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transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
October 13 2012 18:08 GMT
#1861
On October 14 2012 03:01 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Without police investigation, how can you be 100% sure the child doesn't exist?

Even if there is just a slight possibility of that being true, for this kind of matter, must be taken seriously, investigate first.



I once said "man i just took a massive dump it was about 20kg"

but let me reveal now privately that in fact the crap I took then wasn't truly 20 kg

ok now that I explained the difference between truth and joke, make the conclusion yourself.

your knowledge and doubts doesn't matter at all. and nobody cares if you think it's possible that he raped a child. THE EVIDENCE IS NON EXISTANT FOR THIS CRIME.

but the sad truth is u can have an effect on the sponsors, but if you write them you're just a bored asshole trying to make himself feel important in a really pathetic way.
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
October 13 2012 18:10 GMT
#1862
On October 14 2012 03:03 blug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Who are you to say it's not offensive to anyone? Are you saying that it is OK for commentators to start making pedo jokes on GSL? There is a line and he crossed it with vulgar comments (Yes they are vulgar).

I personally joke around it with my friends, however if I made a joke like that around my dad, he would get offended. If I made a joke like that around my Religious cousins they would get offended.

Even Stephano said "You aren't streaming right?" at the end of his comments, even he knew that they would be construed as offensive.

So is it offensive? YES! YES IT IS! Not to everyone, but to enough people.


I get it if you don't like it, that's fine. but it doesn't offend you. not liking something and being offended are 2 entirely different things.
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
October 13 2012 18:11 GMT
#1863
On October 14 2012 02:38 transcendent one wrote:


MC publicly threatened Huk's life. I'm not even sure if he threatened me or Huk because he used "you" and that means he wants to kill me right?

I propose everyone sends a letter to SK's sponsors to stop supporting this murderer. We cant have killers just threatening people around on the internet. who knows how many people has MC killed in the past. this has to stop.

fellow inquisitors, let the sc2 scene burn in the cleansing flames of the unquestionable authority of reddit posters.



are you serious ?
everyone understands that this is just fun mocking by mc.

if you make stupid comments about having sex with children, things get more complicated.


Kazang
Profile Joined August 2010
578 Posts
October 13 2012 18:11 GMT
#1864
On October 14 2012 03:01 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Without police investigation, how can you be 100% sure the child doesn't exist?

Even if there is just a slight possibility of that being true, for this kind of matter, must be taken seriously, investigate first.


Those sound like the words of a child rapist trying to pin it on someone else.

I think that there is a slight possibility you are a child rapist, this must be taken seriously and should be investigated.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
October 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#1865
On October 14 2012 02:59 haegN wrote:
Society, have mercy on me
I hope you're not angry if I disagree
Society, crazy and deep
I hope you're not lonely without me



Eddie Vedder and Into The Wild is lovely. I know what you mean though, you are really mad at Society for doing this witch hunt so you are leaving. Can I go with you?
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#1866
On October 14 2012 03:03 blug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Who are you to say it's not offensive to anyone? Are you saying that it is OK for commentators to start making pedo jokes on GSL? There is a line and he crossed it with vulgar comments (Yes they are vulgar).

I personally joke around it with my friends, however if I made a joke like that around my dad, he would get offended. If I made a joke like that around my Religious cousins they would get offended.

Even Stephano said "You aren't streaming right?" at the end of his comments, even he knew that they would be construed as offensive.

So is it offensive? YES! YES IT IS! Not to everyone, but to enough people.

But based on your argument Stephano doesn't deserve punishment, since he was not aware that it was streamed, he couldn't have meant any offense if he thought it was between him and BlinG.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
October 13 2012 18:13 GMT
#1867
On October 14 2012 03:02 MilesTeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 02:59 Kkxtrouble wrote:
I don't get the people defending Stephano. Even if it's a joke Stephano is a public figure for Eg. Eg can't afford to have a lose cannon that is bad for business and for the image the company carries. Also, who the hell "jokes" about raping an underage girl?


And I don't get how people can read what he actually wrote, in context, and say there's something wrong.

