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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
November 01 2012 21:32 GMT
#41
Well it wasn't doing what it was intended for. Bring foreigners over to korea to play in GSL and lets see how good Foreigners are doing in GSL...
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 01 2012 21:34 GMT
#42
Meh, no surprise, it was only a matter of time. It wasn't entirely useless, but pretty close. At least we managed to get an epic episode of Kim Ik-Keun Goes! in the house before it finally closed down!
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
November 01 2012 21:37 GMT
#43
Hopefully that means no more GSL seeds to foreigners.
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DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
November 01 2012 21:39 GMT
#44
On November 02 2012 05:41 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 05:34 m3rciless wrote:
I don't know why it even opened in the first place. Best thing we ever got out of that place was lastshadow getting his shit rocked by some fatty

All of the worthwhile foreigners stayed in oGs house iirc


edit:
except wait did the foreigner world championship team stay there? Because white-ra stomping mc was one of my favorite moments in sc2.

I'd take a complete guess that they opened it to try and attract more foreigners to compete, since more foreigners equals more foreign viewers. Most of those using it have been significantly below GSL quality though, and those who did frequent GSL like Huk and Naniwa stayed in team houses.

It's just not nearly as good as a teamhouse and thus players staying there will generally be below GSL standard. If you're good enough for GSL your team can usually negotiate a team house to train in for you.

Thus, the GOM house is quite simply a money sink for GSL and is being cut. No drama needed. Sad that it didn't fill its purpose though
Nadacambia
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands142 Posts
November 01 2012 21:39 GMT
#45
On November 02 2012 05:33 Hazuc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 05:32 Zenbrez wrote:
On November 02 2012 05:27 Hazuc wrote:
We've got nothing but bad news since last month. I'm not so sure what to think anymore.

Nothing, but bad news? There has been a fair bit of good stuff too. No need to be so negative.


Like what? I'd like to know.


You really are one fucking pathetic dramawhore
Stephano Grubby!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 21:44:53
November 01 2012 21:42 GMT
#46
On November 02 2012 05:31 Hazuc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 05:30 whatevername wrote:
Lol why are the first few posts so pessimistic and melodramatic, you realize hardly anyone ever used the Gom house and it was universally considered pointless? You couldnt get quality practice there. It was just a stop gap measure if you were in korea briefly...


So what? It's still a bad news. It clearly shows that there are problems with SC2 right now.

The SC2 scene was purposely oversaturated with leagues, teams and players. It was done so that as many people as possible would have a shot at doing things their way the best they could. The expectation was that there would be competition and the best would survive. This downsizing isn't indicative of a problem at all. I'm not sure how you think it's clearly a problem in this context. I guess you didn't know the context and weren't able to imagine it. I think three major leagues (out of IPL MLG OSL GSL DH) could completely shut down and SC2 would still be doing great. And aside from those, there are still so many supplementary events that are major but irregular or are just on the cusp of being major (NASL, TSL, ESL, HSC, Iron Squid, Blizzard's tournaments, TeSPA tournaments, Red Bull events, etc). Even if the supplementary events slim down there'd still be a good number of them.

So just chill.

edit: I don't know what makes a league major or not. I'm not gonna spend time worrying about whether I classified them correctly so I hope no one from those leagues takes offense. If I didn't say your league was major, I'm sorry, just chill bro.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
November 01 2012 21:42 GMT
#47
Reddit are saying that this means GSL will be dead within a year.

I'm not even joking
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
November 01 2012 21:44 GMT
#48
GOM has been trying really hard to get non-Koreans to play in their league, and the GOM house was a part of it. The house obviously wasn't doing what it was supposed to do though as GSL is now 100% Koreans (or am I missing somebody), and it almost entirely housed only people who didn't really have a shot at entering GSL.

It would make sense at this point that they would close it and use that money for better purposes.
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
November 01 2012 21:44 GMT
#49
you all people can say all you want about gomhouse but when i was theere i got alot better and when i found i was really sad about this cause i wanted to go back there
Progamer
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
November 01 2012 21:47 GMT
#50
On November 02 2012 06:42 Exarl25 wrote:
Reddit are saying that this means GSL will be dead within a year.

I'm not even joking


One guy implies that => "Reddit ARE saying that this means GSL will be dead within a year."

