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[Interview] SPL Stars vs EG-TL Round 2 2012-2013 - Page 4

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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
January 20 2013 02:34 GMT
#61
On January 20 2013 11:25 convention wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 09:05 StarVe wrote:
On January 20 2013 08:56 convention wrote:
On January 20 2013 08:37 JJH777 wrote:
Lol at him having a high chance to win the championship. I can't wait for him to get eliminated in the first round.

I think the post above yours was pretty well said. There are 32 people in code S, so you'd expect about an average of 3% chance to win. I think most people would agree that stephano is probably around a 10% chance, which is really high.

I really don't think it's close to 10% but what do I know, don't want to start an argument again, that's been discussed to death.

I wasn't thinking straight when I say most people would agree. Instead I should say something more along the lines, I think it is arguable that stephano is around 10%. The hard part about this estimate is the GSL is a very unique tournament, some people just excel in the GSL and some do poorly. All we can base it on is how well stephano does in foreign tournaments against code S level talent. Of course that plays to stephano's strength of rapid fire games, and he isn't jet lagged. However, stephano has been also doing very well in the proleague. I think it is reasonable (and also generous) to say that we could estimate his chance at about 10%. For an unbiased estimate we'd have to ask that aliguac (sp?) guy. Otherwise you have stephano fanboys, stephano haters, and people like me that just want to see foreigners do well in the GSL giving out lopsided estimates.


10% is a VERY lopsided estimate. You only have 100% to divide among 32 players. Parting and Life have to get the most if you aren't biased. There are several other players that are very clearly above Stephano as well like Leenock, Sniper, Creator. Are you really going to give the top 5 players or so over 50% to win this GSL when we just went a year without ever having a player get a consecutive ro4?
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 20 2013 02:48 GMT
#62
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 20 2013 02:50 GMT
#63
rofl Stephano way too over ambitious with his GSL goals. He should be happy with RO16 I think.
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
January 20 2013 03:00 GMT
#64
If it was still GomTvT, i think it would be a breeze for Stephano.
However, Korean pride might be saved by the fact that almost 50% are Zerg and we all know about Stephanos ZvZ, so chances are he gets kicked out by a Zerg early.

Great interview though.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
January 20 2013 03:08 GMT
#65
Dat hair!
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 20 2013 03:20 GMT
#66
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Novs
Profile Joined September 2010
United States14 Posts
January 20 2013 09:59 GMT
#67
Its kinda silly to debate statistics at this point, it's 5 rounds until a champion. Even at 90% chance to advance every round, that's only 56% chance to win. We'll see how things shape up in the coming weeks.
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
January 20 2013 11:50 GMT
#68
Stephano saying that he is practicing a lot is VERY scary. Looking forward to his Code S games !
twitter@RickyMarou
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 20 2013 12:14 GMT
#69
It's silly to actually think in terms of % who will win the GSL. In 3 years we saw that it's definitely not a matter of favorite. or odds. But it's mostly how much you're prepared, is the bracket fitting you, and your current shape.

Anyway I think it's normal and better for a progamer to have high goal and a lot of confidence, than the opposite. If Stephano manages to improve his ZvZ by a lot, and prepare seriously his matches he probably is an important contender in this season.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 12:19:23
January 20 2013 12:16 GMT
#70
Let's not debate too much about this sentence plz. There may be part of this lost in translation. We could say his aim is the semi finals. I think it's good he shows confidence. You have to have this kind of mentality if you want to be a high competitive player.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
January 20 2013 23:16 GMT
#71
Thanks seeker! I can't believe there was no interview at the end of the game, so weak of proleague.

Really liking Stephano's attitude! That win gave me chills :3
Try another route paperboy.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 20 2013 23:21 GMT
#72
Stephano #1 contender!
GOGO
freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
January 21 2013 02:52 GMT
#73
Haha "realistically semi-finals is my goal"? Stephano you're confident to the point where it's blatantly arrogant.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#74
That's right Stephano, AIM HIGH!

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he's going to get 3rd in his ro16 group though xD
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
January 21 2013 03:42 GMT
#75
On January 21 2013 11:52 freeshooter wrote:
Haha "realistically semi-finals is my goal"? Stephano you're confident to the point where it's blatantly arrogant.

so he shouldn't think he can win? that would be a horrible attitude for any competitor.
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
January 21 2013 03:46 GMT
#76
On January 20 2013 12:00 Morfildur wrote:
If it was still GomTvT, i think it would be a breeze for Stephano.
However, Korean pride might be saved by the fact that almost 50% are Zerg and we all know about Stephanos ZvZ, so chances are he gets kicked out by a Zerg early.

Great interview though.



Says someone who doesnt know the korean community well enough. Well done genius. Its actually kinda hilarious

to see such comments on TL and other english websites but never on the korean community. I wonder why
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 21 2013 03:48 GMT
#77
On January 21 2013 11:52 freeshooter wrote:
Haha "realistically semi-finals is my goal"? Stephano you're confident to the point where it's blatantly arrogant.

To have the attitude of a winner is good, all champions should have that attitude. A lot of other competitors fail where Stephano succeeds and that partly has to do with his attitude.
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 09:47:58
January 21 2013 09:38 GMT
#78
On January 21 2013 12:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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On January 21 2013 11:52 freeshooter wrote:
Haha "realistically semi-finals is my goal"? Stephano you're confident to the point where it's blatantly arrogant.

To have the attitude of a winner is good, all champions should have that attitude. A lot of other competitors fail where Stephano succeeds and that partly has to do with his attitude.

Stephano only has one weakness and that is to have a bad attitude, sometimes. Like last week in Proleague he bragged he could all-kill Samsung, and instead went down in the first match to Sola, playing his first PL game. It is good to be confident, but being too cocky has a way of catching up with you.

Now he says he has a high chance of winning GSL, it's just pure cockiness. Even the best Koreans would not and should not make that claim, let alone Stephano whose form has dipped below tier 1 lately. Plus he says he doesn't like zvz and doesn't practice it enough. How far are you going to get in code S with this attitude? Whatever race you are, your zerg matchup is the most important one to master in GSL.

I'd love to see Stephano take a GSL championship however unlikely that is, but for that to happen, he will need to get a better attitude or he will be on a train back to France faster than you can say "choo choo."
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