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Fantasy Proleague '12-13 Round 2: All-Kill! - Page 4

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Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
January 03 2013 13:55 GMT
#61
I just wanna say that for a all-kill format, zergs are a better pick than for regular bo1 with preparation time. Unless they are overevaluated (like Jaedong for example), I think the best fantasy proleaguer will have many zergs in their roaster.
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 13:56:04
January 03 2013 13:55 GMT
#62
On January 03 2013 22:55 Thurken wrote:
I just wanna say that for a all-kill format, zergs are a better pick than for regular bo1 with preparation time. Unless they are overevaluated (like Jaedong for example), I think the best fantasy proleaguer will have many zergs in their roaster.


Normally I would agree, but I think going for Zergs is worse in all kill format in pl, because pl uses some weird maps on which they can't close their eyes and make broodlords. I feel like Protoss who can do solid allins or some big boss Terrans like Taeja or maybe someone like Fantasy/Flash will be more useful this round.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
January 03 2013 13:57 GMT
#63
On January 03 2013 22:27 Arceus wrote:
when is the deadline for registering? My laptop broke down and I wont be able to get a new one until late tomorrow

Look at the countdown at the top of your screen.
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
January 03 2013 14:03 GMT
#64
How come you could abuse Stephano on anti-team when he wasn't even in Korea last round, but this round when he will be in Korea for Code S (and most likely play some Proleague match) you can't pick him?

[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
January 03 2013 14:05 GMT
#65
On January 03 2013 23:03 Gosi wrote:
How come you could abuse Stephano on anti-team when he wasn't even in Korea last round, but this round when he will be in Korea for Code S (and most likely play some Proleague match) you can't pick him?


You couldn't initially pick Stephano on anti-team last season either. We just weren't sure of Stephano's schedule last season. This season, we know for sure he'll be in Korea by week 2, so you just can't pick him week 1.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13004 Posts
January 03 2013 14:13 GMT
#66
On January 03 2013 22:55 speknek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 22:55 Thurken wrote:
I just wanna say that for a all-kill format, zergs are a better pick than for regular bo1 with preparation time. Unless they are overevaluated (like Jaedong for example), I think the best fantasy proleaguer will have many zergs in their roaster.


Normally I would agree, but I think going for Zergs is worse in all kill format in pl, because pl uses some weird maps on which they can't close their eyes and make broodlords. I feel like Protoss who can do solid allins or some big boss Terrans like Taeja or maybe someone like Fantasy/Flash will be more useful this round.

I agree with you. I used to overrate the importance of zergs in PL. Even though they don't have preparation time for specific players, they can prepare for specific maps, which is more than enough to allow protoss and terrans to shine.

I feel like Revival can (and will?) all-kill KT this first match, if he has time to adjust to the maps. He has a scary potential in teamleague but there are a lot of great players on EGTL for only 4 places, so his only apparent "weakness" as a FPL pick is that he might not have enough playtime. However they are sending him first...

I will still keep Bbyong instead of Revival in my main team because I think picking the latter is quite a gamble (what if he just loses to Flash and they stop sending him?) but I'm almost certain he will screw me by winning big.
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ColonelK
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom11 Posts
January 03 2013 14:16 GMT
#67
Cmon SKT I put all my eggs in one basket with you lot
Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning. Winston Churchill
Luftmensch
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
277 Posts
January 03 2013 14:22 GMT
#68
On January 03 2013 17:22 DOUDOU wrote:
always thought we were carrying our team for every round, i guess having stephano as a long term investment was a really bad idea


I thought this too and am disappointed they haven't made the format clear from the beginning.
You are now breathing manually
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 14:26:24
January 03 2013 14:23 GMT
#69
This is not so important for the all-kill format, but for the next regular round I would suggest you do something against "one team" teams the same way you do not allow "one race" teams. The way it is now it is best to just pick one team and all/many of its members and hope it will do well because of the bonus points for team wins and because it is likely that if your team wins the players also win. We had two rounds of mono team wins in a row (KT/SKT) and it is likely going to repeat if no additional rules are installed.

I would suggest for the next regular rounds that you are allowed to only pick 2 or 3 players of the same team.
Luftmensch
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
277 Posts
January 03 2013 14:27 GMT
#70
On January 03 2013 23:23 Fenrax wrote:
I would suggest for the next regular rounds that you are allowed to only pick 2 or 3 players of the same team.


