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Pizzaboy17
Profile Joined August 2011
United States14 Posts
February 22 2013 02:28 GMT
#441
Hmm, if they don't respond and just leave it locked I'll make a new one!
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
February 22 2013 02:37 GMT
#442
On February 22 2013 11:25 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 09:01 korona wrote:
@Lonyo & others: Remember to mention here if you did get favorable answers from the support regarding your requests. Should soon open my ticket once again after waiting one week to see if 2.0.4 patch would have given more info about the situation (it did not)...

There is interesting thread on US forums regarding this: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7923034397
It also has posts from legal perspective such as: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7923034397?page=3#58

Wonder how they choose forum MVP:s there... Two of such try to claim that the issue is nonsense and people should stop posting... Should lose their MVP status for such posts, but of course it unlikely happens as they are on Blizzard's side...

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 09:27 Pizzaboy17 wrote:
Hey thanks for linking my post in TL! I was absolutely astonished, how rude the first MVP that posted was. I am trying to get a blizzard response to my post so please post your thoughts in that thread as well.

Interesting. Blizzard just locked that thread without writing anything in the end. Interesting to see if they still respond to it.

It's against forum rules to post "Dear Blizzard..." or any direct "open letter" and petitions to Blizzard and staff.
The ticket system is there for a reason.
SEn Fanclub: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=170834
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 02:39:59
February 22 2013 02:37 GMT
#443
On February 22 2013 11:28 Pizzaboy17 wrote:
Hmm, if they don't respond and just leave it locked I'll make a new one!

Just be patient & wait some time so you don't risk a forum ban. I would say the content of the second post makes that thread powerful. If they are going to respond to it, they likely need some preparation time.

On February 22 2013 11:37 Hoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 11:25 korona wrote:
On February 22 2013 09:01 korona wrote:
@Lonyo & others: Remember to mention here if you did get favorable answers from the support regarding your requests. Should soon open my ticket once again after waiting one week to see if 2.0.4 patch would have given more info about the situation (it did not)...

There is interesting thread on US forums regarding this: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7923034397
It also has posts from legal perspective such as: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7923034397?page=3#58

Wonder how they choose forum MVP:s there... Two of such try to claim that the issue is nonsense and people should stop posting... Should lose their MVP status for such posts, but of course it unlikely happens as they are on Blizzard's side...

On February 22 2013 09:27 Pizzaboy17 wrote:
Hey thanks for linking my post in TL! I was absolutely astonished, how rude the first MVP that posted was. I am trying to get a blizzard response to my post so please post your thoughts in that thread as well.

Interesting. Blizzard just locked that thread without writing anything in the end. Interesting to see if they still respond to it.

It's against forum rules to post "Dear Blizzard..." or any direct "open letter" and petitions to Blizzard and staff.
The ticket system is there for a reason.

Blizzard support has suggested to discuss the matter on their public forums to many, when they have denied splitting the licenses.
Pizzaboy17
Profile Joined August 2011
United States14 Posts
February 22 2013 02:38 GMT
#444
I was told by the customer service representatives that they could do nothing and to do that instead.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 03:18:05
February 22 2013 02:42 GMT
#445
Wow no shit, my TW license got removed from my B.net account, I now have just a single SC2 account registered. I'm sorry but I don't find this honest in the slightest.
I find it weird that just by having registered my TW license on another Bnet account, I would still have what I paid for (2 accounts with global play, instead of what I have now, only 1). Which would have actually been against their "RealID" policy of one B.net account per IRL identity. So in a sense, I got stripped from one game key for actually binding my own name to my SC2 accounts. Smooth move Blizzard, smooth indeed.

Edit:
On another note, what the hell is the deal with those "MVP" posters on Blizzard's forums? Who the fuck are they? They sound really assholish.
And I understand all the comments (from guys who only bought one license, obviously...) about us just buying multiple region access for the length of time where it was unavailable. Yet that's not at all what we bought. I bought a full WoL game, dammit. What bothers me is that if I had just made another Bnet account (which is free, and very fast), I would still have 2 SC2 games. What the hell is Blizzard supposed to answer to that argument? "Serves you right, retard."?

Edit2: I submitted a "ticket" to the support service. Will let you know how it went. I'll put here my message if it worked :D Maybe if it fails as well, though that would be a shame
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
February 22 2013 02:45 GMT
#446
On February 22 2013 11:37 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 11:28 Pizzaboy17 wrote:
Hmm, if they don't respond and just leave it locked I'll make a new one!

Just be patient & wait some time so you don't risk a forum ban. I would say the content of the second post makes that thread powerful. If they are going to respond to it, they likely need some preparation time.

