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On February 10 2013 04:28 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 03:25 Integra wrote:On February 10 2013 03:03 EtherealDeath wrote:On February 10 2013 02:50 HTOMario wrote:On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again! You made the decision, you hacked. I'm sorry but I don't condone you ruining so many players ladder experience or taking away their time from decent practice. I don't think you should be allowed in any more tournaments. Once a hacker... I have 0 respect for people who tried to cheat their way. Well as Glon said, if (hypothetically) for some reason he was pressured into this by sponsors (for whatever hypothetical reason) and could produce lots of direct evidence for this, then I personally could understand it (as Glon said he would as well). But all that is quite hypothetical, and I somehow doubt it's the case. SO this is it then? Every time someone hacks they blame outside factors, oh no it was the sponsors, no it was my parents, no it was my friends. No one hacks out of free will, there is always something behind the decision, may it be fatigue, that they aren't able to perform good enough or that they only need one more win to make that magical placement. The circumstances doesn't matter, if you can't make it without cheating and you risk losing your sponsors then you aren't good enough and you are cheating other people that are good enough without cheating and scheming. Perhaps I didn't properly communicate how high the extremely high level of proof, and even subtle suggestions if not outright of using illegitimate means would have to be, and I assume Glon had somewhat of a similar view. And this hypothetical I imagine would be very very rarely be met. I am curious as to why Daisuki thinks it wasn't his decision though.
It's called an excuse, which I tried to demonstrate in the post you quoted, it's never their fault and they always direct the blame unto something else.
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he's going to be forgiven eventually but he will have to step off the scene for a while, like a year or so
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Thanks going through this process.
My favorite line was "I spread the word to a group of GM players that if they hit a NITRIXeDRINK account on ladder, they should do unorthodox builds or cheeses so that we can see his reactions."
Hell yes, community action 
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I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win.
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On February 10 2013 04:56 Wingblade wrote:
I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win.
Stop spewing ignorant bullshit. Stephano never explicitly or implicitly mentioned anything to do with pedophilia. And you conveniently forget that Stephano won a ton of tournaments both online and offline against the best players in the world, that includes european foreigners and koreans too.
"Selective bias for the win" right back at you bro.
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On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!
So this implies that your sponsors made you do it, or your incentives was based on your ladder rank? If so this is almost as bad a reflection on NITRIX as on daisuki.
This is pure speculation of course: He was offered X incentive to get the account NITRIXeDRINK to number 1 on ladder and realized he couldn't do it any more.
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I'd say give this guy the Ma Jae Yoon treatment.
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On February 10 2013 05:07 Xiphos wrote:
I'd say give this guy the Ma Jae Yoon treatment.
You never know man, sometimes people can change, look at DIMAGA, HayprO etc. The fact that he is quick to shift the blame to some unspecified third party (without confirming or debunking the speculation as regards his sponsors) yet doesn't bring any explicit evidence as to why he was "forced" and how it "wasn't his decision"... yeah pretty bad / fishy attitude.
But lol I would rather you didn't mention Ma Bonjwa in the same sentence as this guy, it's not like Daisuki ever won any starleagues or major tournaments at all.
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On February 10 2013 05:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 04:56 Wingblade wrote:
I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win. Stop spewing ignorant bullshit. Stephano never explicitly or implicitly mentioned anything to do with pedophilia. And you conveniently forget that Stephano won a ton of tournaments both online and offline against the best players in the world, that includes european foreigners and koreans too. "Selective bias for the win" right back at you bro.
So if Stephano didn't say anything like that why did EG suspend him for one month? Obviously they begged to differ.
And apparently winning a bunch of tournaments excuses Stephano for getting arrested??? I guess Daisuki should be instantly forgiven since he proved himself to be the second best player in USA then right?
