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BoB_KiLLeR
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain620 Posts
October 23 2012 22:32 GMT
#1801
Translated Phone call!

http://www.esfiworld.com/news/translated-crank-boxer-and-jessicas-phone-call
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 23 2012 22:33 GMT
#1802
Crank and Jessica are not equals in this drama. Crank was a player in a team with out a contract and Jessica was the manager. Crank did make an effort to talk to members of the team about improving the atmosphere but seems like nobody listened. If he has lied about his reasons for leaving the team after nothing happened then fine with me. It seems to me like Crank was doing more than he shoud need to to try to help the team.

Jessica was the manager and she obviously failed at managing the team. Its her job to make sure that problems and conflicts are dealt with but she failed. It looks like the team couldnt support itself financially either which is hardly Cranks fault. If all of this happened during the course of a week then maybe I could cut Jessica som slack, but it didnt. I dont care which player said what or was feeling upset because it should be dealt with in one way or the other, if its not then the management needs to change.

Btw, who the f*** records conversations? Crank didnt even have a contract but they bother with recording conversations?
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
October 23 2012 22:36 GMT
#1803
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.
Leenock the Punisher
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 22:43:03
October 23 2012 22:42 GMT
#1804
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.



Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works

in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have

his own view rather than respecting other people's views.




어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
October 23 2012 22:42 GMT
#1805
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.


I would say that westerner place more emphasize on leader's responsibility to get the team through the hardship, notice and fix the problem within the team in a timely manner before things go spirally downward pass the point of no return. Jessica failed to do these, so in westerner's eyes, she fails as a team manager.

Korean on the other hand strongly emphasize on obeying elders and if players/employees fail to do, then it their fault. I would say big corporate culture difference.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
October 23 2012 22:43 GMT
#1806
On October 24 2012 07:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Btw, who the f*** records conversations? Crank didnt even have a contract but they bother with recording conversations?


Recording conversation or not isn't relevant. It already showed that with hard evidence, people can still make big drama out of it, imagine without these hard evidence, people can easily bend and twist the story.
Leenock the Punisher
Daelgar
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland25 Posts
October 23 2012 22:44 GMT
#1807
On October 24 2012 07:28 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:16 m4inbrain wrote:
On October 24 2012 07:12 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:

This thing still going on? Let it go, people.

Damages have been done, nobody will get arrested also, no juice in this drama anymore.



In fact, there is.

I reconsidered a bit after getting some sleep, and i don't believe CranK meant harm or had a "malicious intent". He handled his shit just stupid (as in, like a kid). Guess he will learn from that. Etc etc.

What really gets me, is that Manager J gets away completely "unharmed". I really feel people should "witchhunt him" way more than Jessica or CranK. I don't get why nobody points at him (not even Jessica, which is really weird compared to CranK etc).

Edit: the last matter is btw why i think Jessica is not a bad person, the longer this goes on, the more she comes off to me like just a really disappointed woman. If you consider "old-school-stuff" in Korea (like respect your elders no matter what etc), which she seemingly learned when she was young, yeah.. She puts in way to much tenacity though.


I agree with this mostly. I think it would be best if we all just agree to disagree on all the players and Jessica and stop harping about any of that. Just stop it all, no Jessica is right, Jessica is wrong (or worse).

Lets bring the matter to Mr. J if we want to discuss or rage about anything.


Shival are you beeing paid by Jessica or something? Im asking couse u answer to every single negative opinion about her, which leads to even more discustion, which leads to even more drama on forums.

Or you are that type of guy that has to have the last word?

90+ pages of text that doesnt change anything, Team Slayers is gone, deal with it.
Oh, special tactics? You see, Its fine.
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
October 23 2012 22:44 GMT
#1808
On October 24 2012 07:42 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.


I would say that westerner place more emphasize on leader's responsibility to get the team through the hardship, notice and fix the problem within the team in a timely manner before things go spirally downward pass the point of no return. Jessica failed to do these, so in westerner's eyes, she fails as a team manager.

Korean on the other hand strongly emphasize on obeying elders and if players/employees fail to do, then it their fault. I would say big corporate culture difference.




Lol nope

obeying elders part is correct, but the remaining sentence is just pure garbage.

어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 22:49:36
October 23 2012 22:49 GMT
#1809
On October 24 2012 07:44 Daelgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:28 Shival wrote:
On October 24 2012 07:16 m4inbrain wrote:
On October 24 2012 07:12 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:

This thing still going on? Let it go, people.

Damages have been done, nobody will get arrested also, no juice in this drama anymore.



In fact, there is.

I reconsidered a bit after getting some sleep, and i don't believe CranK meant harm or had a "malicious intent". He handled his shit just stupid (as in, like a kid). Guess he will learn from that. Etc etc.

What really gets me, is that Manager J gets away completely "unharmed". I really feel people should "witchhunt him" way more than Jessica or CranK. I don't get why nobody points at him (not even Jessica, which is really weird compared to CranK etc).

Edit: the last matter is btw why i think Jessica is not a bad person, the longer this goes on, the more she comes off to me like just a really disappointed woman. If you consider "old-school-stuff" in Korea (like respect your elders no matter what etc), which she seemingly learned when she was young, yeah.. She puts in way to much tenacity though.


I agree with this mostly. I think it would be best if we all just agree to disagree on all the players and Jessica and stop harping about any of that. Just stop it all, no Jessica is right, Jessica is wrong (or worse).

Lets bring the matter to Mr. J if we want to discuss or rage about anything.


Shival are you beeing paid by Jessica or something? Im asking couse u answer to every single negative opinion about her, which leads to even more discustion, which leads to even more drama on forums.

