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On December 14 2012 05:18 Talin wrote:
Problem with Bisu on anti is that you'll be bleeding points due to SKT wins if nothing else. Probably 5 or 6 points minimum until the end of round.
I'm not quite sure how the value adjustment formula works though.
Wish I had a general idea as well, so I can make a quick calculation.
And that's true, SKT has by far the deepest lineup in the proleague (deeper than EG-TL, and STX), with two ace players.
Hopefully Stephano keeps touring around and missing out on proleague.
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On December 14 2012 05:22 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 05:21 Caihead wrote:On December 14 2012 05:18 Talin wrote:
Problem with Bisu on anti is that you'll be bleeding points due to SKT wins if nothing else. Probably 5 or 6 points minimum until the end of round.
I'm not quite sure how the value adjustment formula works though. If Bisu isn't on the lineup of the games you don't lose anything even if SKT wins. You do if I'm reading this right: Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point** **This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match Roster, not lineup.
mai bad, other points still stand though.
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Is there a penalty for undoing trades? And can i trade again after the undo?
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On December 14 2012 06:55 AKRW wrote:
Is there a penalty for undoing trades? And can i trade again after the undo?
No penalty. Feel free
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Just traded JangBi for Action and Turn for Thorzain. Why did I pick Turn again? Oh yeah because Fionn said in his Preview that he's THE player to watch out for... and than he lost to 8_Speed and isn't even starting in the next game. I'll never trust you again Fionn. 
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On December 14 2012 04:10 TehV747 wrote:so i traded Jaehoon for Stephano Anti Team Classic for Mind EG.TL for KT Rolster No clue when Stephano is actually gonna end up coming to korea, i think classic should lose both his games but mind should win atleast 1, maybe 2 and KT should win both their series. Team is now + Show Spoiler +
Main Team
Bogus
Dear
Reality
Mind
Hyuk
Calm
KT Rolster
Anti Team
Bisu
Stephano
ZerO
What do you guys think?
Calm is now a playing coach for STX Soul, so I highly doubt he'll get any playing time (eg. HyuK is a playing coach for SKT as well, and see how little time he actually got to play last season and this season). You should trade him for someone else imo.
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All you newbies, no trade is for real men
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On December 14 2012 07:47 Tufas wrote:All you newbies, no trade is for real man
Hey now, I made only one trade and I'm a newbie. Close enough.
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On December 14 2012 07:48 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 07:47 Tufas wrote:All you newbies, no trade is for real man Hey now, I made only one trade and I'm a newbie. Close enough.
You only have to ask yourself one question ... do you want points, or do you want to be able to look yourself in the mirror each morning ? Trading is dirty. Don't even start. Its bad. Sleepless nights, nervously waiting for next week's lineups .. we have all been there. Its not worth it.
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Russian Federation32 Posts
My team
+ Show Spoiler +Main: Flash, Dear(c), Mind, Sang/Terminator, Zero, Last
Team - STX Souls.
Anti: Stephano, Thorzain, Shine
Traded Songduri for Mind (underrated, but there is danger that he might be only an Arkanoid sniper).
Also traded Stork for Stephano (no-brainer, but I think that Liquid Evil might be underrated after their first match).
I need to make 1 more trade and I can't decide. Hoping for some advice.
I think I need to trade Zero (my only zerg) or Sang/Terminator for someone (both most likely to get no points this week in my opinion).
Thought about Classic (OKish terran, in good team), Ryul2 (he impressed me in his previous games) or Speed (close in value and have one decent matchup tith week). But all of them have pretty tough opponents so I don't know.
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On December 14 2012 08:25 Novel wrote:My team + Show Spoiler +Main: Flash, Dear(c), Mind, Sang/Terminator, Zero, Last
Team - STX Souls.
Anti: Stephano, Thorzain, Shine Traded Songduri for Mind (underrated, but there is danger that he might be only an Arkanoid sniper). Also traded Stork for Stephano (no-brainer, but I think that Liquid Evil might be underrated after their first match). I need to make 1 more trade and I can't decide. Hoping for some advice. I think I need to trade Zero (my only zerg) or Sang/Terminator for someone (both most likely to get no points this week in my opinion). Thought about Classic (OKish terran, in good team), Ryul2 (he impressed me in his previous games) or Speed (close in value and have one decent matchup tith week). But all of them have pretty tough opponents so I don't know.
Don't forget that you must have at least one player of each race on your main team!
This means that you can trade Zero only for another zerg.