That is actually a standard limitation in sports fantasy leagues.
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SneX
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden377 Posts
January 03 2013 14:33 GMT
#71
On January 03 2013 23:27 Luftmensch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 23:23 Fenrax wrote:
I would suggest for the next regular rounds that you are allowed to only pick 2 or 3 players of the same team.


That is actually a standard limitation in sports fantasy leagues.


Yes, i like this idea!
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 20:48:03
January 03 2013 15:22 GMT
#72
Player List (with points, team and TLPD links)

+ Show Spoiler [7+ points] +
11 - (SKT) (P)Rain
10 - (KT) (T)Flash
9 - (SKT) (T)Fantasy
9 - (TL) (T)TaeJa
8 - (T8) (T)BaBy
8 - (STX) (T)Bogus
8 - (CJ) (Z)EffOrt
8 - (WJS) (P)sHy
8 - (WJS) (Z)SoulKey
8 - (EG) (Z)Stephano
8 - (CJ) (P)herO[jOin]
7 - (TL) (P)HerO
7 - (EG) (Z)Jaedong
7 - (KT) (P)Stats

+ Show Spoiler [4 to 6 points] +
6 - (KT) (Z)Action
6 - (SAM) (P)JangBi
6 - (SAM) (Z)RorO
6 - (KT) (P)Wooki
5 - (KT) (Z)Crazy-Hydra
5 - (STX) (P)Dear
5 - (EG) (P)JYP
5 - (SAM) (P)Stork
5 - (WJS) (Z)ZerO
5 - (WJS) (T)hOn_sin
5 - (SKT) (Z)SoO
4 - (T8) (P)Jaehoon
4 - (T8) (T)Speed
4 - (STX) (P)Trap
4 - (STX) (Z)hyvaa

+ Show Spoiler [3 points] +
3 - (CJ) (T)Bbyong
3 - (SKT) (P)Best
3 - (SKT) (P)Bisu
3 - (KT) (Z)Hitman
3 - (CJ) (Z)Hydra
3 - (STX) (T)Last
3 - (WJS) (T)Light
3 - (KT) (P)Motive
3 - (SAM) (T)Reality
3 - (EG) (Z)Revival
3 - (T8) (Z)Ryul2
3 - (CJ) (Z)SonGDuri
3 - (T8) (P)Terminator
3 - (TL) (Z)Zenio
3 - (WJS) (P)free
3 - (SKT) (Z)s2
3 - (CJ) (T)sKyHigh

+ Show Spoiler [2 points] +
2 - (T8) (Z)Alone
2 - (KT) (T)BarrackS
2 - (CJ) (P)Bong[S.G]
2 - (STX) (T)Classic
2 - (EG) (T)DeMusliM
2 - (WJS) (P)Flying
2 - (KT) (Z)HoeJJa
2 - (EG) (P)HuK
2 - (EG) (Z)IdrA
2 - (T8) (T)MajOr
2 - (KT) (T)Mind
2 - (WJS) (P)NaGi
2 - (SKT) (P)ParalyzE
2 - (EG) (T)PuMa
2 - (SKT) (Z)Sacsri
2 - (SAM) (Z)Shine
2 - (EG) (T)ThorZaIN
2 - (SAM) (T)TurN
2 - (SAM) (Z)hOpe
2 - (SKT) (T)yeOngJae

+ Show Spoiler [1 point] +
1 - (KT) (Z)Acacia
1 - (SAM) (Z)BBatta
1 - (STX) Bear
1 - (WJS) (P)BisAnG
1 - (STX) (Z)Calm
1 - (STX) (P)Comet
1 - (T8) (Z)Dream.t)check
1 - (WJS) Hanbin
1 - (T8) (P)Haruhi
1 - (SKT) (Z)Hyuk
1 - (SAM) (Z)JuNi
1 - (SAM) (T)Kop
1 - (CJ) (P)Leta
1 - (STX) (P)Mini
1 - (KT) (P)MyuNgSiK
1 - (KT) (Z)PenguiN
1 - (WJS) (T)Rudy
1 - (T8) (P)Sherry
1 - (STX) (Z)Size
1 - (CJ) (T)Snow
1 - (WJS) Swift
1 - (WJS) (Z)fOKINS
1 - (KT) (T)miso
1 - (SAM) (Z)oDin
1 - (CJ) (Z)rare
1 - (SKT) (T)sSak