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seriously hes claiming the sponsors made him do it? that's ridiculous. realistically they probably offered him incentives for having high ranking accounts. He most likely chose to do it himself. and even if he didn't he still could have just turned down his sponsorship and backed out. can you imagine a professional athletes saying "my sponsor made me take steroids"
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When I think of foreigner pro I think of stephano or Naniwa, not day suck ie so he should retire for a year or two
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On February 10 2013 05:15 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 05:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 10 2013 04:56 Wingblade wrote:
I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win. Stop spewing ignorant bullshit. Stephano never explicitly or implicitly mentioned anything to do with pedophilia. And you conveniently forget that Stephano won a ton of tournaments both online and offline against the best players in the world, that includes european foreigners and koreans too. "Selective bias for the win" right back at you bro. So if Stephano didn't say anything like that why did EG suspend him for one month? Obviously they begged to differ. And apparently winning a bunch of tournaments excuses Stephano for getting arrested??? I guess Daisuki should be instantly forgiven since he proved himself to be the second best player in USA then right?
You're making yourself look bad. I recommend you stop posting.
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On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!
The only thing you're sorry for is getting caught. You're blaming your old age (you're only 23) for not having a chance of succeeding, but apparently you can't make your own decision in cheating? YOU decided to cheat because YOU thought that this was a "worthwhile venture", whatever the hell that means.
And no, you did not learn it the hard way. The hard way would be completely banning you from the community (including your stream) and any future events for at least a year or two, which really is what should be done. Letting hackers continue on as if nothing had happened after a light slap on the wrist will further encourage people to use hacks.
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On February 10 2013 05:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 04:56 Wingblade wrote:
I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win. Stop spewing ignorant bullshit. Stephano never explicitly or implicitly mentioned anything to do with pedophilia. And you conveniently forget that Stephano won a ton of tournaments both online and offline against the best players in the world, that includes european foreigners and koreans too. "Selective bias for the win" right back at you bro.
http://i.imgur.com/tfo0c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sGxUY.jpg
Also, being successfull in a video game doesn't mean that you do whatever you want in real life.
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On February 10 2013 05:15 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 05:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 10 2013 04:56 Wingblade wrote:
I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win. Stop spewing ignorant bullshit. Stephano never explicitly or implicitly mentioned anything to do with pedophilia. And you conveniently forget that Stephano won a ton of tournaments both online and offline against the best players in the world, that includes european foreigners and koreans too. "Selective bias for the win" right back at you bro. So if Stephano didn't say anything like that why did EG suspend him for one month? Obviously they begged to differ. And apparently winning a bunch of tournaments excuses Stephano for getting arrested??? I guess Daisuki should be instantly forgiven since he proved himself to be the second best player in USA then right?
Stephano was suspended for making inappropriate comments that can be misunderstood, said misunderstanding being potentially damaging to both his career and EG as an organization. This is because people read "abuse" and ASSUMED it was sexual abuse, even though Stephano never made any other implicit or explicit remarks that would reveal that to be the case. I'm pretty sure if he did sexually abuse a minor the consequences would've been significantly more severe. But that wasn't actually the case, it was just the drama-hungry community of hyperactive kiddies who only read what they WANT to read, not what is actually written, that believed and propagated this lie.
I never said anything about him being arrested.
In fact I don't even know what your argument is, Stephano never cheated on ladder or otherwise, why you would compare him to Daisuki in the first place is pretty dumb on all levels.
On February 10 2013 05:22 MaxQT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 05:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 10 2013 04:56 Wingblade wrote:
I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win. Stop spewing ignorant bullshit. Stephano never explicitly or implicitly mentioned anything to do with pedophilia. And you conveniently forget that Stephano won a ton of tournaments both online and offline against the best players in the world, that includes european foreigners and koreans too. "Selective bias for the win" right back at you bro. http://i.imgur.com/tfo0c.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/sGxUY.jpgAlso, being successfull in a video game doesn't mean that you do whatever you want in real life.
Again, that in and of itself does not actually mean that he did that. It might have been a joke, it might have been some other form of abuse, the bottom line is that if he actually raped a kiddie he would've faced serious charges. Instead he got laid off for a month for an inappropriate comment. That's all.
And I'm not saying he can do whatever he wants in real life, I'm saying comparing a ladder cheater to one of the very top personalities and most prolific professional players in SC2 is absurd.
