EPTMany sports work this way on their way up in popularity. It will be a defining point in esports if these entities become a reality.
Destiny: Own3d paying streamers late, not fulfilling contr…
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Niska
31 Posts
Many sports work this way on their way up in popularity. It will be a defining point in esports if these entities become a reality. | ||
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Xenocryst
United States521 Posts
On January 18 2013 11:10 Fionn wrote: I never used Own3d. I have a rule that I don't trust companies that use leet speak. It's a rule that most of the world should follow. About to sounds like a total idiot here, but what is leet speak? | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
On January 19 2013 14:59 Xenocryst wrote: About to sounds like a total idiot here, but what is leet speak? n00b. u n0t 1337. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On January 19 2013 14:59 Xenocryst wrote: About to sounds like a total idiot here, but what is leet speak? Using numbers to replace letters. The 1337 (leet) is supposed to translate into "elite" but in a more childish way. | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
On January 19 2013 14:59 Xenocryst wrote: About to sounds like a total idiot here, but what is leet speak? |7'5 t3h 5p34|< 0f t3h |_|83r 1337 h4x0rz |_| n008 It's teh speak of teh uber leet haxorz u noob It's old school hacker speak (leet or 1337 is short for elite) that uses lots of symbols instead of letters. | ||
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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YabbaDabba
3 Posts
On January 19 2013 15:27 Fyrewolf wrote: |7'5 t3h 5p34|< 0f t3h |_|83r 1337 h4x0rz |_| n008 It's teh speak of teh uber leet haxorz u noob It's old school hacker speak (leet or 1337 is short for elite) that uses lots of symbols instead of letters. But, you wouldn't write it like that with so many real letters. !_3375!>34!<5!-!0!_!!_!)!_00!<!1!<37!-!15 + Show Spoiler + Elite speak should look like this Except, I would have used a lot more straight lines instead of exclamation ! if my keyboard had them. If you're using normal letters so that it's readable easily anyway,it defeats the purpose of 1337. 0\/\/|\|3!).7\/ | ||
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CrtBalorda
Slovenia704 Posts
All he did was switch to another game. Geeez, give me a break. | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
But I do respect his decision going to LoL. | ||
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bK-
United States326 Posts
On January 19 2013 23:08 CrtBalorda wrote: God so many Destiny haters. All he did was switch to another game. Geeez, give me a break. I think it is a little more than that. Such as the controversy with him being removed from complexity awhile ago. Not to mention his loose lipped attitude has got him into trouble. ( Look up Destiny's Reddit post regarding him leaving Quantic ). Lastly his latest stint that caused a major stink was the whole him showing nudes to some other chick online. He pissed off some girl and she had the passwords to his twitter. She then proceeded to post the "manhood" there which just led to a lot of nonsense. All in all Destiny does not have the greatest image/reputation but he is a smart individual. To me he just makes poor choices that put him in a tough spot. As for the OP, regarding own3d issue is a big deal within the esports industry I believe we need to filter out as many shady establishments as we can. In the real world that is retail/IT/human services you just cannot fulfill your contractual agreements as they can cost you a lot of money. Given the fact that these streaming providers are trying to pioneer something here means they have first mover's advantage. Unfortunately for the consumer which is the stream and the end user being the viewers get boned here. Overall poor quality and lack of support for the streamer lead to a more frustrated esports industry as a whole. If we want the world to view esports as something that is workable/functional then we got to step it up a notch. Just avoid own3d future streamer's and hopefully the guys behind it will crumple to their lack there of promises. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
On January 19 2013 05:33 Shebuha wrote: Have you considered the fact that not being paid for 5 months may not have left him in a financial position to hire a lawyer and pursue legal action, or that Owned is based in Austria, causing such pursuit to be much more difficult? Lots of lawyers will work out plans with you, you can take out loans. The point is there is a way for him to get a lawyer if he wants. I may be judging him unfairly, but the way he has acted throughout his esports career tells me he is a whiney bitch. | ||
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ES_JohnClark
United States1121 Posts
On January 19 2013 12:24 ParkwayDrive wrote: yes its sad that own3d isnt paying all the real talent that uses them but cmon we play video games, lets all be thankful and not be money whores for a change. things will work out when you do stuff you love. and second i think its in the best interest for all eports if destiny disappeared and i felt like this was a moment to voice my opinion on that. thank you for your time. This mindset is exactly what has gotten us to this point. We have accepted that what we spend our time doing and what others are willing to pay for is somehow just a 'game'. I agree that we play games... but twitch and own3d, leagues, investors and fans are willing to pay for the content and at that point this 'game we play' can become a business. I, myself, have been one of the worst at falling into this mindset.. and even worse, the mindset that "its 'just eSports'... nothing that I can do about not being paid and I really just do this because I love it... so who cares". I am not advocating that we all go out and try to get 'what's ours' or worry only about the money..because that too has posioned this industry... but there is a fine line and we all just need to be better and understanding that and making the most of each situation. We are a very young industry, but at the same time, we have allowed ourselves to believe that all we will ever be is a hobby and that is just simply not true. If we do not start to build more structure and put more 'business' in this industry... others will use up our resources and we will die off ... again. My 3 cents.. John Clark | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
I'm curious, though; why is this in the Starcraft 2 section? League of Legends or General would make more sense. It's been a long time since Destiny stopped streaming SC2. | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
On January 20 2013 01:22 dUTtrOACh wrote: It's not nice that own3d aren't paying Destiny. True. I'm curious, though; why is this in the Starcraft 2 section? League of Legends or General would make more sense. It's been a long time since Destiny stopped streaming SC2. Because destiny is not the only victim? A lot of sc2 players are not getting payed either. It is a general concern. | ||
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garbodor
269 Posts
On January 20 2013 01:22 dUTtrOACh wrote: It's not nice that own3d aren't paying Destiny. True. I'm curious, though; why is this in the Starcraft 2 section? League of Legends or General would make more sense. It's been a long time since Destiny stopped streaming SC2. Did you read the thread or did you just see "destiny" in the title and decide to flame | ||
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
On January 20 2013 01:29 Kznn wrote: Because destiny is not the only victim? A lot of sc2 players are not getting payed either. It is a general concern. So what you are saying is that its in the Sc2 section because it s a GENERAL concern?  Anyway, its playing video games for money, imagine the hoops own3d has to jump through to get the money in the first place, most people shouldnt be suprised at the irregularity of the payments, but rather that they pay anyone anything. | ||
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
Or they're just dumb It's sad to see things like this keep happening, hope it sorted out quickly. | ||
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LOveRH
United States88 Posts
On topic, i feel that Own3d.tv has completely disrespected their contracts with many people. It's one thing if its one person but this is many people coming out and saying that the company is being shady as hell. Own3d.tv deserves, in my opinion to go under, i don't even believe they should reorganize or restructure because i still think everyone would still look poorly on them. They apparently KNOW what they are doing and yet keep doing it, no restructuring is going to fix the fact that they are openly lying to their clients about money. Why the hell would anyone sign with them if he/she have mouths to feed at home? I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with that bullshit. | ||
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Doso
Germany769 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On January 20 2013 01:54 Catch]22 wrote: Anyway, its playing video games for money, imagine the hoops own3d has to jump through to get the money in the first place, most people shouldnt be suprised at the irregularity of the payments, but rather that they pay anyone anything. There's an old internet axiom "someone will defend it" Here people will happily defend terrible business practices in an industry they have zero experience in simply because they are salty that some people get paid to play videogames. | ||
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