Or you are that type of guy that has to have the last word?

90+ pages of text that doesnt change anything, Team Slayers is gone, deal with it.


Didn't he just agree to (hopefully) switch topic to Manager J? Maybe it's just me, but i got that "vibe".
Prevolved
Profile Joined March 2011
United States573 Posts
October 23 2012 22:54 GMT
#1810
On October 24 2012 07:44 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:42 Veldril wrote:
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.


I would say that westerner place more emphasize on leader's responsibility to get the team through the hardship, notice and fix the problem within the team in a timely manner before things go spirally downward pass the point of no return. Jessica failed to do these, so in westerner's eyes, she fails as a team manager.

Korean on the other hand strongly emphasize on obeying elders and if players/employees fail to do, then it their fault. I would say big corporate culture difference.




Lol nope

obeying elders part is correct, but the remaining sentence is just pure garbage.



What's garbage is you labeling the majority of a race as self-centered and biased. In fact, stating this makes you biased and self-centered.

Know thyself.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
October 23 2012 22:56 GMT
#1811
On October 24 2012 07:44 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:42 Veldril wrote:
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.


I would say that westerner place more emphasize on leader's responsibility to get the team through the hardship, notice and fix the problem within the team in a timely manner before things go spirally downward pass the point of no return. Jessica failed to do these, so in westerner's eyes, she fails as a team manager.

Korean on the other hand strongly emphasize on obeying elders and if players/employees fail to do, then it their fault. I would say big corporate culture difference.




Lol nope

obeying elders part is correct, but the remaining sentence is just pure garbage.



Obey all your elders? Or just your Korean elders?
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 23:01:18
October 23 2012 23:00 GMT
#1812
Choi: I am just sad about the way Jessica thinks. I don't even think I can join a good foreign team. She thinks I made the group leave the team.

Boxer: You know her style. If you fight back she is going to have a fight to the death. You don't seem to stay quiet.


Q: Are you thinking about releasing the audio file if needed?
A: If I need to sue him on the court, I may need to release it.
Q: If Crank apologizes, will you stop this issue?
A: Yes. I will end it once there is an apology.


Jesus christ, her ego is just waaaay too big. I could paste like 10000 more quotes of how joke she is(+ all the twitter fights and crap). It feels like she is just threatening everyone all the time like a little baby. Then saying she needs to protect her and the teams image, well that makes it look just worse.

Please Jessica, stay away from esports for the rest of your life. We dont need you here as a drama queen.

Players and Jessica are just saying so other things and opinions. But knowing how big Jessica's ego is, how "she is never wrong" and generally her personality = all she says = bullshit and trying to look good, only trying to save her own ass.

RIP SlayerS, sad it had to go like this. I hope MMA, Crank and others will be in a good team and start showing some awesome results.
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
October 23 2012 23:01 GMT
#1813
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.



Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works

in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have

his own view rather than respecting other people's views.





As a Chinese, TB has a point with what he said.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 23 2012 23:10 GMT
#1814
On October 24 2012 08:01 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote:
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.



Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works

in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have

his own view rather than respecting other people's views.





As a Chinese, TB has a point with what he said.


As a Chinese myself, I do believe that if one team's condition is much better than the counterparts of the same surrounding environment, whining should definitely be looked down upon by the aforementioned societal environment and rightly so.
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
October 23 2012 23:18 GMT
#1815
On October 24 2012 08:10 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 08:01 geokilla wrote:
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote:
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.



Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works

in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have

his own view rather than respecting other people's views.





As a Chinese, TB has a point with what he said.


As a Chinese myself, I do believe that if one team's condition is much better than the counterparts of the same surrounding environment, whining should definitely be looked down upon by the aforementioned societal environment and rightly so.


I think it might be possible that the team's situation and environment went downhill by a lot more than it looked after Slayers lost two sponsors. So yeah, we really don't know what is the situation during the mid-late 2012.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
October 23 2012 23:19 GMT
#1816
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.



Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works

in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have

his own view rather than respecting other people's views.







And jessica respects other peoples views? All she's been doing is spewing out her crap to bring down everyone that she ever had a problem with before she leaves the esports scene forever. She's already been caught misrepresenting information and showing "proof" that was out of context and she just ignores it and continues with her smear campaign.
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askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
October 23 2012 23:21 GMT
#1817
sometimes I get ashamed when I think the drama is more exciting than games ><
hihihi
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 23:24:45
October 23 2012 23:24 GMT
#1818
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.



Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works

in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have

his own view rather than respecting other people's views.





If this isn't racist I don't know what is. The differences that are being discussed are cultural; not ethnic. You know, some of the people commenting here are both not East Asian nor European.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ghola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 23:29:13
October 23 2012 23:27 GMT
#1819
On October 24 2012 07:42 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 07:36 furymonkey wrote:
Based on the sentiment I hear, or the loudest. I can see majority of westerner view Jessica as drama queen, while majority of asian and koreans view Crank and MMA as little brat, big contrast.



Majority of white people are so biased and self centered that none of them really seem to understand how shit works

in korea. TB's statement of how he views this drama is also useless and misleading because he only wants to have

his own view rather than respecting other people's views.






lol racism.

So tell me again how siding with the players when I have no personal stake in their careers or the outcome of this drama makes me selfish. I'd really like to know.
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
October 23 2012 23:27 GMT
#1820
On October 24 2012 08:21 askTeivospy wrote:
sometimes I get ashamed when I think the drama is more exciting than games ><


Don't be, most of us do at the beginning.

Just remember, drama will get old, but pursuing perfect in game play will never be.
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