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Crank and MMA's accounts regarding SlayerS - Page 91
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BoB_KiLLeR
Spain620 Posts
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Fjodorov
5007 Posts
Jessica was the manager and she obviously failed at managing the team. Its her job to make sure that problems and conflicts are dealt with but she failed. It looks like the team couldnt support itself financially either which is hardly Cranks fault. If all of this happened during the course of a week then maybe I could cut Jessica som slack, but it didnt. I dont care which player said what or was feeling upset because it should be dealt with in one way or the other, if its not then the management needs to change. Btw, who the f*** records conversations? Crank didnt even have a contract but they bother with recording conversations? | ||
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote: Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast. Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have his own view rather than respecting other people's views. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote: Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast. I would say that westerner place more emphasize on leader's responsibility to get the team through the hardship, notice and fix the problem within the team in a timely manner before things go spirally downward pass the point of no return. Jessica failed to do these, so in westerner's eyes, she fails as a team manager. Korean on the other hand strongly emphasize on obeying elders and if players/employees fail to do, then it their fault. I would say big corporate culture difference. | ||
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:33 Fjodorov wrote: Btw, who the f*** records conversations? Crank didnt even have a contract but they bother with recording conversations? Recording conversation or not isn't relevant. It already showed that with hard evidence, people can still make big drama out of it, imagine without these hard evidence, people can easily bend and twist the story. | ||
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Daelgar
Poland25 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:28 Shival wrote: I agree with this mostly. I think it would be best if we all just agree to disagree on all the players and Jessica and stop harping about any of that. Just stop it all, no Jessica is right, Jessica is wrong (or worse). Lets bring the matter to Mr. J if we want to discuss or rage about anything. Shival are you beeing paid by Jessica or something? Im asking couse u answer to every single negative opinion about her, which leads to even more discustion, which leads to even more drama on forums. Or you are that type of guy that has to have the last word? 90+ pages of text that doesnt change anything, Team Slayers is gone, deal with it. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:42 Veldril wrote: I would say that westerner place more emphasize on leader's responsibility to get the team through the hardship, notice and fix the problem within the team in a timely manner before things go spirally downward pass the point of no return. Jessica failed to do these, so in westerner's eyes, she fails as a team manager. Korean on the other hand strongly emphasize on obeying elders and if players/employees fail to do, then it their fault. I would say big corporate culture difference. Lol nope obeying elders part is correct, but the remaining sentence is just pure garbage. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:44 Daelgar wrote: Shival are you beeing paid by Jessica or something? Im asking couse u answer to every single negative opinion about her, which leads to even more discustion, which leads to even more drama on forums. Or you are that type of guy that has to have the last word? 90+ pages of text that doesnt change anything, Team Slayers is gone, deal with it. Didn't he just agree to (hopefully) switch topic to Manager J? Maybe it's just me, but i got that "vibe". | ||
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Prevolved
United States573 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:44 mongmong wrote: Lol nope obeying elders part is correct, but the remaining sentence is just pure garbage. What's garbage is you labeling the majority of a race as self-centered and biased. In fact, stating this makes you biased and self-centered. | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:44 mongmong wrote: Lol nope obeying elders part is correct, but the remaining sentence is just pure garbage. Obey all your elders? Or just your Korean elders? | ||
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Noc-
Finland850 Posts
Choi: I am just sad about the way Jessica thinks. I don't even think I can join a good foreign team. She thinks I made the group leave the team. Boxer: You know her style. If you fight back she is going to have a fight to the death. You don't seem to stay quiet. Q: Are you thinking about releasing the audio file if needed? A: If I need to sue him on the court, I may need to release it. Q: If Crank apologizes, will you stop this issue? A: Yes. I will end it once there is an apology. Jesus christ, her ego is just waaaay too big. I could paste like 10000 more quotes of how joke she is(+ all the twitter fights and crap). It feels like she is just threatening everyone all the time like a little baby. Then saying she needs to protect her and the teams image, well that makes it look just worse. Please Jessica, stay away from esports for the rest of your life. We dont need you here as a drama queen. Players and Jessica are just saying so other things and opinions. But knowing how big Jessica's ego is, how "she is never wrong" and generally her personality = all she says = bullshit and trying to look good, only trying to save her own ass. RIP SlayerS, sad it had to go like this. I hope MMA, Crank and others will be in a good team and start showing some awesome results. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8230 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote: Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have his own view rather than respecting other people's views. As a Chinese, TB has a point with what he said. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On October 24 2012 08:01 geokilla wrote: As a Chinese, TB has a point with what he said. As a Chinese myself, I do believe that if one team's condition is much better than the counterparts of the same surrounding environment, whining should definitely be looked down upon by the aforementioned societal environment and rightly so. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On October 24 2012 08:10 Xiphos wrote: As a Chinese myself, I do believe that if one team's condition is much better than the counterparts of the same surrounding environment, whining should definitely be looked down upon by the aforementioned societal environment and rightly so. I think it might be possible that the team's situation and environment went downhill by a lot more than it looked after Slayers lost two sponsors. So yeah, we really don't know what is the situation during the mid-late 2012. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote: Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have his own view rather than respecting other people's views. And jessica respects other peoples views? All she's been doing is spewing out her crap to bring down everyone that she ever had a problem with before she leaves the esports scene forever. She's already been caught misrepresenting information and showing "proof" that was out of context and she just ignores it and continues with her smear campaign. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
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Penev
28475 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote: Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have his own view rather than respecting other people's views. If this isn't racist I don't know what is. The differences that are being discussed are cultural; not ethnic. You know, some of the people commenting here are both not East Asian nor European. | ||
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Ghola
United States55 Posts
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote: Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have his own view rather than respecting other people's views. lol racism. So tell me again how siding with the players when I have no personal stake in their careers or the outcome of this drama makes me selfish. I'd really like to know. | ||
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Jaedong4thOSL
United States487 Posts
On October 24 2012 08:21 askTeivospy wrote: sometimes I get ashamed when I think the drama is more exciting than games >< Don't be, most of us do at the beginning. Just remember, drama will get old, but pursuing perfect in game play will never be. | ||
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