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Rain forfeits GSL Code S spot in favor of MLG. - Page 9

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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:47:57
November 01 2012 05:47 GMT
#161
On November 01 2012 14:45 Waxangel wrote:
if I had to TRY to read into the statement, GomTV tries to guide the blame more towards SKT management than the player himself, food for thought


Wax, how long have you followed bw? You know this wasn't Rain's decision. This is 100% Kespa's decision. Gom knows it's not Rain's fault. He's just following orders.
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
November 01 2012 05:47 GMT
#162
On November 01 2012 14:45 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:45 X3GoldDot wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:41 GolemMadness wrote:
Why are people so pissed at Rain? What's wrong with you? There's absolutely no evidence that this is his fault so far.


noone is pissed at rain, most people are pissed at kespa because of this.


Plenty of people are posting saying that they hope he gets knocked out of MLG in the open bracket.


those are mostly Rain haters using this as an excuse, noone with a straight mind and unbiased view will blame rain for this
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 01 2012 05:47 GMT
#163
On November 01 2012 14:45 Waxangel wrote:
if I had to TRY to read into the statement, GomTV tries to guide the blame more towards SKT management than the player himself, food for thought

ie) all decisions/communications are described as coming from SKT's side


This is an interesting point. I wonder who really made the mistake here.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
November 01 2012 05:48 GMT
#164
On November 01 2012 14:45 Waxangel wrote:
if I had to TRY to read into the statement, GomTV tries to guide the blame more towards SKT management than the player himself, food for thought

ie) all decisions/communications are described as coming from SKT's side

Well pardon me for saying, but that doesn't exclude the possibility that the original "suggestion" came from KESPA to SKT.
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drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
November 01 2012 05:48 GMT
#165
On November 01 2012 14:47 Trashman420 wrote:
Can you just keep your pitchforks in your garages for the moment? This isn't even a big deal.


I... What. I don't even know what to say to this.

I wasn't even going to post in this thread but I can't believe someone say that forfeiting a GSL code S seed isn't a big deal. What are you even thinking?!
iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
November 01 2012 05:49 GMT
#166
On November 01 2012 14:39 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:36 iamcaustic wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:28 Fionn wrote:
Thing is, if Rain really wanted to go to MLG Dallas, why didn't he inform anyone sooner? It's just weird. Do you think he woke up one morning, saw a cowboy hat outside his window, and went, 'Damn, I really wanna go to Dallas now!' If he wanted to play in the open bracket so badly, he could have told GOM a few days before and probably switched his group to one of the last. I'm curious if Polt asked for his group to be early or late so he could go to MLG or if it just worked out that way.

I think I remember reading days ago that he wanted to attend. Wouldn't be surprised if Rain hoped to qualify via the MvP invitational and, after he was knocked out on the 21st, approached SKT1 with his desire to attend. Add a few days of KeSPA/GOM looking for a way to make the schedule work, and you more or less end up in the present.

Naturally I'm speculating a bit, but I don't think there's some nefarious plot going on by anyone.


Rain got knocked out on the 21st. The gom statement says Kespa only informed Gom of his decision to attend on the 29th, which is clearly not enough time to reschedule, since you would be moving players up who thought they were playing next week on such short notice.

Yes, I said all this. I said Rain was knocked out on the 21st, and to add a few days for schedule checking (i.e. 29th, 30th, 31st) and you end up at the present. It was only a week between Rain's being knocked out and SKT1's request to GOM. We don't have any details as to when Rain first approached SKT1 about his desire to attend the open bracket. For all we know, he could have sat on it for a few days before deciding to give it a serious shot.

Either way, it's not like we're dealing with KeSPA withholding this information for weeks just to screw GOM over or something.
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las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
November 01 2012 05:49 GMT
#167
Oh hai Kespa didn't see you there for all of a GSL Season. Welcome back and good luck have fun! (-.-)
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2012 05:49 GMT
#168
On November 01 2012 14:44 Decado wrote:
He was forced to play in the GSL anyway because of the crybaby ESF players.

He gave Gom what they wanted. He played a season, performed outstandingly, and got them viewers. He can ditch them if he wants.


OH NO RAIN WAS FORCED TO PLAY A GAME HE IS PRO AT AND WON $4,500! SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE!
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
November 01 2012 05:49 GMT
#169
On November 01 2012 14:47 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:45 Waxangel wrote:
if I had to TRY to read into the statement, GomTV tries to guide the blame more towards SKT management than the player himself, food for thought

ie) all decisions/communications are described as coming from SKT's side


This is an interesting point. I wonder who really made the mistake here.


