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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
October 17 2012 14:37 GMT
#581
On October 17 2012 23:35 lilsusie wrote:
MMA just told me via Skype that he's gonna write his side of the story to give to a reporter. It seems he just read what Jessica wrote today. I sure hope it clears some things up. This drama is unbelievable.

Thanks for telling us this.
shArklight
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Singapore160 Posts
October 17 2012 14:37 GMT
#582
On October 17 2012 23:36 6BiT wrote:
NesTea ... wake up from this nightmare


Nestea is gone...there is only Zergbong and we live in this twisted world of his now.

T.T
Happiness is never grand.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 17 2012 14:37 GMT
#583
On October 17 2012 23:33 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:31 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:28 S_SienZ wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:27 mikedebo wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
the whole son of boxer thing MMA had just went down the shitter :/

Sad that their relationship soured to the point that Boxer considered MMA "a cancer to the team". I remember them at MLG Anaheim D:


Actually, this could make a great storyline. Boxer vs MMA showmatch Bo9 please, followed by an actual MMA fight. Like chess boxing!


Obiwan vs Anakin :o

It's OVER, MY TANKS ARE ON THE HIGH GROUND.


MMA then goes on to rise as EG.MMA

meanwhile Boxer trains young Fantasy Skywalker in the ways of the sc2 terran

Fantasy will then travel to the IM house after Boxer's imminent demise to learn from Yoda.


Problem is that Boxer has the title 'emperor', which is going to confuse people
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 14:38:12
October 17 2012 14:37 GMT
#584
On October 17 2012 23:35 lilsusie wrote:
MMA just told me via Skype that he's gonna write his side of the story to give to a reporter. It seems he just read what Jessica wrote today. I sure hope it clears some things up. This drama is unbelievable.

Tell him to cheer up. Considering all the unnecessary drama Jessica has caused on several occasions, some of us takes what Jessica says with a grain of salt.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 17 2012 14:37 GMT
#585
On October 17 2012 23:36 GunPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:35 Panthae wrote:
The saddest thing is that Boxer had nothing to do with any of it... He's the owner, yet he's the victim here imo.

You can't be considered a victim when you walk away from your own team. If there were problems, he should've stayed and fixed them.

Yep he walked away from Slayers because of the problems(most likely) and that was the final straw.
Moderatorlickypiddy
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
October 17 2012 14:37 GMT
#586
LoL Updates ‏@LOLupdates

Starcraft 2 is dying because it is an inferior game when compared to League of Legends. RT! Free Riot points at 9K RTs! Don't #saveHots.

User was warned for this post
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 17 2012 14:38 GMT
#587
On October 17 2012 23:37 saksy2 wrote:
LoL Updates ‏@LOLupdates

Starcraft 2 is dying because it is an inferior game when compared to League of Legends. RT! Free Riot points at 9K RTs! Don't #saveHots.


good-bye.
Moderatorlickypiddy
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
October 17 2012 14:38 GMT
#588
Is it just me or does the entire post sound like a middle-school girl wrote it, trying to explain her way out of a paper bag? It's all he said this and she said that so I did this blah blah blah.

Why can't we hear from the players? I would love to hear what Boxer has to say or MMA or Crank, because this is only one side of the story. It seems this Manager J guy was pretty convincing to the players, and that makes me wonder about the true nature of these published comments.

It seems one major factor in the downfall of SlayerS was their decision to not join the eSF. The eSF was designed as a union of players to protect their interests and use the collective power to bargain against greedy tournaments/team managers. So it seems SlayerS not joining eSF was seen as somewhat traitorous by the other Korean teams.

The whole thing is a mess, but as others have said I think we could see this coming once Jessica was put in charge. This disbandment seems like another emotional momentary lapse of judgement just like most of her other zany decisions.
Terran it up.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
October 17 2012 14:39 GMT
#589
On October 17 2012 23:37 saksy2 wrote:
LoL Updates ‏@LOLupdates

Starcraft 2 is dying because it is an inferior game when compared to League of Legends. RT! Free Riot points at 9K RTs! Don't #saveHots.

Well-known troll account.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 14:39:36
October 17 2012 14:39 GMT
#590
On October 17 2012 23:35 lilsusie wrote:
MMA just told me via Skype that he's gonna write his side of the story to give to a reporter. It seems he just read what Jessica wrote today. I sure hope it clears some things up. This drama is unbelievable.


I hope that Crank will give out a statement as well trough Genna. Hopefully we will get to the truth in the end, whatever it may be... and I can only assume this day will get even more depressing T_T
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
October 17 2012 14:40 GMT
#591
i actually want to hear what glorious Boxer has to say about all this

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
October 17 2012 14:40 GMT
#592
On October 17 2012 23:37 saksy2 wrote:
LoL Updates ‏@LOLupdates

Starcraft 2 is dying because it is an inferior game when compared to League of Legends. RT! Free Riot points at 9K RTs! Don't #saveHots.

What a cheap shot....
they're equally good games, involving different skills sets.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 17 2012 14:40 GMT
#593
On October 17 2012 23:37 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:33 S_SienZ wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:31 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:28 S_SienZ wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:27 mikedebo wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
the whole son of boxer thing MMA had just went down the shitter :/

Sad that their relationship soured to the point that Boxer considered MMA "a cancer to the team". I remember them at MLG Anaheim D:


Actually, this could make a great storyline. Boxer vs MMA showmatch Bo9 please, followed by an actual MMA fight. Like chess boxing!


Obiwan vs Anakin :o

It's OVER, MY TANKS ARE ON THE HIGH GROUND.


MMA then goes on to rise as EG.MMA

meanwhile Boxer trains young Fantasy Skywalker in the ways of the sc2 terran

Fantasy will then travel to the IM house after Boxer's imminent demise to learn from Yoda.


