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the thing with this show is its basically sports center esq right? the dif is on sports center they have pro players, pro analysts, insiders to the business and years and years of exp.
i cringe when i listen to them discuss the business aspects of owning a team and being successful in esports because cmon, do any of them know anything about any of it....
i had a guy who repairs furniture come over the other day to give us a quote on the damage our new lab puppys did. when he saw the dogs he started giving us a "lesson" on the psychology of dogs and why they are how they are and more specifically the "exact" reasons why our dogs did what they did. needless to say everyone around when he was preaching this got very uncomfortable because hes the least qualified person to be telling us this next to ourselves and i feel the same way when watching this show
a side note... teamhouses are never worth it for a simple reason, pro gaming has no consistent money flow. you get money through sponsorship. you get sponsorship by showing up at tournys and doing well or getting large stream numbers. none of this requires a teamhouse and teamhouses detract from your ability to send players around more often. there is no more lan, if you're eg and your sponsored by a voice chat service then isnt a teamhouse kinda defeating the use of such a service? furthermore how often do these guys REALLY discuss "strats" with each other. be honest. its not much at all. they ladder all day. the purpose of being in a teamhouse is to get BETTER practice then other players or motivation. if your not motivated to practice on your own then you shouldnt be a pro gamer
get a grip
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The show is incredibly well done - the insight into FPS is pretty great to watch.
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On January 28 2013 13:05 sunglasseson wrote:
the thing with this show is its basically sports center esq right? the dif is on sports center they have pro players, pro analysts, insiders to the business and years and years of exp.
i cringe when i listen to them discuss the business aspects of owning a team and being successful in esports because cmon, do any of them know anything about any of it....
i had a guy who repairs furniture come over the other day to give us a quote on the damage our new lab puppys did. when he saw the dogs he started giving us a "lesson" on the psychology of dogs and why they are how they are and more specifically the "exact" reasons why our dogs did what they did. needless to say everyone around when he was preaching this got very uncomfortable because hes the least qualified person to be telling us this next to ourselves and i feel the same way when watching this show
a side note... teamhouses are never worth it for a simple reason, pro gaming has no consistent money flow. you get money through sponsorship. you get sponsorship by showing up at tournys and doing well or getting large stream numbers. none of this requires a teamhouse and teamhouses detract from your ability to send players around more often. there is no more lan, if you're eg and your sponsored by a voice chat service then isnt a teamhouse kinda defeating the use of such a service? furthermore how often do these guys REALLY discuss "strats" with each other. be honest. its not much at all. they ladder all day. the purpose of being in a teamhouse is to get BETTER practice then other players or motivation. if your not motivated to practice on your own then you shouldnt be a pro gamer
get a grip
You go on a rant about how anyone that is not a professional in the field of topic should keep their opinions to themselves, and then promptly go ahead and give us your opinion of the subject? Nice one.
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The show does some things quite well, some things quite terribly. I like having the two really quick interviews to talk about fps games. I like clutch doing the fast general news bit. I like the segment from the fighting game tournament.
I don't like the cheese. There are too many people. More specifically there are too many people who aren't pro gamers. The show really doesn't need more than 3 people, and even then the discussion should be condensed.
Maybe it's because I'm not American, because this is the feeling I get from a lot of US sports shows, but this feels far too fake for me to care about weekly. Maybe it's for someone, but not for me.
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Frodan is taking absolutely no prisoners. HuK gateway jokes etc.
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On January 28 2013 13:29 AgentW wrote:
Frodan is taking absolutely no prisoners. HuK gateway jokes etc.
Loving it. This show is so great
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this show was really funny. adding this to my life.
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This show deserves at least 10k+ viewers. The production is unparalleled
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After this show I am a huge NASL fan lol. First one I saw and I loved it everyone was great even frodan was funny. It's like he got plastic surgery for being funny. Great stuff guys I LOVED it 10/10
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On January 28 2013 13:29 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 13:29 AgentW wrote:
Frodan is taking absolutely no prisoners. HuK gateway jokes etc. Loving it. This show is so great
Boos and woos need to be an every show segment.
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This show is seriously some dope ass shit. I'm glad it's weekly!
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Had a blast watching this show. Never got boring for me. The topics were interesting to me and great production. Maybe to much people but I like it very much overall.
