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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 22 2012 20:43 GMT
#61
Jessica likes to read various community sites and berated boxer by saying things like ‘why did you do this’, ‘why didn’t you use this strategy’


is jessica a regular in our LR threads??
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 20:45:09
October 22 2012 20:44 GMT
#62
On October 23 2012 05:42 Fenrax wrote:
Why do neither Crank not MMA say anything regarding the length and the enforcement of the practice ban?

Wasn't that settled? the ESF head taking responsibility stepping down etc.
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Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
October 22 2012 20:44 GMT
#63
I don't have any insider information here or know who tells the truth and who doesn't, but from a tactical point spoken, i think it was very smart from MMA to say that Boxer quit playing, felt bad, etc. because of Jessica.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
October 22 2012 20:45 GMT
#64
On October 23 2012 05:42 Fenrax wrote:
Why do neither Crank not MMA say anything regarding the length and the enforcement of the practice ban?


the fact that there was a practice ban was enough for eSF to have 'lost' that battle in Korea, regardless of the actual length. That issue is effectively over in Korea.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
October 22 2012 20:45 GMT
#65
"Boxer quit playing because of Jessica" - there will be blood!
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tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
October 22 2012 20:45 GMT
#66
Corporation R? Wonder if it's Razer that MMA is talking about.
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Treeborne
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States4 Posts
October 22 2012 20:45 GMT
#67
I think a lot of people are putting a little too much emphasis on finding out who's to blame. It's a genuinely sad event and I think people should just take it at that face value. Slayers was a great team, always a pleasure to watch, and was yet another product of Boxer's passion and enthusiasm for the Starcraft scene. When Slayers was first announced, I remember thinking that this could very well be Boxer's greatest contribution: a progaming team that would carry not only his name but his work ethic, his innovation, his desire to win, and just his legacy overall. And to see it go down in flames like this? Littered with controversy and pointing fingers? Heartbreaking....just hearbreaking.....

Unless someone is straight up lying at this point (there shouldn't be any need to, especially since there allegedly are recorded phone calls) it seems like it's just a lack of communication between the management and players. But again, at this point it shouldn't even matter.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
October 22 2012 20:45 GMT
#68
Oh snap, Jessica and Boxer accusations.

This drama is ridiculous.
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soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 22 2012 20:45 GMT
#69
cranks biggest moment in esports right there lol....
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
October 22 2012 20:45 GMT
#70
On October 23 2012 05:43 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
Jessica likes to read various community sites and berated boxer by saying things like ‘why did you do this’, ‘why didn’t you use this strategy’


is jessica a regular in our LR threads??

I think we scared her off with our German potato salad.

On a more serious note, this drama seems to have no end and I highly doubt there will be any contest for which drama receives the SC2 Drama of the Year Award 2012.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
lambac0re
Profile Joined August 2011
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 20:48:13
October 22 2012 20:45 GMT
#71
On October 23 2012 05:44 Hardigan wrote:
I don't have any insider information here or know who tells the truth and who doesn't, but from a tactical point spoken, i think it was very smart from MMA to say that Boxer quit playing, felt bad, etc. because of Jessica.

Are you serious? Because those allegations are going to have very serious consequences if Boxer comes out and supports Jessica. And who do you think Boxer is more likely to support? His long term fiance or the player he personally called "cancer"?
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 22 2012 20:46 GMT
#72
On October 23 2012 05:45 Treeborne wrote:
I think a lot of people are putting a little too much emphasis on finding out who's to blame. It's a genuinely sad event and I think people should just take it at that face value. Slayers was a great team, always a pleasure to watch, and was yet another product of Boxer's passion and enthusiasm for the Starcraft scene. When Slayers was first announced, I remember thinking that this could very well be Boxer's greatest contribution: a progaming team that would carry not only his name but his work ethic, his innovation, his desire to win, and just his legacy overall. And to see it go down in flames like this? Littered with controversy and pointing fingers? Heartbreaking....just hearbreaking.....

Unless someone is straight up lying at this point (there shouldn't be any need to, especially since there allegedly are recorded phone calls) it seems like it's just a lack of communication between the management and players. But again, at this point it shouldn't even matter.


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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
October 22 2012 20:46 GMT
#73
Pretty immature behavior from all parties involved imo. Acting on alleged rumors without confronting on time usually ends up in a shitstorm like this. Very sad.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
October 22 2012 20:48 GMT
#74
Yaay, more drama, that's what the SC2 community needs...
Seriously, without Mvp I would quit SC2 entirely. He's the only thing that keeps me interested in this scene. This community with all its drama, incidents and other bullshit is just sad. You want eSport/SC2 to become mainstream? Never gona happen with things like this whole SlayerS drama happening on a regular basis.
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DonGrisu
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria697 Posts
October 22 2012 20:48 GMT
#75
Oh God... More Drama... Sc2 is nothing again this Dramacraft...
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phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
October 22 2012 20:48 GMT
#76
On October 23 2012 05:42 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 05:37 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
On October 23 2012 05:17 Waxangel wrote:

TIG: can you tell us of hidden facts regarding the transfer
Mma: afterwards, I was able to find out about the trade negotiations. An incredibly large sum of money was demanded for me even though I had 3 months left on my contract. The talks broke down. This was because of the absurd transfer fee and other inquiries were made to teams that I didn’t even want to go to.



I wonder which team offered this 'incredibly large sum of money' to MMA. EG maybe?


What this answer of mma means is that Jessica wanted a high transfer fee for him. And thats why the foreign team that had interest, backed out of the talks.


Ah right, that makes a lot of sense now.
Thank you.
@dbrisingr
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
October 22 2012 20:52 GMT
#77
I can understand how Crank can rationalize to himself that he didn't do anything wrong, but in this case, the end result is more important than intent. In the end, he DID leave slayers and joined a foreign team, and Jessica would have every right to feel betrayed in that case.
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zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:39:24
October 22 2012 20:52 GMT
#78
Is Manager J snowbird, because he speaks korean, english and german AND is involved in SC2 esports?

I mean it seems like it, because he says so in this interview:
+ Show Spoiler +


bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 22 2012 20:52 GMT
#79
Yeah, as I thought misunderstandings are ripe and though I still think MMA made some mistakes (of which he apologises for a couple) I was pretty shocked to see that every little thing Jessica said people believed 100%.

But as Fionn said: MMA is going to get wrecked in Korea just because of who he's dealing with. A shame really. If it had been about any other team's manager and their girlfriend then he'd probably be fine.

Whether I want to or not...I'm waiting to see Jessica's backlash. It'll come...=(
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StayPhrosty
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada406 Posts
October 22 2012 20:53 GMT
#80
On October 23 2012 05:24 Waxangel wrote:
seems like it was just a bad situation on SlayerS where neither the players nor management were doing much to help it improve, and it all got blown up when Jessica decided all the blame belonged to one side.


Well, I definitely agree that the whole situation was messy, I think everyone was to blame. I don't think it's fair to say that it was all Jessica's fault for blaming the other side, as MMA seems to have done the same thing here. Sure, they both put in token apologies, but the majority of both the players' posts and Jessica's posts are very one-sided. I will say that it is management's responsibility to oversee the team and improve the atmosphere, though I think far too many people believe this removes any blame from players/employee J/ESF etc. There were many people going behind the backs of slayers' management, and under such conditions it is impossible to correctly guide the situation.

All of this really just makes me sad and I wish they all could've had the chance to work everything out.
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