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nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
February 15 2013 06:02 GMT
#841
On February 15 2013 09:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Well, MLG, someone should tell them Daisuki shouldn't be playing in the HotS qualifiers

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I would let him play in it. I would however analyze his play afterwards and if it seems questionable, I would give the win to Goswser.
I find it disgusting that he cheated but I don't mind second chances as well.

Whatever MLG decides, people won't be happy with their decision. I hope they know that lol
Root4Root
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
February 15 2013 06:17 GMT
#842
On February 15 2013 15:02 nakedsurfer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 09:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Well, MLG, someone should tell them Daisuki shouldn't be playing in the HotS qualifiers

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I would let him play in it. I would however analyze his play afterwards and if it seems questionable, I would give the win to Goswser.
I find it disgusting that he cheated but I don't mind second chances as well.

Whatever MLG decides, people won't be happy with their decision. I hope they know that lol

If it were an open bracket sort of thing I would agree with you. But since it's an invitational I think not inviting him to play seems pretty fair... More than letting him play and then not awarding him the win if it seems suspicious.
all's fair in love and melodies
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 15 2013 06:27 GMT
#843
On February 15 2013 15:02 nakedsurfer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 09:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Well, MLG, someone should tell them Daisuki shouldn't be playing in the HotS qualifiers

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I would let him play in it. I would however analyze his play afterwards and if it seems questionable, I would give the win to Goswser.
I find it disgusting that he cheated but I don't mind second chances as well.

Whatever MLG decides, people won't be happy with their decision. I hope they know that lol


Although I am for second chances as well. But I think for this case, it is just too soon. I am not sure what the 'appropriate' time for it. But right after the incident just doesn't sit well with me.
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
February 15 2013 07:12 GMT
#844
this looks pretty conclusive to me
Vesky
Profile Joined January 2013
United States857 Posts
February 15 2013 09:48 GMT
#845
On February 15 2013 15:02 nakedsurfer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 09:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Well, MLG, someone should tell them Daisuki shouldn't be playing in the HotS qualifiers

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I would let him play in it. I would however analyze his play afterwards and if it seems questionable, I would give the win to Goswser.
I find it disgusting that he cheated but I don't mind second chances as well.

Whatever MLG decides, people won't be happy with their decision. I hope they know that lol


I don't think most people are actually worried about him hacking in a tournament.

It just seems like allowing him to participate right after he was caught map hacking (ladder or not) isn't right. Daisuki should be punished, he seemed absolutely remorseless. He should get a mandatory vacation from tournaments, maybe it will give him a different perspective on hacking.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 09:56:33
February 15 2013 09:56 GMT
#846
i hope mlg will do the right thing here. it would set a sad precedence if a guy who hacked on ladder for money against a lot of the same people who actually watch mlg's tournament is allowed to play in them.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 15 2013 09:58 GMT
#847
MLG has invited cheaters before, they don't care really.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 15 2013 09:58 GMT
#848
true that.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
February 15 2013 10:45 GMT
#849
If he hacked to get his skill to the level where MLG invited him then surely he is being rewarded for hacking and taking up a spot of someone who actually deserves it.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 15 2013 12:40 GMT
#850
On February 15 2013 19:45 aka_star wrote:
If he hacked to get his skill to the level where MLG invited him then surely he is being rewarded for hacking and taking up a spot of someone who actually deserves it.

Well, he didn't.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
February 15 2013 12:46 GMT
#851
Wasn't wcs usa offline?
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
February 15 2013 12:51 GMT
#852
No forgiveness for hackers. I hate that the "community" just lets shit slide always. Reasons, explanations, excuses don't matter.
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
February 15 2013 13:06 GMT
#853
On February 15 2013 14:41 TigerKarl wrote:
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On February 15 2013 13:50 pigmanbear wrote:
I continue to support Daisuki. I've watched him play enough to know that he is no Spades even if he did wrong here on ladder. OP says how his only account he streams on is low-GM, but in the past (for a couple years) he regularly streamed games from his top-8 GM account that often was at #1.

A shame it had to come to this, but I hope cooler minds will prevail: Ladder and real tournaments are two different things and Daisuki has already shown what a good player he is.

Thanks for your streaming Daisuki, my Zerg play in SC2 (I mained Zerg from release until maybe four months ago) benefited so much from your stream. Fighting!

You've been corrupted by a corruptor. Shame on you sir, please increase your morality to an adult level, instead of supporting proven cheaters.

What does that even mean, "corrupted by a corruptor?" Not sure what this "sir" and "adult" stuff is other than a sure indicator that you're probably very young. Morality is not some objective thing that you "increase."
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
February 15 2013 13:19 GMT
#854
Where's TT1 when you need him! Get him on the case!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
February 15 2013 13:22 GMT
#855
On February 15 2013 22:19 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Where's TT1 when you need him! Get him on the case!

I have far more respect for Daisuku than TT1. TT1 cheated in games that really count, not ladder BS for a week.
YumYumGranola
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada346 Posts
February 15 2013 14:00 GMT
#856
Of course MLG is going to invite daisuki. He's infamous now, chances are his matches will be some of the most viewed of the tournament.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
February 15 2013 14:03 GMT
#857
If MLG doesn't care, then I personally respect that. If I was concerned enough I would e-mail MLG or something, otherwise whatever.
Toss.Pro-
Profile Joined August 2010
83 Posts
February 15 2013 14:15 GMT
#858
On February 15 2013 22:22 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 22:19 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Where's TT1 when you need him! Get him on the case!

I have far more respect for Daisuku than TT1. TT1 cheated in games that really count, not ladder BS for a week.

He said two weeks right? That is assuming we trust him, because he does really seem like a trustworthy kind of guy. His cheating did matter:

1. He wasted other peoples time while they were training.
2. Ladder is a reflection of invites and such. Sponsors can also come from ladder ranking. His hacking directly and indirectly lent him monetary value.

I don't like him being in MLG, and I hope that they do something about it.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 14:42:40
February 15 2013 14:24 GMT
#859
quote from NITRIX rep:
He commented that used in other accounts to see the difference in those who use and do not use


clearly he is trying to bullshit his sponsor to save his ass.
edit: or the sponsor is bullshitting me.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 14:33:58
February 15 2013 14:31 GMT
#860
On February 15 2013 23:15 Toss.Pro- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 22:22 pigmanbear wrote:
On February 15 2013 22:19 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Where's TT1 when you need him! Get him on the case!

I have far more respect for Daisuku than TT1. TT1 cheated in games that really count, not ladder BS for a week.

He said two weeks right? That is assuming we trust him, because he does really seem like a trustworthy kind of guy. His cheating did matter:

1. He wasted other peoples time while they were training.
2. Ladder is a reflection of invites and such. Sponsors can also come from ladder ranking. His hacking directly and indirectly lent him monetary value.

I don't like him being in MLG, and I hope that they do something about it.

Nobody denies that cheating on ladder is immoral. But your second point doesn't have much weight: There aren't going to be tournament invites based on ladder ranking in the final month of WoL's real existence. It sounds to me like NITRIX had some crazy demand that daisuki get more accounts into GM to promote their brand (this has always been their thing) and he cheated to not lose the sponsorship. I believe him when he talks about physical problems he was having after WCG. It's the intersection of an immature business decision and an even more immature, unsportsmanlike decision by daisuki. But it's just ladder, and at the end of a mostly dead game, no less.
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