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 11:37 Hoon wrote:
On February 22 2013 11:25 korona wrote:
On February 22 2013 09:01 korona wrote:
@Lonyo & others: Remember to mention here if you did get favorable answers from the support regarding your requests. Should soon open my ticket once again after waiting one week to see if 2.0.4 patch would have given more info about the situation (it did not)...

There is interesting thread on US forums regarding this: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7923034397
It also has posts from legal perspective such as: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7923034397?page=3#58

Wonder how they choose forum MVP:s there... Two of such try to claim that the issue is nonsense and people should stop posting... Should lose their MVP status for such posts, but of course it unlikely happens as they are on Blizzard's side...

On February 22 2013 09:27 Pizzaboy17 wrote:
Hey thanks for linking my post in TL! I was absolutely astonished, how rude the first MVP that posted was. I am trying to get a blizzard response to my post so please post your thoughts in that thread as well.

Interesting. Blizzard just locked that thread without writing anything in the end. Interesting to see if they still respond to it.

It's against forum rules to post "Dear Blizzard..." or any direct "open letter" and petitions to Blizzard and staff.
The ticket system is there for a reason.

Blizzard support has suggested to discuss the matter on their public forums to many, when they have denied splitting the licenses.

Discuss the matter on their forums doesn't mean making a huge thread titled "Dear SC2 Devs, etcetc". It's clearly an open letter to Blizzard, not a discussion thread.
SEn Fanclub: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=170834
Pizzaboy17
Profile Joined August 2011
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 02:50:49
February 22 2013 02:47 GMT
#447
Please explain what I could have done better, I'm all ears.
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 13:24:43
February 22 2013 13:21 GMT
#448
On February 22 2013 11:42 ZenithM wrote:
Wow no shit, my TW license got removed from my B.net account, I now have just a single SC2 account registered. I'm sorry but I don't find this honest in the slightest.
I find it weird that just by having registered my TW license on another Bnet account, I would still have what I paid for (2 accounts with global play, instead of what I have now, only 1). Which would have actually been against their "RealID" policy of one B.net account per IRL identity. So in a sense, I got stripped from one game key for actually binding my own name to my SC2 accounts. Smooth move Blizzard, smooth indeed.

Edit:
On another note, what the hell is the deal with those "MVP" posters on Blizzard's forums? Who the fuck are they? They sound really assholish.
And I understand all the comments (from guys who only bought one license, obviously...) about us just buying multiple region access for the length of time where it was unavailable. Yet that's not at all what we bought. I bought a full WoL game, dammit. What bothers me is that if I had just made another Bnet account (which is free, and very fast), I would still have 2 SC2 games. What the hell is Blizzard supposed to answer to that argument? "Serves you right, retard."?

Edit2: I submitted a "ticket" to the support service. Will let you know how it went. I'll put here my message if it worked :D Maybe if it fails as well, though that would be a shame

I owned 3 licenses on my account, now I only have one but I don't see it as a problem at all because I still have access to all the servers that I paid for. Why does this matter so much to people? I bought the extra licenses to gain access to other servers, and that's just what I got back then, and that's just what I still have.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2581 Posts
February 22 2013 13:31 GMT
#449
Situation before: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on with my e-mail address, I have one account on each server.

Situation now: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on - and also every other server in the world - with my e-mail address. I have one account on each server.

An outrage!
The frumious Bandersnatch
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 22 2013 13:37 GMT
#450
On February 22 2013 22:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Situation before: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on with my e-mail address, I have one account on each server.

Situation now: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on - and also every other server in the world - with my e-mail address. I have one account on each server.

An outrage!


2 cd-keys = 2 global play accounts, it is very simple.

You have the option of being ok with things being taken from you, or products that you paid for simply disappearing. These are your choices, and no one is judging you.

Please return the favor and don't judge us for the 'outrageous' demand of feeling 'entitled' to something we paid for
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
February 22 2013 13:40 GMT
#451
On February 22 2013 22:37 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 22:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Situation before: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on with my e-mail address, I have one account on each server.

Situation now: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on - and also every other server in the world - with my e-mail address. I have one account on each server.

An outrage!


2 cd-keys = 2 global play accounts, it is very simple.

You have the option of being ok with things being taken from you, or products that you paid for simply disappearing. These are your choices, and no one is judging you.

Please return the favor and don't judge us for the 'outrageous' demand of feeling 'entitled' to something we paid for


In place of what they "took" they gave you something of equal or greater value, Global Play. What's the problem?
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
February 22 2013 13:42 GMT
#452
i have multiple copies and think they should do NOTHING

you bought it they deliver, why you guys expect they own us something ? nonono its fine !
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 13:46:19
February 22 2013 13:43 GMT
#453
On February 22 2013 22:40 Firkraag8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 22:37 n0ise wrote:
On February 22 2013 22:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Situation before: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on with my e-mail address, I have one account on each server.

