• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:45
CET 13:45
KST 21:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
https://www.facebook.com/Silen.Sense.Calm.Ears.Ire What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY Recent recommended BW games Gypsy to Korea RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group B 2026 Changsha Offline Cup [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Which is better SEO or PPC? [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11476 users

Fantasy Proleague '12-13 Round 1 - Page 93

Forum Index > SC2 General
1887 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 91 92 93 94 95 Next
View results and standings here.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12076 Posts
January 02 2013 13:58 GMT
#1841
On January 02 2013 22:53 Ragnarork wrote:
I have a question about the trade values.
I searched the topic for some answers, but didn't manage to...
Why does every player/team has a trade value of 0 currently... ?
(Sorry if I missed it...)


This round is over. New round soon.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
January 02 2013 14:07 GMT
#1842
I started disastrously and managed to pull myself back to #544 with a huge last week. Basically I ignored the cardinal rule of never picking Shine, Roro or Jaehoon on my anti-team and paid the price for it. Like everyone else, I also should have traded for Stephano in the first week, and got rid of Puma as soon as possible =/

Other than that, luck wasn't on my side. Flying sucked, and so did Puma (I thought he was really good value at the beginning, but I guess not). And then out of all the random two pointers, I just had to pick Speed for my anti-team, who turned out to be the find of the season for T8.

Well, you learn.

The good news is that Shine is slumping hard, which means lots of people will put him on their anti for round two and proceed to get destroyed in classic fashion.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Wayem
Profile Joined May 2010
France455 Posts
January 02 2013 14:08 GMT
#1843
Well, goal accomplished for me.

I wanted to be top 1/4, I ended 1117# and 262/1501 protoss users. I think I got to much carried by my heart and not by my brain... but still, this was really fun.

Better than expected

(Z)s2: 11 points. Yes, s2. For a 1point guy, this is a very nice investment if you compare it to some "stars" that performed poorly. Played 3times/7matches, is 2-1 including one victory of Jaedong that saved T1 head vs EGTL. Hats off, s2.

As expected

(T)Fantasy (captain): 27 points. Amazing player for an amazing performance. More than everything: Fanta enjoys playing and you feel it when watching his play.

(P)JangBi: 15 points. Really near disappointment, but performed well at the end. When such a BW monster says that he really loves SC2.. just don't count him out.

SKTT1: because it's SKT. Nuff said.

Disappointments

(P)HerO: 13 points. Not bad, yes... but he was so expensive that he wasn't worth it. Never used as ace, didn't play the beginning of the round, and 3-3 only.

(P)Bisu: 8 points. Yeah, I know... got carried by my heart. But... it's Bisu. Those points would have been much more useful in another player though. Quite the difference since he was quite expensive at the beginning. But his saving grace that makes him not bad in my main is because of SKT...

(Z)IdrA: 3 points. My fault, I thought he would originally play. Still, I believe he would make a quite nice sniper, especially in HOTS since he trains hard and early.

Anti-team: -26, I think it's pretty reasonable. Satisfied here with (Z)Stephano, (T)Reality and Terminator.

Really waiting for next round.

FPL makes proleague so much more exciting... even if the quality wasn't always there, the entertainment was for me far higher than GSL.
"who needs micro when you can have more stuff ?" -day9
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
January 02 2013 15:45 GMT
#1844
When will next round of FPL open?
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
January 02 2013 15:53 GMT
#1845
So there will still be fantasy for round 2, even if it is an all-kill format?
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
January 02 2013 15:55 GMT
#1846
On January 03 2013 00:53 Wingblade wrote:
So there will still be fantasy for round 2, even if it is an all-kill format?


Well we had fantasy GSTL and GSTL was always all kill, so...
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
January 02 2013 16:36 GMT
#1847
will there be a post about the scoring for the all-kill format? can imagine it would be slightly different but well, maybe im wrong
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
January 02 2013 16:45 GMT
#1848
Pretty happy with my round 1 performance #67 overall) considering I didn't follow bw at all
My team
Captain tajea: I thought he was the best player overall and the fact he is balenced in all matchups meant he would get every ace match for eg-liquid. I still think it was a good pick but wish he won one more ace match.
Neo soulkey - I went with soul key because out of all the brood war players I seen play vs top gsl guys soul key was the most consistent more so then flash rain and bogus. Also soulkey is go to guy on woojin.unlike the combo of rain and fantasy on sk who might spilt ace dutys
Jangbi- I needed a Protoss and while I wasn't impressed with his osl matches but for his price I thought he was a solid choice. He turned it around at the end but boy do I wish I picked wooki
Bbyong- I picked him based on solid gsl results and low price. He didn't do as well as I thought but had alot of tough match ups and if his value stays low I might take him again
Ryul2- extremely cheap and with Jaedong gone he was now team 8 #1 Zerg and with tal drim alter in the map pool he seemed like a good pick.
Hyuk- I needed a 1 point player so I just picked someone on Sk who I though was the best team. I traded and got sc2 a solider player who I foolishly traded for puma week 4
Kt rolster I picked them thinking they were valued correctly and playing a undermanned eg-liquid team week 1. I was hoping to trade up to sk or cj if they started strong but just stuck with them as they kicked butt all season
Can't wait for next round anyone know when we can start picking teams?
Moar banelings less qq
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 02 2013 16:51 GMT
#1849
On January 03 2013 01:36 Koerage wrote:
will there be a post about the scoring for the all-kill format? can imagine it would be slightly different but well, maybe im wrong