Not to mention that it was, as far as he was concerned, a private conversation.


...about 100th guy in this thread who thinks "Private Message" in SC2 is actually private on the internet. Is this like new metagame among young kids? I never considered it private. Or, anything you say on the internet is never private enough as far as I know.
blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
October 13 2012 18:14 GMT
#1868
On October 14 2012 03:10 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:03 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Who are you to say it's not offensive to anyone? Are you saying that it is OK for commentators to start making pedo jokes on GSL? There is a line and he crossed it with vulgar comments (Yes they are vulgar).

I personally joke around it with my friends, however if I made a joke like that around my dad, he would get offended. If I made a joke like that around my Religious cousins they would get offended.

Even Stephano said "You aren't streaming right?" at the end of his comments, even he knew that they would be construed as offensive.

So is it offensive? YES! YES IT IS! Not to everyone, but to enough people.


I get it if you don't like it, that's fine. but it doesn't offend you. not liking something and being offended are 2 entirely different things.


What are you talking about? To be offended by something is not limited to personal experience. Being offended is about getting upset by something. Some people aren't like us and aren't able to brush things aside and take more of a literal approach to crude jokes.
Derp
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
October 13 2012 18:14 GMT
#1869
On October 14 2012 03:11 kinglemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 02:38 transcendent one wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktk4LWRXino

MC publicly threatened Huk's life. I'm not even sure if he threatened me or Huk because he used "you" and that means he wants to kill me right?

I propose everyone sends a letter to SK's sponsors to stop supporting this murderer. We cant have killers just threatening people around on the internet. who knows how many people has MC killed in the past. this has to stop.

fellow inquisitors, let the sc2 scene burn in the cleansing flames of the unquestionable authority of reddit posters.



are you serious ?
everyone understands that this is just fun mocking by mc.

if you make stupid comments about having sex with children, things get more complicated.




so bottom line, the problem is that not everyone understands Steph made a joke.

so the complication only happens because people are dumb.

who would have thought.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 13 2012 18:15 GMT
#1870
On October 14 2012 03:13 Orek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:02 MilesTeg wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:59 Kkxtrouble wrote:
I don't get the people defending Stephano. Even if it's a joke Stephano is a public figure for Eg. Eg can't afford to have a lose cannon that is bad for business and for the image the company carries. Also, who the hell "jokes" about raping an underage girl?


And I don't get how people can read what he actually wrote, in context, and say there's something wrong.

Not to mention that it was, as far as he was concerned, a private conversation.


...about 100th guy in this thread who thinks "Private Message" in SC2 is actually private on the internet. Is this like new metagame among young kids? I never considered it private. Or, anything you say on the internet is never private enough as far as I know.

Just cause things can be accessed unauthorised does not make it not private.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
October 13 2012 18:15 GMT
#1871
I don't understand this. This is a weird reaction.
I mean, in US, the most important liberty is the "free-speaking" (AND carry a gun :D) and now, u can't say whatever you want?
This is pure shit, and this is scandalous.

Stephano keep on saying what you want and have fun with your friend, some people are just stupid, and you have to deal with it ~~
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
October 13 2012 18:15 GMT
#1872
On October 14 2012 03:08 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:01 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Without police investigation, how can you be 100% sure the child doesn't exist?

Even if there is just a slight possibility of that being true, for this kind of matter, must be taken seriously, investigate first.



I once said "man i just took a massive dump it was about 20kg"

but let me reveal now privately that in fact the crap I took then wasn't truly 20 kg

ok now that I explained the difference between truth and joke, make the conclusion yourself.

your knowledge and doubts doesn't matter at all. and nobody cares if you think it's possible that he raped a child. THE EVIDENCE IS NON EXISTANT FOR THIS CRIME.

but the sad truth is u can have an effect on the sponsors, but if you write them you're just a bored asshole trying to make himself feel important in a really pathetic way.



20kg shit is impossible, but have sex with 14 yo girl is very much possible, so your analogy is false.

