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jayt88
Profile Joined July 2010
Singapore97 Posts
January 25 2013 02:42 GMT
#61
Competition is almost always good, sad to see one source fade away even though I prefer twitch in almost every way. Hopefully twitch doesn't act like a monopoly after this..
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
January 25 2013 02:51 GMT
#62
On January 25 2013 10:43 NPF wrote:
Well I hope the players can get some type of compensation from the company. Hopefully there contract with there adverts comes through and they can pay out there players partially.

Edit:

Show nested quote +

Our anonymous sources close to the situation told us that it was "absolutely true" that Own3d TV would be closing in the next week or so and that they cannot pay the debts they owe and if they liquidate and if advertisers don't pay their streamer contracts that clears them of obligation to pay streamer revenue.


Basically I hope the advertisers pay and Own3d will be forced to obligate their contract. I have no real sympathy for them, or at least pay out all there capital, even if its only 10% of what they owe each individual they should be obligated to do it.


I don't know what the laws are like in their home country, but essentially if they declare bankruptcy, their assets are liquidated and divided among their creditors. But it sounds like they don't have any assets, so I think at most people will be getting cents on the dollar.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
January 25 2013 02:53 GMT
#63
I never really watched/used own3d for a long time anyways.
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BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
January 25 2013 02:56 GMT
#64
A johnny-come-lately that never seemed as polished as twitch to me. Not really surprised they're going under.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 25 2013 02:59 GMT
#65
On January 25 2013 11:56 BoxingKangaroo wrote:
A johnny-come-lately...


You do know that Own3d was the first streaming service dedicated to gaming, right? They may have even been around since before justin.tv, I don't know.
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ineversmile
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States583 Posts
January 25 2013 03:00 GMT
#66
Good riddance. Their stream quality sucks.
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RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
January 25 2013 03:01 GMT
#67
Wow, it seemed so sudden to me, though it seems some aren't. GL to those who were sponsored.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
January 25 2013 04:10 GMT
#68
On January 25 2013 07:46 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 07:42 Zzoram wrote:
Their higher CPM than Twitch turned out to really be too good to be true. I've always liked Twitch better myself, it loaded faster for me in Canada and has a cleaner interface.


Yeah same. Whenever I watched ForGG's stream, it always overlapped without another image for like the first 30 seconds which was annoying. Not sure if that was Own3d or just my computer though...

That seemed to be a problem globally. I don't mean that absolutely everyone I came across complained about it, but I think a lot of people just got used to it.
It wasn't such a big deal unless you were trying to test out the appearance of different quality settings, when it became most vexing!

This is terrible news, partly for competition and partly because it's outrageous that any company could get away with not paying what they owe.
They should be forced to pay everything as soon as they can afford to. If that means the CEO or whoever has to pay it out of their own pocket, that should happen then, even if it must be paid off gradually.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45134 Posts
January 25 2013 04:13 GMT
#69
My feelings and opinions on this:

1. I feel really bad for any streamer who's not getting paid.

2. It was never as good as Twitch.

3. I wonder if a lack of competition for streaming will change anything. Twitch is far-and-away monopolizing this now, right? (I guess they were pretty much #1 beforehand, but now there's not even a relevant second place, right?)
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Traceback
Profile Joined October 2010
United States469 Posts
January 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#70
Always thought they seemed less confidence inspiring than twitch. Just one of my seemingly ever so accurate gut feelings.
Endall
Profile Joined August 2011
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 04:25:35
January 25 2013 04:25 GMT
#71
On January 25 2013 13:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
My feelings and opinions on this:

1. I feel really bad for any streamer who's not getting paid.

2. It was never as good as Twitch.

3. I wonder if a lack of competition for streaming will change anything. Twitch is far-and-away monopolizing this now, right? (I guess they were pretty much #1 beforehand, but now there's not even a relevant second place, right?)


I believe Azubu is putting a stream service together, so lets hope that makes its way outside of Korea and gives Twitch a reason to continue to get better.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12607 Posts
January 25 2013 04:37 GMT
#72
On January 25 2013 11:42 jayt88 wrote:
Competition is almost always good, sad to see one source fade away even though I prefer twitch in almost every way. Hopefully twitch doesn't act like a monopoly after this..

if streaming company is really difficult to establish financially, a monopoly would not be too bad.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
January 25 2013 04:56 GMT
#73
we all saw that coming...
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
January 25 2013 05:06 GMT
#74
On January 25 2013 13:37 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 11:42 jayt88 wrote:
Competition is almost always good, sad to see one source fade away even though I prefer twitch in almost every way. Hopefully twitch doesn't act like a monopoly after this..

if streaming company is really difficult to establish financially, a monopoly would not be too bad.

Creating a streaming company isn't difficult, or expensive. You can stream from your own computer if you want to, and call it a company.

Creating a GOOD streaming service provider with distributed delivery infrastructure and the ability to deliver content to anywhere between 1 and 100,000+ viewers... THAT is difficult, and expensive. Hardware, bandwidth, and competent people (like, say, Gunrun) to make it all work don't come cheap.

That being said, there are still people trying to compete with Google and it's assorted properties, which often hold the top spot. There will always be a place for a contender, and investors into a contender, to make money. But I don't think Twitch will have any serious competition for a while to come - if they ever do. (More likely - a larger company (like a Google or Apple) decides they want to buy rather than develop technology that is in Twitch's portfolio, and then gives Justin a boatload of money for the company.)
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Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
January 25 2013 05:07 GMT
#75
Maybe the government will step in to bail them out.
trGKakarot
Profile Joined October 2011
United States129 Posts
January 25 2013 05:11 GMT
#76
As others have stated in this thread, the only real competition Twitch has is the looming threat of YouTube / Google stepping into a monetized streaming platform.

Twitch is unbearably laggy at times, but otherwise is reasonably a pretty good platform (minus not having streaming apps on PS3/360).
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1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
January 25 2013 05:29 GMT
#77
On January 25 2013 14:07 Fearest wrote:
Maybe the government will step in to bail them out.



and then after they get bailed out, they will sue the govt like ungrateful pigs
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Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
January 25 2013 05:33 GMT
#78
You know what would be really cool? If Twitch.tv stepped up and paid own3d's outstanding debts to progamers in return for them signing contracts with the company. That'd be cool.

Completely unrealistic, but it would be fucking awesome. It'd be the first good news I've seen from an ESPORTS company in a long time.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
January 25 2013 05:37 GMT
#79
Not paying there streamers...yeah that says it all. own3d TV -->>Not gonna be missed TV
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SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
January 25 2013 05:39 GMT
#80
Eh... Dendi was the only player I'd make an exception for and watch on Own3d. Otherwise I'd go out of my way to watch twitch streamers because it always felt like a much better spectator experience.
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