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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 02 2012 10:54 GMT
#161
I remember the closing was being discussed almost a year ago (at the time the word was it would probably close around october iirc), simply because most of the top tier non-koreans who came over were staying in various team houses anyway...
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
November 02 2012 11:00 GMT
#162
On November 02 2012 13:14 bokeevboke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 12:54 Integra wrote:
On November 02 2012 12:51 bokeevboke wrote:
On November 02 2012 12:48 Integra wrote:
On November 02 2012 12:42 bokeevboke wrote:
On November 02 2012 11:21 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 02 2012 11:11 Dispersion wrote:
Most Koreans I talk to have basically dismissed SC2 as a competitive sport. Once Brood War died, they moved to League. All the PC bangs advertise League instead of SC2.


Super relevant post about the GOM house tt


It actually is. Don't try to find excuses.

If sc2 was growing, more people would be moving into gom house (foreginers and koreans from other cities).

Didn't you watch the video? The reason why they are thinking about closing the GOM house (they haven't actually closed it yet, they are still thinking about it) is because the people who came over treated it as a vacation. They didn't really use the house to actually practice.


Why they don't practice? Have you thought about it?

Nice Strawman.


Hehe, I had to google that word. My point wasn't actually a strawman. I wasn't misinterpreting your opinion, instead I was asking you to develop your idea, which would bring you to the same point where I am.

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On November 02 2012 13:08 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Come on guys... There are practically no foreign players to contest in GSL anyways. It was a home for no one anymore.

what about koreans who live in other cities?

I guess there are none :D
The heart's eternal vow
juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
November 02 2012 11:10 GMT
#163
On November 02 2012 19:54 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I remember the closing was being discussed almost a year ago (at the time the word was it would probably close around october iirc), simply because most of the top tier non-koreans who came over were staying in various team houses anyway...


Makes sense since GOM isn't really bringing over foreigners to compete for GSL and will continue supporting Kespa players before making accommodations for many foreigners. It is true that all top non-koreans go to team houses that are developed and are probably better for their training. GOM house was a early innovative thing they did and it helped globalize the scene a bit more but now its up to the community and blizzard to grow
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
November 02 2012 11:16 GMT
#164
On November 02 2012 05:31 Hazuc wrote:
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On November 02 2012 05:30 whatevername wrote:
Lol why are the first few posts so pessimistic and melodramatic, you realize hardly anyone ever used the Gom house and it was universally considered pointless? You couldnt get quality practice there. It was just a stop gap measure if you were in korea briefly...


So what? It's still a bad news. It clearly shows that there are problems with SC2 right now.

Why is it problems with sc2? the game is the best rts out stop comparing us to moba, we will never be as big as a team game T.T people these days... maybe it should be better if sc2 was small but all the ones who were whining about that this game sucks should go away...
''you got to yolo things up to win''
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
November 02 2012 11:26 GMT
#165
lolwat..
T H C makes ppl happy
Darkong
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
November 02 2012 12:04 GMT
#166
The people thinking this is a sign that the sky is falling need to activate their brains a bit.

It was to give a place for non-Koreans to stay, but now most of the time when foreign teams want to send a player(s) to Korea they enter into a partnership with a Korea based team so their player can stay and train with them, ergo the GOM house becomes less necessary. Yeah it sucks for the couple of people staying there but if it's not getting used then it's not financially worthwhile to keep something going, the money can be better spent otherwise.

Get a grip people.
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Beyond Magic
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland130 Posts
November 02 2012 12:22 GMT
#167
im still very grateful to gom for having this gom house for so long, without it i dont think we would have seen that many foreigners in gsl over the years, one of the most reason ones being mana in code S
gg
Khanz
Profile Joined April 2010
France214 Posts
November 02 2012 12:27 GMT
#168
On November 02 2012 21:04 Darkong wrote:
The people thinking this is a sign that the sky is falling need to activate their brains a bit.