I'm not that offended to email sponsors, but some people certainly did, and I think some people believe there is a possibility that being true. Even if they are hurting esports, the behavior of email sponsors is still better than stephano's joking behavior here, even if he was joking.

blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
October 13 2012 18:15 GMT
#1873
On October 14 2012 03:12 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:03 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Who are you to say it's not offensive to anyone? Are you saying that it is OK for commentators to start making pedo jokes on GSL? There is a line and he crossed it with vulgar comments (Yes they are vulgar).

I personally joke around it with my friends, however if I made a joke like that around my dad, he would get offended. If I made a joke like that around my Religious cousins they would get offended.

Even Stephano said "You aren't streaming right?" at the end of his comments, even he knew that they would be construed as offensive.

So is it offensive? YES! YES IT IS! Not to everyone, but to enough people.

But based on your argument Stephano doesn't deserve punishment, since he was not aware that it was streamed, he couldn't have meant any offense if he thought it was between him and BlinG.


That's fair enough to say, but you can also argue that Stephano is a big boy and is responsible for his own actions.
Derp
MugenXBanksy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States479 Posts
October 13 2012 18:16 GMT
#1874
Well that was a kinda slow response took them like a week. I saw that somewhere earlier was like in stewie voice"saaaaay whhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
we all hope to be like whitera one day
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
October 13 2012 18:17 GMT
#1875
On October 14 2012 03:14 blug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:10 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:03 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Who are you to say it's not offensive to anyone? Are you saying that it is OK for commentators to start making pedo jokes on GSL? There is a line and he crossed it with vulgar comments (Yes they are vulgar).

I personally joke around it with my friends, however if I made a joke like that around my dad, he would get offended. If I made a joke like that around my Religious cousins they would get offended.

Even Stephano said "You aren't streaming right?" at the end of his comments, even he knew that they would be construed as offensive.

So is it offensive? YES! YES IT IS! Not to everyone, but to enough people.


I get it if you don't like it, that's fine. but it doesn't offend you. not liking something and being offended are 2 entirely different things.


What are you talking about? To be offended by something is not limited to personal experience. Being offended is about getting upset by something. Some people aren't like us and aren't able to brush things aside and take more of a literal approach to crude jokes.


there is probably no judge in the entire world who wouldn't laugh in your face if you tried to explain how a joke between 2 guys you have never seen never talked to and connected to noone you know somehow "offends" you.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 13 2012 18:18 GMT
#1876
On October 14 2012 03:15 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:08 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:01 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Without police investigation, how can you be 100% sure the child doesn't exist?

Even if there is just a slight possibility of that being true, for this kind of matter, must be taken seriously, investigate first.



I once said "man i just took a massive dump it was about 20kg"

but let me reveal now privately that in fact the crap I took then wasn't truly 20 kg

ok now that I explained the difference between truth and joke, make the conclusion yourself.

your knowledge and doubts doesn't matter at all. and nobody cares if you think it's possible that he raped a child. THE EVIDENCE IS NON EXISTANT FOR THIS CRIME.

but the sad truth is u can have an effect on the sponsors, but if you write them you're just a bored asshole trying to make himself feel important in a really pathetic way.



20kg shit is impossible, but have sex with 14 yo girl is very much possible, so your analogy is false.

I'm not that offended to email sponsors, but some people certainly did, and I think some people believe there is a possibility that being true. Even if they are hurting esports, the behavior of email sponsors is still better than stephano's joking behavior here, even if he was joking.


That's pretty dumb. If you believe that he slept with a 14 year old the proper thing to do would have been to alert the RELEVANT authorities and let them investigate. Who the fuck contacts a person's employers in such a case?
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
October 13 2012 18:18 GMT
#1877
On October 14 2012 03:11 Kazang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:01 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Without police investigation, how can you be 100% sure the child doesn't exist?

Even if there is just a slight possibility of that being true, for this kind of matter, must be taken seriously, investigate first.


Those sound like the words of a child rapist trying to pin it on someone else.

I think that there is a slight possibility you are a child rapist, this must be taken seriously and should be investigated.


