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MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
January 03 2013 15:12 GMT
#421
Depressing news for the new year. Hope for the best, for all ex-TSL players.
Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
January 03 2013 15:14 GMT
#422
So what Lastshadow said was real =/ This sucks
di4m0nd
Profile Joined June 2010
United States297 Posts
January 03 2013 15:17 GMT
#423
sad day TSL was a great team

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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
January 03 2013 15:21 GMT
#424
The "other team that has no sponsors" Slasher is talking about is probably Prime. There goes the GSTL, guys.
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Ydriel
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Italy516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 15:31:37
January 03 2013 15:22 GMT
#425
Wow. Parting gets elected player of the year by TL, he leaves TSL. TSL gets elected team of the year, disbands. I see a pattern here...*gets a tinfoil hat*

Still, a total shame, I loved TSL, so much talent right there. Symbol has always been one of my favourite Zs. Let's hope they can find a suitable team for them

Edit: Oh my, nevermind, somehow confused TSL with ST >.< That's what I get for posting right out of bed
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46304 Posts
January 03 2013 15:23 GMT
#426
Wait, was the end of the world supposed to be in 2012 or 2013? x.x
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 03 2013 15:24 GMT
#427
On January 04 2013 00:22 Ydriel wrote:
Wow. Parting gets elected player of the year by TL, he leaves TSL. TSL gets elected team of the year, disbands. I see a pattern here...*gets a tinfoil hat*



TSL isn't ST ...
Wat
AyatoK
Profile Joined August 2012
Morocco12 Posts
January 03 2013 15:24 GMT
#428
On January 04 2013 00:22 Ydriel wrote:
Wow. Parting gets elected player of the year by TL, he leaves TSL. TSL gets elected team of the year, disbands. I see a pattern here...*gets a tinfoil hat*


Parting was on Startale, team of the year was Startale
Oh RLY ?
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
January 03 2013 15:30 GMT
#429
Even though I (still) am a big MBC fan, I honestly did not like coach Lee.
That said, I really do feel sad for the players on the team.
I wish the team could continue, but without coach Lee.

Good luck for the (really good btw) players that are now free of contract.
What are you tinkering about?
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 15:38:25
January 03 2013 15:34 GMT
#430
Seems like the non-kespa korean teams are having a really tough time. Prime, now TSL :[

This is sad as I have a lot of good memories of TSL in the GSTL and such.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
zkeller51
Profile Joined September 2012
United States25 Posts
January 03 2013 15:35 GMT
#431
sad day for tasteosis
gelle
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany12 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 15:36:41
January 03 2013 15:36 GMT
#432
On January 03 2013 23:49 Arbee wrote:
While I am saddened by this as I have always really liked TSL as one of those "smaller" teams, I can't say it is overly surprising. But it also is a bit upsetting on how poorly the Korean teams are being run. Let me tell you this:

A couple months ago or so, I contacted TSL about a possible sponsorship for their team. I initially spoke with Sephora as she was kind of the website/English person and she was very good at communicating with me and relaying a few messages with Coach Lee. Finally Coach Lee wanted to set up a meeting on Skype and asked me to add him, I did but he never accepted. Sephora then asked that I email him, and I did with some basic overviews of what I was willing to offer and what I was hoping to get out of a sponsorship. Once again, he never responded. When I followed up with Sephora the only answer I got was that he was really bad with Skype and emails, and that she would try again.

Its really a shame, but at the same time I can't feel bad for the Korean teams who say they have sponsorship problems that force them to lose players, or even an entire team but do not respond to serious sponsorship proposals. I can say that my proposal ranged from a couple thousand dollars for a small recognition (logo/patch) for my organization, to something in the 5-digit range for a little more formal sponsorship and possible partnership with the team I am building that could be used for expenses, stipends, or to help send players to foreign events if thats what they desired. So needless to say, while it may not have saved the team on its own, it would most certainly have been a pretty substantial private sponsorship amount, that could have helped a team continue to operate and help players out.

TSL is not the only team I have previously contacted either, however sadly enough they were actually the most responsive of the teams that were apparently having financial trouble. I have thought this for quite some time, but the Korean ESF teams (not including FXO, and maybe even ST) are extremely poorly run as a business. And for a team having trouble to not even respond to sponsorship inquires and then use lack of sponsors as a reason to disband, is not a true portrayal of the problem with teams in Korea.

I may consider looking into a "save TSL" effort though.....


very insightful post, thanks.

it seems to me that with the major changes in the last months there has to be some change in the ESF-teams. With Kespa teams switching over and more and more foreign teams picking up good korean players and even entering PL before any ESF team there's a lot of pressure on the existing ESF-teams. From the beginning of sc2 i heard that the korean teams doesnt pay salery or only a small one to their players and wondered how long the players will accept that. I hoped that the situation changed, but unfortunatly not for TSL. Maybe now there is the point of change for the teams. Partings depart from Startale fits to that, too.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
January 03 2013 15:37 GMT
#433
Honestly, even though South Korea is the homeland of e-sports and such, there's only so many teams/players that can be supported
Too much is too much

Next on the line are

Prime
Team 8 (let's see how long Kespa will put up with this team without a sponsor)

NSH won't die because it's not a real pro-team, it's more like a clan or something. As long as their players feel like playing, they can go on


I know it'll never happen (and it's mean), but I think the ideal situation (not so ideal, though) would be for Prime/Team8 to just die, and Proleague absorbs LG-IM/Startale/MVP/FXO and be a 10 teams league (assuming EG-TL doesn't come back next season). GSL just handles the individual league

But because of the OSL boycott, Kespa wouldn't do that, I'm sure
...
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
January 03 2013 15:37 GMT
#434
Knew this would happen Still hurts.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
January 03 2013 15:40 GMT
#435
Awwwww.... Amazing they were playing without any salaries. May they all find well-sponsored teams in the future.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 03 2013 15:47 GMT
#436
On January 03 2013 23:57 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 23:49 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 23:44 Butterednuts wrote:
I didn't know that most of the players weren't payed. If that's true, then hopefully HyuN can get an actual contract where he has a paid salary. Probably for the better, even though this was one of my favorite KR teams.



IPL_HyuN for real perhaps =d

God I hope not. IPL is a great league but please no. I would see him fitting in well on a team like AZUBU or something in a similar vein.


Was mostly joking, I don't think IPL will take that kind of role after what happend to team REIGN
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Obeast96
Profile Joined October 2012
United States106 Posts
January 03 2013 15:51 GMT
#437
Really sad to hear. T_T Hope they find new homes. I think Axiom or Liquid would be a good fit
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
January 03 2013 15:53 GMT
#438
I am actually glad that this happened. Now Hyun, Symbol & Co. will find foreign teams with decent salaries. I am 100% against the idea of staying in a team with no money just because of loyalty or moral obligations.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
January 03 2013 15:57 GMT
#439
Seriously, with TSL and Slayers gone, and considering Fnatic only has 3 korean players on their roster (and 3 foreigners who don't live in korea, or at least I doubt it), we are only left with Prime, FXO, Startale, MVP, NSHS and IM. NSHS also has very few players. Maybe this means EG-TL will play in the GSTL?
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
MrF
Profile Joined October 2011
United States320 Posts
January 03 2013 16:01 GMT
#440
Well hyun and symbol should be alright
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