Have you considered the fact that not being paid for 5 months may not have left him in a financial position to hire a lawyer and pursue legal action, or that Owned is based in Austria, causing such pursuit to be much more difficult?

QQKachoo

United States192 Posts

January 18 2013 20:34 GMT

#465

On January 19 2013 05:19 svefnleysi wrote:

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Because he doesn't have the funds to pursue legal action. Suing isn't free, you know.

I find it funny how many people think you can just up and sue someone. You have to have the cash to hire the lawyer to sue someone and you have to do a cost benefit analysis to see if it is even worth suing someone (ie you could get a settlement that would cover your lawyer fees and you still get what is owed to you).

Statyk

Canada41 Posts

January 18 2013 20:38 GMT

#466

On January 19 2013 05:34 QQKachoo wrote:
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On January 19 2013 05:19 svefnleysi wrote:

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Because he doesn't have the funds to pursue legal action. Suing isn't free, you know.

(Un)common sense is so hard to come by these days. Hire a lawyer for 15k to possibly reclaim the 5k owed to me? Great deal! Let's go!

FrickenHamster

United States40 Posts

January 18 2013 20:54 GMT

#467

This is where class action lawsuits come in.

Fix637

United States256 Posts

January 18 2013 20:56 GMT

#468

Own3d's service has always been horrendous. I was incredibly shocked when Steven switched to streaming with them over twitch.tv, and I always imagined they must have incentivized him somehow.

I actually had to stop watching Steven's stream after he switched because it lagged when I put it on 1080p and flat out didn't work on anything lower. For the longest time I thought it was simply my internet or computer, but even after upgrading both of those things it still didn't work. It turns out I was right to assume the issue lies with Own3d.

Here's hoping this story reaches as many people as possible and Own3d phases out of existence. They way they've treated Steven is unacceptable. I'm definitely going to start watching Steven's stream again and possibly even subscribe, if for no other reason than I feel bad for the situation he's in.

lolmlg

619 Posts

January 18 2013 21:01 GMT

#469

On January 19 2013 05:38 Statyk wrote:

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(Un)common sense is so hard to come by these days. Hire a lawyer for 15k to possibly reclaim the 5k owed to me? Great deal! Let's go!

His rough estimation of the money he lost is between $15 000 and $30 000. He simply doesn't have the funds or the time to pursue that kind of legal action. But if telling the story helps clean up the industry, or prevents others from being cheated the way he was, then why wouldn't he tell the story? You certainly "on to can do anything", you can spread the information so that people make informed choices on which company they choose to work with or support.

Grimmyman123

Canada939 Posts

January 18 2013 21:10 GMT

#470

This is the end of Own3d if this many players are having issues getting their money. It means their advert revenue and income is less than their operational costs.

They might hang around for a while, taking advantage of smaller players and people who will use their service for free, etc, but eventually, they will close.

If by some miracle they come into some money, satisfy their debts, and get back on the straight path, I will be truly amazed. I've seen many companies go broke, trying to stay afloat, making and breaking promises, it always ends the same.

snively

United States1159 Posts

January 18 2013 21:13 GMT

#471

twitch > own3d
everybody knows it
xD

but in all seriousness, i feel bad for everybody who got screwed over by own3d. i only hope it wasnt intentionally malicious.

Statyk

Canada41 Posts

January 18 2013 21:15 GMT

#472

On January 19 2013 06:01 lolmlg wrote:

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I completely agree, spreading the story was by far the best move. My sarcastic comment was more aimed at people who seem to think that suing own3d will be a quick fix to the situation without considering the logistics behind it.

dAPhREAk

Nauru12397 Posts

January 18 2013 21:17 GMT

#473

to all the people talking about lawyers, in these types of cases the attorney usually works on contingency (i.e., you dont pay unless they win). however, finding a lawyer who would do this case for such a low amount of damages is unlikely especially considering an out-of-country defendant. a lawsuit is not practical in this case.

Godwrath

Spain10126 Posts

January 18 2013 21:18 GMT

#474

Dimaga and Destiny are right now on ChamanV's show, pretty sure they will talk about this.

grockey

United States51 Posts

January 18 2013 21:21 GMT

#475

The only reason I like own2d better ATM is because my little bro used my comp to post porn links in chat channels on Twitch and now I'm IP banned. I've contacted Twitch but they won't help me. I wish I wouldn't have paid for subbing to channels if I wasn't going to be able to use the service.

BluePanther

United States2776 Posts

January 18 2013 21:25 GMT

#476

On January 19 2013 06:21 grockey wrote:
The only reason I like own2d better ATM is because my little bro used my comp to post porn links in chat channels on Twitch and now I'm IP banned. I've contacted Twitch but they won't help me. I wish I wouldn't have paid for subbing to channels if I wasn't going to be able to use the service.

And this is why I like Twitch.

XLongShotX

9 Posts

January 18 2013 21:41 GMT

#477

I'm glad the only player i'm sub'd to is on twitch