EPTDestiny: Own3d paying streamers late, not fulfilling contr…
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illuminated
Canada3 Posts
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KimJongIlJr
Korea (North)61 Posts
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ParkwayDrive
United States328 Posts
hes not good at games and now hes desperate for money. this kid is sad and you are all sadder for feeding him User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On January 19 2013 11:53 ParkwayDrive wrote: stop feeding destiny the troll. he could easily go to twitch if he wanted. hes not good at games and now hes desperate for money. this kid is sad and you are all sadder for feeding him Yes because not being paid for work is getting trolled. No, that's called bullshit. You like working so much for free then please go do my job for me and I'll accept the paycheck. | ||
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ParkwayDrive
United States328 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On January 19 2013 11:53 ParkwayDrive wrote: stop feeding destiny the troll. he could easily go to twitch if he wanted. hes not good at games and now hes desperate for money. this kid is sad and you are all sadder for feeding him This sort of post really is not needed here. A lot of people dislike Destiny, hell, even I do not like him. But this is not about Destiny specifically, this is about Own3d and the financial troubles that seem to stem from them. Also, when you have kids, a family, and your income is not the greatest in the world, it makes it much more difficult to simply go to X or Y when Z supposedly pays better. Unfortnately, when Z does not actually fall through with their commitments, and your family can actually get hurt over it, of course you will speak out. So drop the attitude and pay attention to what actually matters here (and if you are into Esports at all, this should matter a whole lot). | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On January 19 2013 12:02 ParkwayDrive wrote: he plays games at a low level in front of a young audience with nothing better to do. how is that work and deserving of money? you're an embarrassment to those of us who legitimately dislike him. | ||
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ParkwayDrive
United States328 Posts
On January 19 2013 12:09 Nilrem wrote: This sort of post really is not needed here. A lot of people dislike Destiny, hell, even I do not like him. But this is not about Destiny specifically, this is about Own3d and the financial troubles that seem to stem from them. Also, when you have kids, a family, and your income is not the greatest in the world, it makes it much more difficult to simply go to X or Y when Z supposedly pays better. Unfortnately, when Z does not actually fall through with their commitments, and your family can actually get hurt over it, of course you will speak out. So drop the attitude and pay attention to what actually matters here (and if you are into Esports at all, this should matter a whole lot). then the title of the thread should be changed | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On January 19 2013 12:10 dAPhREAk wrote: you're an embarrassment to those of us who legitimately dislike him. Agreed. Most people here hate Destiny, but we see what own3d is doing and it's wrong. | ||
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Kooun
Canada260 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On January 19 2013 12:12 ParkwayDrive wrote: then the title of the thread should be changed Or, instead of being trigger happy in attacking Destiny, you focus on the real implications of the situation. It needs a Mod to change the title anyway, and the Op even asked for it to be changed. Regardless, Destiny brought all of this into the light (more so than it has been done in the past), and the primary focus was on his post. You accuse him of being a troll and yet you are the one coming off as one... sigh. | ||
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ParkwayDrive
United States328 Posts
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
On January 19 2013 12:12 ParkwayDrive wrote: then the title of the thread should be changed The OP has quotes nine other notable figures weighing in with similar grievances, and there are more in the thread, and there is also a request to change the title in the OP to "Own3d not paying it's streamers?" You should at least read the OP before posting in the thread. That way you can avoid shoving your foot in your mouth up to the knee, instead of saying inane comments like "stop feeding the destiny troll", which is completely irrelevant to the actual issue at hand. | ||
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LOcDowN
United States1015 Posts
On January 19 2013 12:24 ParkwayDrive wrote: yes its sad that own3d isnt paying all the real talent that uses them but cmon we play video games, lets all be thankful and not be money whores for a change. things will work out when you do stuff you love. and second i think its in the best interest for all eports if destiny disappeared and i felt like this was a moment to voice my opinion on that. thank you for your time. It's not about being money whores or about playing a video game. Money owed should be money paid. It's straight forward. | ||
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
On January 19 2013 12:24 ParkwayDrive wrote: yes its sad that own3d isnt paying all the real talent that uses them but cmon we play video games, lets all be thankful and not be money whores for a change. things will work out when you do stuff you love. and second i think its in the best interest for all eports if destiny disappeared and i felt like this was a moment to voice my opinion on that. thank you for your time. So why does playing video game make us not entitled to the same amount of money that other streamer gets? This is not being money whore, it getting back the money you deserved and were promised. If destiny demanded more money from streaming then that different story but he was denied money he was promised and there are also evidence of other people having the same problem. Things will not work out if you do the stuff you love because this is evidence of exactly what can happen. You can have your own opinion on destiny but saying that we dont deserved the money we were promised because it just from video game is dumb. | ||
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Spiffeh
United States830 Posts
People's brains cease to function at the mention of Destiny. As if they were robots unplugged from their power source, they fidget, sparks fly, and the lights go out. Real conversation ceases and in its stead nonconstructive hate emanates. | ||
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Reedy
United Kingdom185 Posts
On January 19 2013 07:08 Zorkmid wrote: John Clark just hit the nail on the head in ChanmanV's show. There isn't enough money flowing through eSports for a large number of people to be able to sustain themselves from it. This point may be accurate but isn't really relevant to this specific discussion. Owned promises to pay streamers a proportion of the money they receive for adverts. This is simply a matter of passing on the money once Owned themselves have received it, not difficult at all and should be pretty straight forward as each streamer receives an amount based on how popular they are. The additional promises that Owned made in regards to extra money to host tournaments etc on a stream was a decision that Owned themselves made and if they didn't have the cash to go through with it (which I suspect they did not) then they should not have made the promise in the first place. This isnt about generating additional money or whether esports is big enough to sustain a large population, it is about a company making promises that they cannot uphold and not complying with the contractual obligations they have imposed on themselves (again we arent 100% sure on the specific clauses of the contract but it is safe to say that the aforementioned would be in there somewhere, unless Destiny is lying). | ||
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Reedy
United Kingdom185 Posts
On January 19 2013 12:02 ParkwayDrive wrote: he plays games at a low level in front of a young audience with nothing better to do. how is that work and deserving of money? You are not entitled to make that call for everyone else. The public as a whole deems what is and what is not worthy of there time and thus what they watch. If advertisers then want to tap into that market and pay streamers for it then that is there decision. Just because you do not like the content doesn't mean it should not be rewarded. | ||
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Maesy
United States1444 Posts
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grockey
United States51 Posts
On January 19 2013 06:53 musai wrote: lol you deserved it also changing IPs is really difficult, i seriously doubt they would ban a range of IPs for something so minor I really wish it wasn't true. I can log onto my account when I'm at other places... but it's a pain in the butt that I can't even watch from my own home. | ||
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