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On December 14 2012 08:25 Novel wrote:My team + Show Spoiler +Main: Flash, Dear(c), Mind, Sang/Terminator, Zero, Last
Team - STX Souls.
Anti: Stephano, Thorzain, Shine Traded Songduri for Mind (underrated, but there is danger that he might be only an Arkanoid sniper). Also traded Stork for Stephano (no-brainer, but I think that Liquid Evil might be underrated after their first match). I need to make 1 more trade and I can't decide. Hoping for some advice. I think I need to trade Zero (my only zerg) or Sang/Terminator for someone (both most likely to get no points this week in my opinion). Thought about Classic (OKish terran, in good team), Ryul2 (he impressed me in his previous games) or Speed (close in value and have one decent matchup tith week). But all of them have pretty tough opponents so I don't know.
I have ZerO and I'm keeping him. If you absolutely believe that you must trade him this week, go for either Shine or JYP. They are closest in value to him and have the best chances of winning at least one of their matches.
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On December 14 2012 07:44 [Violet]Bidong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 04:10 TehV747 wrote:so i traded Jaehoon for Stephano Anti Team Classic for Mind EG.TL for KT Rolster No clue when Stephano is actually gonna end up coming to korea, i think classic should lose both his games but mind should win atleast 1, maybe 2 and KT should win both their series. Team is now + Show Spoiler +
Main Team
Bogus
Dear
Reality
Mind
Hyuk
Calm
KT Rolster
Anti Team
Bisu
Stephano
ZerO
What do you guys think? Calm is now a playing coach for STX Soul, so I highly doubt he'll get any playing time (eg. HyuK is a playing coach for SKT as well, and see how little time he actually got to play last season and this season). You should trade him for someone else imo.
mmm yeah i am prbly going to trade out calm next time. the problem with hyuk is that he's so low their is no one good to trade him, i use him to balance out any time his team wins because ill get -1 from bisu and +1 from him.
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I traded EGTL for KT because I think the latter will more likely (and probably more convincingly) win their two next matches this week. And should EG-TL lose again, their trade value will sink below KT and the opportunity will be gone.
After  Stork surprised last week and yielded anti-points, I traded him for  Stephano in my anti team. Stork will pretty much always be fielded it seems and might even win. So I'm cutting my losses here and go with Stephano who -- because he isn't in Korea yet -- will only yield low anti-points if EG-TL win versus the other teams.
For my one other possible trade in main team, I decided to trade away  TurN instead of JangBi because the former majorly disappointed last week, gets the same matchup and map again this week, and only gets fielded once. JangBi is fielded twice, and if he loses, the points for losing and lineup will even out. If he or Samsung KHAN win this week despite my expectations, it means extra points so I'm not complaining. For TurN I got Mind who seems to be a sniper for the new terran-favored map Arkanoid, fielded last week for it and again twice this week (lineup points incoming). He's also on KT, so extra points for team wins are very likely.
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Putting Baby on anti was the dumbest move Ive ever made in FPL. I currently have Jaehoon -> Stephano as my anti team trade, but Im considering Baby -> Effort for anti since Effort plays in match 6 in both CJs matches, whereas Baby is guaranteed to play in both T8s.
Thoughts?
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does anyone know what happened to sea and light (wj stars)?
why are they not playing??
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Does anyone else think that allowing one to do both trades on the main team simultaneously would be a good idea? So for instance, a player worth 8 and a player worth 30 could be traded for a player worth 20 and a player worth 17 since 8+30>20+17.
This way it would actually be possible to trade for some of the more expensive players. Also, one would no longer be stuck with really low-ranked players since they could be traded along with a more expensive player for two medium players (as in the example above).
I guess it would make sense for the trade tax for this transaction to be 2.
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Guys consider if your anti doesnt play you still lose 1 point at least i did get a -1 for HuK last week. Also shouldnt i have gotten 1 point for Thorzain since he lost and was in my anti? Can someone clear this up please?
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On December 14 2012 13:34 AKRW wrote:Guys consider if your anti doesnt play you still lose 1 point at least i did get a -1 for HuK last week. Also shouldnt i have gotten 1 point for Thorzain since he lost and was in my anti? Can someone clear this up please?
Huk was +1 for getting a lineup appearance. He didn't play and lose so he couldn't lose that +1. +1 reversed = -1 for anti.
Thorzains points were +1 lineup appearance -1 loss. Which is Zero.
I've already made my little rant about how anti should be scored differently.
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