Situation now: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on - and also every other server in the world - with my e-mail address. I have one account on each server.

An outrage!


2 cd-keys = 2 global play accounts, it is very simple.

You have the option of being ok with things being taken from you, or products that you paid for simply disappearing. These are your choices, and no one is judging you.

Please return the favor and don't judge us for the 'outrageous' demand of feeling 'entitled' to something we paid for


In place of what they "took" they gave you something of equal or greater value, Global Play. What's the problem?


So it's okay for some people to pay for it, while others get it for free?

It wasn't an exchange. We didn't give them our other accounts for global play. They gave global play to everyone, and removed any alternate accounts for no apparent reason.
Cereal
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
February 22 2013 13:49 GMT
#454
On February 22 2013 22:43 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 22:40 Firkraag8 wrote:
On February 22 2013 22:37 n0ise wrote:
On February 22 2013 22:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Situation before: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on with my e-mail address, I have one account on each server.

Situation now: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on - and also every other server in the world - with my e-mail address. I have one account on each server.

An outrage!


2 cd-keys = 2 global play accounts, it is very simple.

You have the option of being ok with things being taken from you, or products that you paid for simply disappearing. These are your choices, and no one is judging you.

Please return the favor and don't judge us for the 'outrageous' demand of feeling 'entitled' to something we paid for


In place of what they "took" they gave you something of equal or greater value, Global Play. What's the problem?


So it's okay for some people to pay for it, while others get it for free?

It was an exchange. We didn't give them our other accounts for global play. They gave global play to everyone, and removed any alternate accounts for no apparent reason.


Of course it's OK, we all paid for the extra licenses knowing what it would buy us and got exactly what we paid for. And with Global Play nothing has really changed for us, except for the fact that now we can logon to even more servers than before, which is great!

If anything we should be happy for those who now get it for free, not act like children about it.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 14:03:39
February 22 2013 13:55 GMT
#455
On February 22 2013 22:49 Firkraag8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 22:43 InfCereal wrote:
On February 22 2013 22:40 Firkraag8 wrote:
On February 22 2013 22:37 n0ise wrote:
On February 22 2013 22:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Situation before: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on with my e-mail address, I have one account on each server.

Situation now: I can log on to every server I paid for a license on - and also every other server in the world - with my e-mail address. I have one account on each server.

An outrage!


2 cd-keys = 2 global play accounts, it is very simple.

You have the option of being ok with things being taken from you, or products that you paid for simply disappearing. These are your choices, and no one is judging you.

Please return the favor and don't judge us for the 'outrageous' demand of feeling 'entitled' to something we paid for


In place of what they "took" they gave you something of equal or greater value, Global Play. What's the problem?


So it's okay for some people to pay for it, while others get it for free?

It was an exchange. We didn't give them our other accounts for global play. They gave global play to everyone, and removed any alternate accounts for no apparent reason.


Of course it's OK, we all paid for the extra licenses knowing what it would buy us and got exactly what we paid for. And with Global Play nothing has really changed for us, except for the fact that now we can logon to even more servers than before, which is great!

If anything we should be happy for those who now get it for free, not act like children about it.


do you understand this has nothing to do with global play, but with some cd-keys working properly (multiple accounts), while others are disappearing?

every other page this needs to be explained like to a 5y.o., so it's natural that we act like children

LE: Also, let's not act like we're stealing from charity here. We wouldn't even have this discussion if the illustrious minds of Blizzard Inc. would have discovered the fantastic technology of Global Play back in 2009/10.

We do have the discussion because they were greedy and forced basically every team + any one who had friends / wanted to play on another server to buy extra licenses. A lot of people took the bait, gave in and paid Blizzard for this marvelous service.

Is it so insane to ask that those people don't get screwed over now and get to actually hold on to the cd-keys that they paid for? Is it such a tragedy for Blizzard? I don't understand.
gawk
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany310 Posts
February 22 2013 14:15 GMT
#456
Don't those living in the EU have the right to re-sell licenses (even if tos/eula say otherwise)?
If yes then I should be able to let Blizzard move 1 of my 2 licenses to another account (what seems to be possible in US but not EU).

The strange thing is that Blizzard decided to grant global play to accounts, not to licenses.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 14:34:23
February 22 2013 14:28 GMT
#457
On February 22 2013 22:21 Firkraag8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 11:42 ZenithM wrote:
Wow no shit, my TW license got removed from my B.net account, I now have just a single SC2 account registered. I'm sorry but I don't find this honest in the slightest.
I find it weird that just by having registered my TW license on another Bnet account, I would still have what I paid for (2 accounts with global play, instead of what I have now, only 1). Which would have actually been against their "RealID" policy of one B.net account per IRL identity. So in a sense, I got stripped from one game key for actually binding my own name to my SC2 accounts. Smooth move Blizzard, smooth indeed.