Scoring will presumably be the same as here.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
January 02 2013 17:06 GMT
#1850
When do signups start? The new PL round starts in 3 days :D
I think esports is pretty nice.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
January 02 2013 17:11 GMT
#1851
Most likely tonight
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 02 2013 17:33 GMT
#1852
Did surprisingly well for my first Fantasy Proleague. Managed to stay in top 100 (#99 it is!) for the final round, and even bounced to around #35 once.

Fantasy and Flash as captain performing as well as expected, though I was a bit sad by Flash's losses the final week. Crazy-Hydra was a good pick, and free was alright. The other two spots are dead-end. Low value players I can't trade for anything better. At least they're on SKT and gives me a point each every time the team wins, which is quite often. Currently I have only one player from outside SKT and KT, which is free. Seems it was a good idea, since both teams are doing great.

Anti-team is doing good. Had Trap first week, and though I like him and he's good, I had a feeling he would underperform at the start, which he did. Traded him for Stephano before Trap started winning. Having Zenio on my anti is somewhat mixed. I've always felt he was overvalued, but EG-TL keeps sending him out, and he occassionally wins, but I guess 9 points isn't so bad for me.

Being totally carried by chosing KT as my team though. Definitely loving the whole concept of Fantasy Proleague. Makes the games so much more exciting!
Flash | Mvp
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 02 2013 17:48 GMT
#1853
I'm content with #43 despite place #2 after week 2.

hero[join] => Soulkey

hero[join] was the best player in the first 2 weeks with 18 points. I then traded him for Soulkey for gave me 12 additional points (7 more than hero would have). Content with both.

Action
Got him because of his first week match against Thorzain. He brought 23 total points for the investment of 3 credits. What a beast!

soO
17 points are ok-ish for a 6 credit player. Should have traded him for Taeja after week 2 (or 3?).

ZerO
Another great value (17 points) for 4 credits.

Bbyong
My captain. Could have done a bit better than 12 points for 4 credits.

Crazy-Hydra => Terminator
Traded Crazy-Hydra away for Terminator after week 2. While Terminator wasnt bad (didnt get to play his set #6 in last 2 matches), Crazy-Hydra went on to win 3 sets. Big mistake.

Anti-Team
Trap
Correct pick as far as worst performing 7 credit player goes. Still Stephano was 'not performing' and should have been the trade after week 1.

Zenio => Stephano
So I only could trade Zenio for him after week 2. Which was still worth it.

Huk
Was fielded twice, played and lost 1. Good pick.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 18:26:24
January 02 2013 18:20 GMT
#1854
I have seen the top standing of the fantasy proleague and I'm very surprised nearly everyone at the top 100 (even top 10) were pretty bad with their antiteam.
Only 7 people out of the top100 have -15 or less with their antiteam.
Idra and Stephano were obvious choices for round one since their were not gonna play. Especially Stephano with his 7$ price. Huk was pretty obvious too.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
January 02 2013 18:43 GMT
#1855
On January 03 2013 03:20 Thurken wrote:
I have seen the top standing of the fantasy proleague and I'm very surprised nearly everyone at the top 100 (even top 10) were pretty bad with their antiteam.
Only 7 people out of the top100 have -15 or less with their antiteam.
Idra and Stephano were obvious choices for round one since their were not gonna play. Especially Stephano with his 7$ price. Huk was pretty obvious too.

Most people didn't know he was not going to play because the signups were like only 2 days.
Otherwise of course a IdrA - Stephano - Huk (not sure if 13 points) or Shine would have been a deadly combination.
WriterMaru
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 19:13:00
January 02 2013 19:04 GMT
#1856
On January 03 2013 03:20 Thurken wrote:
I have seen the top standing of the fantasy proleague and I'm very surprised nearly everyone at the top 100 (even top 10) were pretty bad with their antiteam.
Only 7 people out of the top100 have -15 or less with their antiteam.
Idra and Stephano were obvious choices for round one since their were not gonna play. Especially Stephano with his 7$ price. Huk was pretty obvious too.

Stephano was ineligible for round one because he wasn't in Korea, you had to trade for him after the first week in order to get him on your anti team.

And it was pretty fucking hard to get -15 or less on your anti team. Most people didn't have a clue about the level of Kespa players prior to the start of the season and once you pick, you can only trade upwards in point value and you never know who's going to get a lucky break.

IdrA/HuK are maybe "obvious choices" to you, but in reality they were so low in point value that you really couldn't pick both of them comfortably without getting fucked by your third player choice.