Well, the team certainly made things awkward when they waited until the 29th to ask for a reschedule. It's also possible they had no idea he was even going to have a chance to go to MLG until then, though. This whole situation just seems like a case of unfortunate timing, too many things coming together all at once, and something had to give.
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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
November 01 2012 05:49 GMT
#170
On November 01 2012 14:47 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:45 GolemMadness wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:45 X3GoldDot wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:41 GolemMadness wrote:
Why are people so pissed at Rain? What's wrong with you? There's absolutely no evidence that this is his fault so far.


noone is pissed at rain, most people are pissed at kespa because of this.


Plenty of people are posting saying that they hope he gets knocked out of MLG in the open bracket.


those are mostly Rain haters using this as an excuse, noone with a straight mind and unbiased view will blame rain for this

LOL

who the fuck are rain haters? people really hate the best protoss in the world? maybe they are mad that him or his team just fucked over the GSL
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 01 2012 05:50 GMT
#171
Thinking with a clear head, I guess it's fair to say that this was either SKT management's or Kespa's fault. Hope Rain doesn't get too much of the blame. Instead, I hope he plays with a clear head and wins MLG anyway.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
November 01 2012 05:50 GMT
#172
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the KeSPA/MLG "exclusivity" deal. Might that preclude a KeSPA player from attending the GSL finals, at IPL? Just an idea...

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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
November 01 2012 05:50 GMT
#173
On November 01 2012 14:49 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:44 Decado wrote:
He was forced to play in the GSL anyway because of the crybaby ESF players.

He gave Gom what they wanted. He played a season, performed outstandingly, and got them viewers. He can ditch them if he wants.


OH NO RAIN WAS FORCED TO PLAY A GAME HE IS PRO AT AND WON $4,500! SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE!

I think you may be... insincere.
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DreamTheaterFan
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada52 Posts
November 01 2012 05:50 GMT
#174
Somebody forgot to tell Rain he's likely to meet combatex in the open bracket...
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 01 2012 05:50 GMT
#175
On November 01 2012 14:49 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:44 Decado wrote:
He was forced to play in the GSL anyway because of the crybaby ESF players.

He gave Gom what they wanted. He played a season, performed outstandingly, and got them viewers. He can ditch them if he wants.


OH NO RAIN WAS FORCED TO PLAY A GAME HE IS PRO AT AND WON $4,500! SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE!

Hahaha Fionn.
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 01 2012 05:51 GMT
#176
On November 01 2012 14:49 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:47 X3GoldDot wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:45 GolemMadness wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:45 X3GoldDot wrote:
On November 01 2012 14:41 GolemMadness wrote:
Why are people so pissed at Rain? What's wrong with you? There's absolutely no evidence that this is his fault so far.


noone is pissed at rain, most people are pissed at kespa because of this.


Plenty of people are posting saying that they hope he gets knocked out of MLG in the open bracket.


those are mostly Rain haters using this as an excuse, noone with a straight mind and unbiased view will blame rain for this

LOL

who the fuck are rain haters? people really hate the best protoss in the world? maybe they are mad that him or his team just fucked over the GSL


Well, there were Flash haters back in the day. It's not unreasonable to think there are Rain haters too.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
November 01 2012 05:51 GMT
#177
My LIQUIBET T_T
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:54:45
November 01 2012 05:51 GMT
#178
edit - nvm it is his team`s decision....ugh.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 01 2012 05:51 GMT
#179
On November 01 2012 14:44 Decado wrote:
He was forced to play in the GSL anyway because of the crybaby ESF players.

He gave Gom what they wanted. He played a season, performed outstandingly, and got them viewers. He can ditch them if he wants.


Nice troll account.
Trashman420
Profile Joined September 2012
232 Posts
November 01 2012 05:52 GMT
#180
On November 01 2012 14:48 drazak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:47 Trashman420 wrote:
Can you just keep your pitchforks in your garages for the moment? This isn't even a big deal.


I... What. I don't even know what to say to this.

I wasn't even going to post in this thread but I can't believe someone say that forfeiting a GSL code S seed isn't a big deal. What are you even thinking?!

That it isn't a big deal ^_^
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