Edit:
On another note, what the hell is the deal with those "MVP" posters on Blizzard's forums? Who the fuck are they? They sound really assholish.
And I understand all the comments (from guys who only bought one license, obviously...) about us just buying multiple region access for the length of time where it was unavailable. Yet that's not at all what we bought. I bought a full WoL game, dammit. What bothers me is that if I had just made another Bnet account (which is free, and very fast), I would still have 2 SC2 games. What the hell is Blizzard supposed to answer to that argument? "Serves you right, retard."?

Edit2: I submitted a "ticket" to the support service. Will let you know how it went. I'll put here my message if it worked :D Maybe if it fails as well, though that would be a shame

I owned 3 licenses on my account, now I only have one but I don't see it as a problem at all because I still have access to all the servers that I paid for. Why does this matter so much to people? I bought the extra licenses to gain access to other servers, and that's just what I got back then, and that's just what I still have.

Wouldn't you prefer having 3 full WoL game accounts with global play? That's what you would have if you had registered your 2 other licenses in separate B.net account.
You don't see the difference? You don't see the point?
Well, if I had 2 other accounts, I could, you know, maybe play with 2 of my friends who didn't buy the game, or have one account and ladder ranking per race.
I don't think you really bought 3 SC2 versions if you don't get that.

Edit: Oh man, people really don't understand what I'm saying do they. I'm not arguing that I've been robbed of something. Because that's wrong. If I previously had one EU and one TW licenses, I can still play on those 2, and even play on NA. Cool, right?
NO, because, if I had clicked a dozen times and taken the 5 minutes necessary to create another Bnet account and registered my TW license there (which would have changed NOTHING at all for me in WoL previous setup), I would now have 2 full game accounts with global play, i.e. strictly better (and by a huge margin) than what I have right now. How could I foresee that Blizzard would make global play available, and merge game licenses on the same Bnet account?
Gamer_Girl
Profile Joined February 2013
14 Posts
February 22 2013 14:37 GMT
#458
You don't deserve a free copy. You made the decision to buy 2 copies and you should live by that decision. Blizzard isn't entitled to give you anything.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7291 Posts
February 22 2013 14:39 GMT
#459
On February 22 2013 22:21 Firkraag8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 11:42 ZenithM wrote:
Wow no shit, my TW license got removed from my B.net account, I now have just a single SC2 account registered. I'm sorry but I don't find this honest in the slightest.
I find it weird that just by having registered my TW license on another Bnet account, I would still have what I paid for (2 accounts with global play, instead of what I have now, only 1). Which would have actually been against their "RealID" policy of one B.net account per IRL identity. So in a sense, I got stripped from one game key for actually binding my own name to my SC2 accounts. Smooth move Blizzard, smooth indeed.

Edit:
On another note, what the hell is the deal with those "MVP" posters on Blizzard's forums? Who the fuck are they? They sound really assholish.
And I understand all the comments (from guys who only bought one license, obviously...) about us just buying multiple region access for the length of time where it was unavailable. Yet that's not at all what we bought. I bought a full WoL game, dammit. What bothers me is that if I had just made another Bnet account (which is free, and very fast), I would still have 2 SC2 games. What the hell is Blizzard supposed to answer to that argument? "Serves you right, retard."?

Edit2: I submitted a "ticket" to the support service. Will let you know how it went. I'll put here my message if it worked :D Maybe if it fails as well, though that would be a shame

I owned 3 licenses on my account, now I only have one but I don't see it as a problem at all because I still have access to all the servers that I paid for. Why does this matter so much to people? I bought the extra licenses to gain access to other servers, and that's just what I got back then, and that's just what I still have.



You are dense. People are pissed off because they no longer have separate accounts they paid for. For example, you could have a Terran ladder account, a protoss ladder account, and a zerg ladder account........ Or do whatever the hell you want with them because you bought 3 separate accounts/copies of the game. If you want to give them away or let a friend borrow them you should be able to.

Not understanding buying an account wasnt simply about regional access makes me believe the majority of the people claiming people are complaining for not getting things for free are morons of the highest order. it isnt a difficult concept to grasp.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 22 2013 14:43 GMT
#460
Yep, for one last time, people are not complaining because they're somehow jealous of those who just paid for one SC2 (which is perfectly reasonable) and now have the same global access as them who bought multiple licenses earlier on.
That would be completely childish and pointless. I'm happy that global play is available to everybody.
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