Come on...
My heart aches with pain, When I see you I vomit, Die away from me
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 01 2012 21:48 GMT
#51
On November 02 2012 06:42 Exarl25 wrote:
Reddit are saying that this means GSL will be dead within a year.

I'm not even joking


Yet more reason why Reddit is sort of worthless when it comes to these subjects and should be ignored. It is filled with people who wait for new like this and jump on it to say that SC2 is dead, or to try and get someone fired over the latest drama.
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 21:50:48
November 01 2012 21:49 GMT
#52
Wasn't the gom house meant to be a foreign training house for players in the GSL to come and live/train in, that never really happened. Yes we had a few players there for short periods but none of them stayed in the GSL long.

I believe Gomsnowbird used to live there as well?? He moved back to Germany, could be another reason.

I would say the money can be better spent on Gom's part, no big deal. I'm sure Kaldor will be fine and GOM doesn't have to look after Naniwa.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 23:19:43
November 01 2012 21:58 GMT
#53
Considering that most of the good foreign teams/players now seem to have partnerships or at least friendships with Korean teams, I guess it's not as necessary anymore.

Semi-relevant but funny:
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
November 01 2012 22:02 GMT
#54
On November 02 2012 05:31 Hazuc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 05:30 whatevername wrote:
Lol why are the first few posts so pessimistic and melodramatic, you realize hardly anyone ever used the Gom house and it was universally considered pointless? You couldnt get quality practice there. It was just a stop gap measure if you were in korea briefly...


So what? It's still a bad news. It clearly shows that there are problems with SC2 right now.


I don't think that you can measure the succes of e-sport based on the number of empty houses owned by companies afiliated with e-sports
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 22:06:43
November 01 2012 22:06 GMT
#55
Maybe this is why Moletrap really left Korea?

Unless he wasn't living in the house anymore -_- since he was with Kespa
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
November 01 2012 22:07 GMT
#56
The thing with the GOM house is that no foreigner wants to live in the GOM house unless they have no other option. The GOM house has the reputation of being really awful for practice. The people who stayed in the GOM house never really improved at all. They stagnated in skill, and they weren't able to do anything more productive.

Now with GSL not having any foreigner in it. It just seems like more of a waste to GOM
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
November 01 2012 22:07 GMT
#57
On November 02 2012 06:44 ROOTMajOr wrote:
you all people can say all you want about gomhouse but when i was theere i got alot better and when i found i was really sad about this cause i wanted to go back there


:/

Would TSL let you stay with them again?
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 22:12:59
November 01 2012 22:12 GMT
#58
On November 02 2012 07:07 Fishriot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 06:44 ROOTMajOr wrote:
you all people can say all you want about gomhouse but when i was theere i got alot better and when i found i was really sad about this cause i wanted to go back there


:/

Would TSL let you stay with them again?

I think the foreign teams have to find a spot with partner teams to accomodate their players, shouldn't be too hard. The only problem is with teamless pros, but even then there might be a Korean team willing to take them in for a fee (was GOM house completely free? there was probably a small fee required as well, no?). Now, if you are teamless and unpopular with Koreans, then you might have a problem (*cough*Nani*cough*).
Get off my lawn, young punks
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
November 01 2012 22:15 GMT
#59
Stephano moves into GOM house, GOM house closes.




CURSED
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
November 01 2012 22:28 GMT
#60
On November 02 2012 06:11 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 06:04 eXigent. wrote:
On November 02 2012 05:27 Hazuc wrote:
We've got nothing but bad news since last month. I'm not so sure what to think anymore.


Think whatever you want, its most likely wrong. Broodwar had like less than 10% of the events SC2 currently has running, and it stayed popular for 5-7 years like that. Things naturally end, and new things take their place. Having a single foreigner house shut down that is not even being used right now has nothing to do with SC2 taking a negative hit. Stop reading soo closely into things.

This isn't necessarily what he means. No need to start a game vs game debate.


Why would my comment stir up a game debate? All im saying is if it's predecessor has had success amidst a stagnant tournament scene, then the simple fact that GOM is shutting down their foreigner house is extremely minor to the overall outcome of future events and popularity regarding SC2. The fact that you read my post and assumed I was comparing games in a way that may pit them against each other is ludicrous and extremely poor in understanding.

Starcraft 2 is soo chalk full of events and tournaments that its currently impossible to even enter them all. That is definitely not a sign of a dwindling game.
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