It was to give a place for non-Koreans to stay, but now most of the time when foreign teams want to send a player(s) to Korea they enter into a partnership with a Korea based team so their player can stay and train with them, ergo the GOM house becomes less necessary. Yeah it sucks for the couple of people staying there but if it's not getting used then it's not financially worthwhile to keep something going, the money can be better spent otherwise.

Get a grip people.


lol starcraft 2 is dying slowly, but you'll get there don't worry.
Don't worry, zombies eat brains. You're safe
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 02 2012 12:50 GMT
#169
On November 02 2012 19:54 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I remember the closing was being discussed almost a year ago (at the time the word was it would probably close around october iirc), simply because most of the top tier non-koreans who came over were staying in various team houses anyway...

I always thought this was strange as well; The GOM house made sense before when it was actually being used. Feels like it's become more or less a frat house now, not that surprised they are shutting it down.
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 02 2012 14:30 GMT
#170
Just think about it. Stephano gets grounded by EG, goes to the GOM house to train in Korea, meanwhile turning down the Code S seed offered to him for the umpteenth time. Why should GOM pay the bill for the training of a player who has no interest in competing in their tournament?

This is just one example.

Why should GOM pay the bill for a player like Desrow, who has no reasonable chance of ever qualifying or competing in GSL, so he can train and live there for free?

The house rarely served its intended purpose, it's normal that they don't want to continue it.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 02 2012 14:34 GMT
#171
On November 02 2012 21:04 Darkong wrote:
The people thinking this is a sign that the sky is falling need to activate their brains a bit.

It was to give a place for non-Koreans to stay, but now most of the time when foreign teams want to send a player(s) to Korea they enter into a partnership with a Korea based team so their player can stay and train with them, ergo the GOM house becomes less necessary. Yeah it sucks for the couple of people staying there but if it's not getting used then it's not financially worthwhile to keep something going, the money can be better spent otherwise.

Get a grip people.


Hey, I activated my brain yesterday and it has a long cooldown. Not my fault!
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 02 2012 14:39 GMT
#172
So Stephano is a homeless dude now?!
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gruntrush
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada134 Posts
November 02 2012 15:04 GMT
#173
On November 02 2012 23:39 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
So Stephano is a homeless dude now?!

at least he looks the part
Don't worry, That's halo
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
November 02 2012 15:07 GMT
#174
sad
Jaedong <3
NotoriousBig
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Germany301 Posts
November 02 2012 15:09 GMT
#175
it´s because there are not many pros in korea right now, who aren´t living in a team house, so it doesn´t make sense anymore to run the gom house (i don´t remember any pro living in korea, but not in a team house right now.)
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
November 02 2012 15:33 GMT
#176
On November 02 2012 05:27 eleaf wrote:
Isnt Stephano in the Gom house right now?


Yes. And unfortunately now he cannot get out.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
November 02 2012 15:49 GMT
#177
Can't say I'm surprised, GOM made a $1500/month investment in foreign players, and not a single player from the house could even get through the Code A qualifiers. To me, the GOM house sounds like a failure, and foreigners are better off going to a Korean team house.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
November 02 2012 16:09 GMT
#178
On November 03 2012 00:33 Kilby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 05:27 eleaf wrote:
Isnt Stephano in the Gom house right now?


Yes. And unfortunately now he cannot get out.

^^
Seriously though, Stephano is playing ESWC in paris right now.
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
November 02 2012 17:25 GMT
#179
On November 03 2012 00:49 Iodem wrote:
Can't say I'm surprised, GOM made a $1500/month investment in foreign players, and not a single player from the house could even get through the Code A qualifiers. To me, the GOM house sounds like a failure, and foreigners are better off going to a Korean team house.

Except for, y'know, naniwa and mana.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 02 2012 17:44 GMT
#180
On November 03 2012 02:25 Brawny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 00:49 Iodem wrote:
Can't say I'm surprised, GOM made a $1500/month investment in foreign players, and not a single player from the house could even get through the Code A qualifiers. To me, the GOM house sounds like a failure, and foreigners are better off going to a Korean team house.

Except for, y'know, naniwa and mana.


They got seeds, didn't actually qualify..
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