That's coming from somebody else's mouth, if you accuse me, evidence should be provided, or you will get into jail. This is completely different from Stephano's case, that's from his own mouth, I'm not accusing him, I'm just quoting him.
orBitual
Profile Joined January 2011
United States96 Posts
October 13 2012 18:19 GMT
#1878
On October 14 2012 03:15 VelJa wrote:
I don't understand this. This is a weird reaction.
I mean, in US, the most important liberty is the "free-speaking" (AND carry a gun :D) and now, u can't say whatever you want?
This is pure shit, and this is scandalous.

Stephano keep on saying what you want and have fun with your friend, some people are just stupid, and you have to deal with it ~~


He wasn't censored by the US, he was reprimanded by his employer...
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
October 13 2012 18:19 GMT
#1879
On October 14 2012 03:15 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:08 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:01 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:56 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:50 blug wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:41 vi4t0r wrote:
how many ppl here have a younger sister/ young daughter? what would you do if it was your family member involved?

what is most unsettling about the comments here is that so many advocate doing a minor... even if make a joke, there is a difference between claiming to be willing to do it and actually saying that you've done it...

everyone is free to prefer milfs, plastic dolls, dead ppl, donkeys etc. but at the point when he himself provides a statement strongly implying he actually committed a felony, he is screwing himself up the anus.

take a criminal person who has a 'private' conversation with a friend and brags about how he mugged an older lady the other day... and it somehow gets documented and made public... the private part ain't worth jack (no pun intended)

and one more note to the guy arguing that it is alright for him to say what he did say because his English comprehension lacks quite a bit >> well my friend. if you have no clue about traffic rules and still decide to drive and end up causing an accident, then you just say you wont take responsibility because you didn't know you have to stop on red? great argument ~_~ ...



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


The fact is Stephano said vulgar comments with the intent of being vulgar. You can prance around and call out technicality, however at the end of the day what Stephano said was offensive to a large amount of people. ESports will not be taken seriously as a Sport if such ungentlemanly comments are allowed.


its not offensive since the child he "raped" is non existant.

just how it's not racism if you hate orcs in wow because you know they don't exist.

it's not even offensive for anyone. in what way does a stupid joke offend you. you don't even know the people involved. you're not obliged to watch stephano. he has literally ZERO effect on your life.

from a law point of view, this case is NON EXISTANT. it's a PR problem from EG's perspective, but people who feel offended create the problem out of thin air. they don't achieve anything with this and even if they do that has 0 effect on their lives.

to me it just seems like a bunch of assholes who are bored and just create shit because they can.


Without police investigation, how can you be 100% sure the child doesn't exist?

Even if there is just a slight possibility of that being true, for this kind of matter, must be taken seriously, investigate first.



I once said "man i just took a massive dump it was about 20kg"

but let me reveal now privately that in fact the crap I took then wasn't truly 20 kg

ok now that I explained the difference between truth and joke, make the conclusion yourself.

your knowledge and doubts doesn't matter at all. and nobody cares if you think it's possible that he raped a child. THE EVIDENCE IS NON EXISTANT FOR THIS CRIME.

but the sad truth is u can have an effect on the sponsors, but if you write them you're just a bored asshole trying to make himself feel important in a really pathetic way.



20kg shit is impossible, but have sex with 14 yo girl is very much possible, so your analogy is false.

I'm not that offended to email sponsors, but some people certainly did, and I think some people believe there is a possibility that being true. Even if they are hurting esports, the behavior of email sponsors is still better than stephano's joking behavior here, even if he was joking.



ok.

I have murdered an albino afro-american yesterday with a hand grenade.

its possible!

Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 18:22:30
October 13 2012 18:20 GMT
#1880
On October 13 2012 08:31 Iodem wrote:
Show nested quote +
Evil Geniuses wrote:
What curse?



Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:29 Sumahi wrote:
I need some context. What did he say?

[image loading]


Lol dat face.

Feel bad for stephano, I've said shit worse then that to my friends. If i was him i would leave EG and go solo so he can compete in those tourneys.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
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