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Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
November 01 2012 05:58 GMT
#201
TERRIBLE TERRIBLE D..ecision making...

I hope he gets slapped down HARD in MLG just to slap kespa in the face
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
November 01 2012 05:58 GMT
#202
On November 01 2012 14:55 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:52 jmbthirteen wrote:
How does Rain forfeiting his Code S spot benefit Kespa at all btw? Less exposure for them. Less chance to win with their best player out of the tournament.


Well, I'm guessing they're targeting a large foreign fanbase now that SC2 hasn't taken off so quickly in Korea. From a business standpoint, going to MLG is logical but somewhat risky because if Rain gets taken out during the Open Bracket, it would be really embarrassing for both Kespa and SKT.

Kespa is already sending 4 guys to MLG, Flash included. They will be the talk of the town regardless of Rain being there or not.
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Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:59:26
November 01 2012 05:58 GMT
#203
At least RAIN is still in the OSL.

*burp*
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
November 01 2012 05:58 GMT
#204
Holly shit people dont even look at this through Rains eyes. First of all the kid already plays for SKT1 I dont even think 80% of SCII only fans know what that means and maybe people need to wake up and figure that GSL, OSL even Starcraft itself isnt the most important thing to these guys. This is not like Federer forfeiting Wimbledon to play some invitational in China. This kid is like 18 years old, probably has never been out of Korea, Fantasy and Bisu went to blizzcon im sure they shared their experiences with their teammates. Why wouldn't a kid like that take the opportunity to travel to America, If it was the other way around and I was stuck In Canada my whole life, I dont see why I wouldn't take a trip like this to Korea or somewhere in Europe. The GSL and OSL will be around in the future, and yes so will trips to MLG, but Rain probably looked at that and choose that at this time he would rather go and experience a trip to America.
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 01 2012 05:58 GMT
#205
On November 01 2012 14:55 tuho12345 wrote:
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On November 01 2012 14:54 opterown wrote:
quick, seed yonghwa tonight

oh shit, fuck yeah they totally do that.

Oh my, that's brilliant.
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Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 06:01:06
November 01 2012 05:59 GMT
#206
GODDamn it, I was soooo looking forward to watching the ro16 group selection with all the Kespa and ESF players. At least Soukey made it...

O yeah... my LiquidBet is fucking RUINED

On the other hand, so excited to watch Rain clash with destroy foreigners.
coldasice
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia208 Posts
November 01 2012 05:59 GMT
#207
Would be funny if Rain doesn't get out of the open brackets.
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
November 01 2012 05:59 GMT
#208
On November 01 2012 14:57 Fionn wrote:
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On November 01 2012 14:55 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:53 paddyz wrote:

Imagine the reaction if a foreigner left code S to play through the open bracket of MLG

Well Stephano dodges Code S every season to "compete" in winnable tournaments.


True, but this is if Stephano told GOM he was going to play, got seeded into Code S, and then went, 'Hey, can I go play at this foreign tournament?' two days before his match.

Stephano always has the decency to decline.

Yes, people with bad moral and professional character are treated differently. More news at eleven.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 01 2012 05:59 GMT
#209
look on the bright side: no zvp tonight
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malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
November 01 2012 06:00 GMT
#210
He did mention he is not worried about money right now

being stuck in korea and asia all the time must get old

I would take the chance to go to dallas too If i were him
dumchu
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 01 2012 06:00 GMT
#211
On November 01 2012 14:59 Zenniv wrote:
GODDamn it, I was soooo looking forward to watching the ro16 group selection with all the Kespa and ESF players. At least Soukey made it...

O yeah... my LiquidBet is fucking RUINED


TL will most likely make it 0 points.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
November 01 2012 06:00 GMT
#212
On November 01 2012 14:56 figq wrote:
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On November 01 2012 14:52 jmbthirteen wrote:
How does Rain forfeiting his Code S spot benefit Kespa at all btw? Less exposure for them. Less chance to win with their best player out of the tournament.
Kespa/OGN/OSL > ESF/GOM/GSL
Kespa have done this in the past too, in BW, pulling players out, in order to diminish a league/TV importance.
Rain just won OSL, a tournament of mixed Kespa and ESF players, so he is the current best player. By leaving GSL he makes GSL look less legitimate than the OSL.

then why not pull out all the players? why not say he wont play his Code A match either? No one actually thinks GSL is less legitimate than OSL. Even Kespa players know they are still behind overall. They've even said so.
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
November 01 2012 06:01 GMT
#213
Idra had no problem with GOM because he noticed them way before his matches were played.

어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
November 01 2012 06:01 GMT
#214
This is quite disappointing that Rain is forfeiting his Code S spot, especially since he performed so well last season. Oh well, hope he has a successful MLG. Sad, sad, sad
Decado
Profile Joined October 2012
United States42 Posts
November 01 2012 06:02 GMT
#215
On November 01 2012 14:45 X3GoldDot wrote:
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On November 01 2012 14:44 Decado wrote:
He was forced to play in the GSL anyway because of the crybaby ESF players.

He gave Gom what they wanted. He played a season, performed outstandingly, and got them viewers. He can ditch them if he wants.


lol, id like to see you cry when all ESF players ditch OSL


why would I cry if a tournament got better?
cristo el redentor
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
November 01 2012 06:03 GMT
#216
On November 01 2012 14:59 opterown wrote:
look on the bright side: no zvp tonight

A terran will advance and everything is balanced again :D
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mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 01 2012 06:03 GMT
#217
On November 01 2012 15:01 mongmong wrote:
Idra had no problem with GOM because he noticed them way before his matches were played.



Yeah and he even got a special montage or whatever too!
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
November 01 2012 06:03 GMT
#218
On November 01 2012 15:02 Decado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:45 X3GoldDot wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:44 Decado wrote:
He was forced to play in the GSL anyway because of the crybaby ESF players.

He gave Gom what they wanted. He played a season, performed outstandingly, and got them viewers. He can ditch them if he wants.


lol, id like to see you cry when all ESF players ditch OSL


why would I cry if a tournament got better?

I see what you are doing
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 01 2012 06:03 GMT
#219
On November 01 2012 15:00 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:56 figq wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:52 jmbthirteen wrote:
How does Rain forfeiting his Code S spot benefit Kespa at all btw? Less exposure for them. Less chance to win with their best player out of the tournament.
Kespa/OGN/OSL > ESF/GOM/GSL
Kespa have done this in the past too, in BW, pulling players out, in order to diminish a league/TV importance.
Rain just won OSL, a tournament of mixed Kespa and ESF players, so he is the current best player. By leaving GSL he makes GSL look less legitimate than the OSL.

then why not pull out all the players? why not say he wont play his Code A match either? No one actually thinks GSL is less legitimate than OSL. Even Kespa players know they are still behind overall. They've even said so.
That's why they only pull Rain - because he IS successful enough right now to make Code S without him not legitimate.

The saddest part is that Rain himself is definitely f'd. He's most likely getting f'd at MLG too. And objectively right now he might be the best SC2 player, but these political games would sacrifice him for the greater goal.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
November 01 2012 06:04 GMT
#220
People need to note and remember that SKT1 literally told GOM about this two days ago. That's the main reason I think this isn't just a simple schedule conflict, this is an intentional effort by someone to screw up the GSL. What's the excuse otherwise? "oh yeah we totally forgot about his date in the most important SC2 tournament, silly us!" I don't think so...
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
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