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On February 10 2013 05:15 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 05:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 10 2013 04:56 Wingblade wrote:
I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win. Stop spewing ignorant bullshit. Stephano never explicitly or implicitly mentioned anything to do with pedophilia. And you conveniently forget that Stephano won a ton of tournaments both online and offline against the best players in the world, that includes european foreigners and koreans too. "Selective bias for the win" right back at you bro. So if Stephano didn't say anything like that why did EG suspend him for one month? Obviously they begged to differ. And apparently winning a bunch of tournaments excuses Stephano for getting arrested??? I guess Daisuki should be instantly forgiven since he proved himself to be the second best player in USA then right?
Wow, you are really dumb. Stephano getting ARRESTED wasn't a big deal, it was just staying the night in a cell to sleep it off. Not an uncommon occurrence and not one people should really hold against him.
Making pedophilia jokes is also not the same as cheating.
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On February 10 2013 05:20 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 05:15 Wingblade wrote:On February 10 2013 05:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 10 2013 04:56 Wingblade wrote:
I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win. Stop spewing ignorant bullshit. Stephano never explicitly or implicitly mentioned anything to do with pedophilia. And you conveniently forget that Stephano won a ton of tournaments both online and offline against the best players in the world, that includes european foreigners and koreans too. "Selective bias for the win" right back at you bro. So if Stephano didn't say anything like that why did EG suspend him for one month? Obviously they begged to differ. And apparently winning a bunch of tournaments excuses Stephano for getting arrested??? I guess Daisuki should be instantly forgiven since he proved himself to be the second best player in USA then right? You're making yourself look bad. I recommend you stop posting.
Yea I guess posting my opinion and pointing out the bias of this community is really bad. Typical.
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On February 10 2013 05:23 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 05:20 Zenbrez wrote:On February 10 2013 05:15 Wingblade wrote:On February 10 2013 05:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 10 2013 04:56 Wingblade wrote:
I'm impressed anyone even knew he was the USA runner-up considering how much people love their pitchforks. Unless of course it's real legal trouble instead of map hacking on a couple of smurfs.
Stephano gets arrested, makes pedophilia comments on his stream = most popular foreigner.
Daisuki map hacks on a couple of smurf accounts = OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE
Selective bias for the win. Stop spewing ignorant bullshit. Stephano never explicitly or implicitly mentioned anything to do with pedophilia. And you conveniently forget that Stephano won a ton of tournaments both online and offline against the best players in the world, that includes european foreigners and koreans too. "Selective bias for the win" right back at you bro. So if Stephano didn't say anything like that why did EG suspend him for one month? Obviously they begged to differ. And apparently winning a bunch of tournaments excuses Stephano for getting arrested??? I guess Daisuki should be instantly forgiven since he proved himself to be the second best player in USA then right? You're making yourself look bad. I recommend you stop posting. Yea I guess posting my opinion and pointing out the bias of this community is really bad. Typical.
Hard facts that disregard your personal assumptions and implications = bias?
ROFL GG I am done here. Learn to argue or stop trolling.
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On February 10 2013 05:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 05:07 Xiphos wrote:
I'd say give this guy the Ma Jae Yoon treatment. You never know man, sometimes people can change, look at DIMAGA, HayprO etc. The fact that he is quick to shift the blame to some unspecified third party (without confirming or debunking the speculation as regards his sponsors) yet doesn't bring any explicit evidence as to why he was "forced" and how it "wasn't his decision"... yeah pretty bad / fishy attitude. But lol I would rather you didn't mention Ma Bonjwa in the same sentence as this guy, it's not like Daisuki ever won any starleagues or major tournaments at all.
Just to clarify, I'm fairly certain HayprO never cheated, he got caught with a program on during a match, but wasn't using it to cheat. If I'm wrong someone feel free to correct me, I don't quite remember exactly what happened.
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wingblade keep digging that hole
Daisuki got owned by karma he constantly trash talked on ladder now look ELohEL..
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