Ideally you probably should have picked something like 6/4/3 or 6/5/2 in point values, and then you need to get lucky that the highly valued players don't perform at all. Next round will be way harder because Stephano will presumably be playing so there won't be an easy way out of having a seven point player who never actually plays and only gives you team point losses.

Trap/Shine/Kop (trade Trap for Stephano after R1) would have been a just about optimal FPL anti team, but getting this right was very very unlikely.

I don't think many players will have a sub-20-point anti team next round.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 19:46:17
January 02 2013 19:06 GMT
#1857
On January 03 2013 03:43 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 03:20 Thurken wrote:
I have seen the top standing of the fantasy proleague and I'm very surprised nearly everyone at the top 100 (even top 10) were pretty bad with their antiteam.
Only 7 people out of the top100 have -15 or less with their antiteam.
Idra and Stephano were obvious choices for round one since their were not gonna play. Especially Stephano with his 7$ price. Huk was pretty obvious too.

Most people didn't know he was not going to play because the signups were like only 2 days.
Otherwise of course a IdrA - Stephano - Huk (not sure if 13 points) or Shine would have been a deadly combination.

It was said by several people (including himself) that Stephano was not gonna be in Korea in december 2012.
It was also very likely that Idra/Huk would not win more than 1 match if ever aligned. Knowing that Shine would have a 0-5 record was way harder
edit: Ok StarVe, you had to trade Stephano after the first week so maybe I should count people with -20 or less in their antiteam but there are still very few of them.
And when I say "obvious", I mean "relatively obvious comparing to how this particular unknown for sc2 kespa pro will perform". Yes you had to pick one of them and another one with a 3$ value. By the way, congratulations for your +144 fantasy team points.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
January 02 2013 19:45 GMT
#1858
On January 03 2013 04:06 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 03:43 Poopi wrote:
On January 03 2013 03:20 Thurken wrote:
I have seen the top standing of the fantasy proleague and I'm very surprised nearly everyone at the top 100 (even top 10) were pretty bad with their antiteam.
Only 7 people out of the top100 have -15 or less with their antiteam.
Idra and Stephano were obvious choices for round one since their were not gonna play. Especially Stephano with his 7$ price. Huk was pretty obvious too.

Most people didn't know he was not going to play because the signups were like only 2 days.
Otherwise of course a IdrA - Stephano - Huk (not sure if 13 points) or Shine would have been a deadly combination.

It was said by several people (including himself) that Stephano was not gonna be in Korea in december 2012.
It was also very likely that Idra/Huk would not win more than 1 match if ever aligned. Knowing that Shine would have a 0-5 record was way harder
edit: Ok StarVe, you had to trade Stephano after the first week so maybe I should count people with -20 or less in their antiteam but there are still very few of them.
And when I say "obvious", I mean "relatively obvious comparing to how this particular unknown for sc2 kespa pro will perform". By the way, congratulations for your +144 fantasy team points.

Yeah maybe but not everyone knew it. For the instance I only knew it after reading it somewhere on this thread a few hours after the sign-ups were closed.
The next anti-team picks will be far harder without a "free" +7 points player, and more people will be signed up/warned up about how the fantasy team league works, so it'll be very interesting.

Plus tell me if I'm wrong but isn't all-kill format harder to master because you don't have only "ace potential" to take into account but also sniper who gains points by stopping streak and stuff like that?

WriterMaru
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
January 02 2013 20:43 GMT
#1859
Anyone knows when will the new round start? I had really a lot of fun even though at start I didn't know almost any player and just random picked most, but now after somewhat knowing the players I think the 2nd round will be even more great!
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
January 02 2013 21:25 GMT
#1860
Will you start with your current team for round 2 or will you start from scratch?

Kim
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Prev 1 91 92 93 94 95 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 15m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko728
Rex 116
trigger 49
MindelVK 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 42816
Sea 3929
Jaedong 1271
Mini 419
Killer 407
Shuttle 400
firebathero 387
Soma 317
actioN 287
Stork 260
[ Show more ]
Last 227
EffOrt 222
Soulkey 193
Hyun 172
hero 76
Sharp 62
[sc1f]eonzerg 53
Barracks 46
sSak 45
Sacsri 36
sorry 33
ToSsGirL 27
Movie 22
Hm[arnc] 20
Rock 18
scan(afreeca) 17
IntoTheRainbow 16
Noble 13
GoRush 11
SilentControl 10
Dota 2
Gorgc5675
Counter-Strike
zeus595
allub338
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor125
Other Games
FrodaN3704
singsing2018
ArmadaUGS1918
B2W.Neo1067
crisheroes235
Happy234
XaKoH 198
Fuzer 177
RotterdaM132
Sick121
KnowMe107
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV106
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1056
League of Legends
• Jankos2581
Upcoming Events
Platinum Heroes Events
2h 15m
BSL
7h 15m
RSL Revival
21h 15m
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
23h 15m
BSL
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
1d 22h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-27
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.