Team List

6 - EG-TL
6 - KT Rolster
5 - Woongjin Stars
4 - SKT T1
3 - CJ Entus
2 - STX Soul
2 - Team 8
1 - Samsung Khan

PS : Tell me if I made any mistake.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 16:49:58
January 03 2013 16:48 GMT
#73
Is Action highly overrated or am I crazy? sure he has good Stats for S1, but look at his opponents, there is only one good one (sOs) and (surprise, surprise) he lost that match^^



And anyone else putting all his hopse on WJS? I just had to, cause of the good draw in W1^^
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 17:18:02
January 03 2013 17:16 GMT
#74
I completely agree about Action, but he still at least seems solid and some people go for combinations of more mid-tier players with one strong one and one or more 1 pointers.
We'll have to see, but it seems like while KT as a team (3 points last round? WTF?!?!) and some players including Action were underrated last round, some may have 'overperformed' and might now be rated too highly.
I can't see who it was now, but there was at least one player who lost more than they won but was really only losing to very strong players. Due to racial and tiny point limitations, I didn't choose either Free or Light but I think they might be good choices for their 3 point values.

EDIT:
On January 03 2013 23:22 Luftmensch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 17:22 DOUDOU wrote:
always thought we were carrying our team for every round, i guess having stephano as a long term investment was a really bad idea


I thought this too and am disappointed they haven't made the format clear from the beginning.

Yeah, this!!
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 17:31:01
January 03 2013 17:27 GMT
#75
On January 04 2013 02:16 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
EDIT:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 23:22 Luftmensch wrote:
On January 03 2013 17:22 DOUDOU wrote:
always thought we were carrying our team for every round, i guess having stephano as a long term investment was a really bad idea


I thought this too and am disappointed they haven't made the format clear from the beginning.

Yeah, this!!

It was made clear, at least I knew it from the start because I read it here. Not sure if it was in the OP of the threads or they posted it in the comments, but I'm very certain they told us how it would go.

On January 04 2013 01:48 Zeon0 wrote:
Is Action highly overrated or am I crazy? sure he has good Stats for S1, but look at his opponents, there is only one good one (sOs) and (surprise, surprise) he lost that match^^



And anyone else putting all his hopse on WJS? I just had to, cause of the good draw in W1^^


I think WJS will do very well, but getting more than like two players from one team doesn't make much sense because there's only so many players who can get a lot of points in a BO7 by getting streaks. You should probably rather branch out and get players from a bunch of different good teams. A full KT team for example won't do nearly as well this time.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
January 03 2013 17:38 GMT
#76
Picking an Anti-Team is SOOOOOOOOOO hard. I had a pretty easy time finding a Team- couple of my favorites still a bit undervalued IMO. But I'm having trouble finding anyone who I think is OVER valued. Going with a 3 mid range players seems like a bad strat... and so does doing the 1 player with 8 or 9 and a couple of 2's. Very hard anti this time
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 03 2013 17:43 GMT
#77
I made a smart team I think. The concept is very simple. If HerO all kills everything, I should win.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 03 2013 17:45 GMT
#78
Sorry, how do we see last season's results? I didnt get to see mine at all yet.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
BliptiX
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada324 Posts
January 03 2013 17:48 GMT
#79
On January 04 2013 02:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
Sorry, how do we see last season's results? I didnt get to see mine at all yet.


I just go to the new signup page and at the bottom you can click and view all the previous seasons.
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 17:52:33
January 03 2013 17:52 GMT
#80
Goddamn. Fantasy is 9 points? So tempting, like a forbidden fruit.

Every single 1-pointer seems worthless, even more so in an all-kill format. Sure, maybe a 1-pointer will successfully snipe, but then he'll lose the next game.

I don't think any of the 8+ pointers are worth it. I got burned by Effort last round, not making the same mistake again. Flash looks nice at 10 but is Flash plus a 1 pointer really going to get more points than say, a 6 and a 5 on your team?

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