Problem is that Boxer has the title 'emperor', which is going to confuse people

Duuuuuude, you spoiled the plot twist.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
October 17 2012 14:40 GMT
#594
Oh boy..........this is gonna get so much worse with player testimonies.....fists flying left and right
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
October 17 2012 14:40 GMT
#595
Jesus this thing is huge.

Next part:
Change of BoxeR's mind
- He was very disappointed when MMA called it a slavery note. He remembered how he started and how players were living more than ten years ago and he wanted to create a better environment for players. After everything he gave up to come to SC2 to fulfill his dream of remaining as a player and training new players who can shine in e-sports, what MMA did damaged BoxeR.
- He was preparing to come back as a player before the HOTS was released. However after he wanted to quit.

- His passion as a manager and as a player were diminishing fast. I had hard time watching him too. He taught the players a more than ten-year period of experience inside and outside the game but the players didn't seem to appreciate that. That's when I suggested him to coach in T1 for remaining players, who may be able to fire up his passion again. After a few days of consideration, he agreed.

Alicia and Ryung
- Ryung never received the highlight because of MMA but he was a good friend of MMA. When BoxeR cared for MMA the most, I cared for Ryung the most. When the incidents happened, I was worried about Ryung being influenced by that. When Ryung's wrists were bad. I sent him back home. He performed so much better. He never disappointed me. He tried his best in GSTL even in that atmosphere. But when Ryung behaved in a way MMA did, I was rather disappointed. When I asked him 'why are you being like that?' he also said 'I lost my faith in you at some point.' and when I asked him 'what have I done?' he couldn't answer

- As you might already know, Alicia was a B-team player. He was a hard worker who was also modest. But he started to change as he entered foreign tournaments. It's not a bad thing for a man to chase after money and fame but our team started with everything glamorously. When we resided in Yeouido (T/N: one of the richest area), we had both vans and cars to look after the kids. When our condition got better, we moved to Gimpo and we delegated more work to Cella. We were never hungry. If we started in hard conditions, maybe they would have been thankful as the conditions improve gradually but for us it was the other way around.

- Alicia's complaint was that no right person dropped him and picked him up from the airport when he entered foreign tournaments. The reason was that it's annoying to be picked up and dropped off by someone else but Cella. I just sighed when he told me this. I sent him up to take a break. His complaint was not something that I did wrong and I thought he lakced some common sense.


See top post for link to full translation so far
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jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
October 17 2012 14:41 GMT
#596
On October 17 2012 23:25 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:09 ranjutan wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:01 Conti wrote:
On October 17 2012 22:53 frequency wrote:
Next part:

- But.. I was told by others that he is streaming and looking for a foreign team. So I asked him why he had to lie and what his unprofessional attitutes are for. I asked him if he knew why MMA wanted to leave the team. He answered 'it's because of me - when I told MMA that I want to move to another team because of the team atmosphere, MMA wanted to join me'. I asked MMA whether it was true and he denied.


Other parts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041&currentpage=8#156


Huh. In the other parts, didn't Jessica basically say that MMA wanted to form a new team and steal Slayers' players or something? This makes it sound like MMA simply wanted to go wherever Crank wanted to go. Big difference.

To be honest, I get a bad vibe about Jessica from the translations done her (thank you so much for the translation, by the way), but I can't quite put my finger on it why. Weird.


No. She said that some former manager J offered to Slayers players to join a new team that he would form and get sponsored, and MMA agreed. This seems to be a separate incident, as manager J's team never materialized and he was probably out of the picture by this point (of MMA's demotion). Perhaps you're getting some of this bad vibe because you are not remembering correctly.

Actually, I think it's more because Jessica comes off as quite confrontational even in her own words. Even after reading it all again I don't see why she had to demote MMA instead of working things out with him. He was obviously unhappy to begin with, demoting him surely didn't help in that regard. On top of that, according to the post, the players, other managers, other teams and other team's managers are all at fault, one way or another. It's hard to believe that it's as simple as "Everyone is evil but me".

Be that as it may. R.I.P. Slayers.


There is no doubt Jessica could have handled the matter better, but all that is just second guessing now. What appeared to be true, though, is that some of the key players in Slayers got too big heads and demonstrated a complete lack of team spirit. I don't care how unhappy you are, you just do not talk to Boxer that way.

What I want to know is why these other teams are still turning their backs on Slayers even after the Confederation has been replaced with ESF.
TC_Beynbio
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Norway81 Posts
October 17 2012 14:41 GMT
#597
Damn this sucks, sad to see that SlayerS disbands, they were a really good team =(
y'all got more of them....pylons?
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
October 17 2012 14:41 GMT
#598
On October 17 2012 23:36 GunPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:35 Panthae wrote:
The saddest thing is that Boxer had nothing to do with any of it... He's the owner, yet he's the victim here imo.

You can't be considered a victim when you walk away from your own team. If there were problems, he should've stayed and fixed them.

The timing of the events that Jessica talks about isnt even clear so don't jump to conclusions. It sounds like BoxeR wanted to help the team but the players were not cooperating. I don't think BoxeR jumped ship... if what Jessica said is true he was personally funding the whole thing. He had every right to leave if the players werent respecting him. Seems like BoxeR did as much as he could but at a certain point he probably knew what was coming. Maybe MMA's story will clear things up though. Shitty situation one way or the other...
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
October 17 2012 14:41 GMT
#599
On October 17 2012 23:37 shArklight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:36 6BiT wrote:
NesTea ... wake up from this nightmare


Nestea is gone...there is only Zergbong and we live in this twisted world of his now.

T.T


I thank you for making me laugh through this depressing news.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
October 17 2012 14:41 GMT
#600
so Jessica's drama eventually came to destroy the teamspirit and the team.
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