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On January 28 2013 13:05 sunglasseson wrote:
the thing with this show is its basically sports center esq right? the dif is on sports center they have pro players, pro analysts, insiders to the business and years and years of exp.
i cringe when i listen to them discuss the business aspects of owning a team and being successful in esports because cmon, do any of them know anything about any of it....
i had a guy who repairs furniture come over the other day to give us a quote on the damage our new lab puppys did. when he saw the dogs he started giving us a "lesson" on the psychology of dogs and why they are how they are and more specifically the "exact" reasons why our dogs did what they did. needless to say everyone around when he was preaching this got very uncomfortable because hes the least qualified person to be telling us this next to ourselves and i feel the same way when watching this show
a side note... teamhouses are never worth it for a simple reason, pro gaming has no consistent money flow. you get money through sponsorship. you get sponsorship by showing up at tournys and doing well or getting large stream numbers. none of this requires a teamhouse and teamhouses detract from your ability to send players around more often. there is no more lan, if you're eg and your sponsored by a voice chat service then isnt a teamhouse kinda defeating the use of such a service? furthermore how often do these guys REALLY discuss "strats" with each other. be honest. its not much at all. they ladder all day. the purpose of being in a teamhouse is to get BETTER practice then other players or motivation. if your not motivated to practice on your own then you shouldnt be a pro gamer
get a grip
No offense, but if you know anything about the Starcraft talkshow 'scene', this is easily the most professional, structured and best moderated talk show to date. Considering it was only their second episode, I was extremely impressed.
Ironically, you're the one that obviously doesn't know what their talking about. If your only complaint is that they didn't have special guests (despite the obvious effort that Mr Bitter put in doing *gasp!* actual research) than you might want to avoid the lack of professionalism of Inside the Game, State of the Game, Live on Three etc. Compared to this, those shows are meandering circle jerks.
To NASL: Good fucking job. You actually included facts, notes, clips and esports news in your esports show! It's a revolution! Thank you.
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Decent show, it's sometimes a bit chaotic and at other times I get annoyed when you notice too much that they're reading their lines off a piece of paper. I don't agree with some opinions and some were eveb a bit nonsensical in my opinion, but I obviously can't expect a show to represent my own opinions and values, that's fine. Production is great, keep going as long as possible.
Best aspect is obviously that they put a lot of effort into researching their topics and even getting statements/interviews/video content.
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On January 28 2013 13:05 sunglasseson wrote:
the thing with this show is its basically sports center esq right? the dif is on sports center they have pro players, pro analysts, insiders to the business and years and years of exp.
i cringe when i listen to them discuss the business aspects of owning a team and being successful in esports because cmon, do any of them know anything about any of it....
i had a guy who repairs furniture come over the other day to give us a quote on the damage our new lab puppys did. when he saw the dogs he started giving us a "lesson" on the psychology of dogs and why they are how they are and more specifically the "exact" reasons why our dogs did what they did. needless to say everyone around when he was preaching this got very uncomfortable because hes the least qualified person to be telling us this next to ourselves and i feel the same way when watching this show
a side note... teamhouses are never worth it for a simple reason, pro gaming has no consistent money flow. you get money through sponsorship. you get sponsorship by showing up at tournys and doing well or getting large stream numbers. none of this requires a teamhouse and teamhouses detract from your ability to send players around more often. there is no more lan, if you're eg and your sponsored by a voice chat service then isnt a teamhouse kinda defeating the use of such a service? furthermore how often do these guys REALLY discuss "strats" with each other. be honest. its not much at all. they ladder all day. the purpose of being in a teamhouse is to get BETTER practice then other players or motivation. if your not motivated to practice on your own then you shouldnt be a pro gamer
get a grip
Yah I suppose casters who talk with players often and players who have played professionally in other games over the last five years are totally less qualified than you to talk about things like team houses and training.
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On January 28 2013 13:58 StarVe wrote:
Decent show, it's sometimes a bit chaotic and at other times I get annoyed when you notice too much that they're reading their lines off a piece of paper. I don't agree with some opinions and some were eveb a bit nonsensical in my opinion, but I obviously can't expect a show to represent my own opinions and values, that's fine. Production is great, keep going as long as possible.
Best aspect is obviously that they put a lot of effort into researching their topics and even getting statements/interviews/video content.
I'm glad they actually had a real argument with different points of view. State of the Game is barely on anymore, and Inside the Game has pretty much become Inside the EG House (I like EG, but all those guys pretty much have a hive mind).
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On January 28 2013 14:05 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 13:58 StarVe wrote:
Decent show, it's sometimes a bit chaotic and at other times I get annoyed when you notice too much that they're reading their lines off a piece of paper. I don't agree with some opinions and some were eveb a bit nonsensical in my opinion, but I obviously can't expect a show to represent my own opinions and values, that's fine. Production is great, keep going as long as possible.
Best aspect is obviously that they put a lot of effort into researching their topics and even getting statements/interviews/video content. I'm glad they actually had a real argument with different points of view. State of the Game is barely on anymore, and Inside the Game has pretty much become Inside the EG House (I like EG, but all those guys pretty much have a hive mind).
For sure, I just think they were sometimes a bit too focused on getting in the points they were scheduled to make and it didn't feel as much as a discussion and more like people checking pre-planned arguments off a list. I don't think anyone changed his opinion, they just followed their own train of thought.
Regarding houses in general, I'm with Rotterdam.
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