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ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
October 13 2012 16:46 GMT
#1781
On October 14 2012 01:45 Klipsys wrote:

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look at most shock comics i.e bill hicks they usually have a fucking good point to make and shock comedy is the vehicle what stephano said was just disgusting for the sake of being disgusting.


There's no law that says you can't speak disgustingly to your friends. The only issue was it became public and he didn't want it to be. I think EG made the right call, but frankly people here need to lighten up. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't rape a child, he didn't do anything terrible except have sex with a younger person and then joke to bling about it. Big deal, worse shit happens daily.



I know a guy who went to prison for 3 years for this.

13 year old girl. Went to his house and seduced him. Parents found out, notified police, rest is history.


Stephano should be lucky its just a 1 month suspension. I bet the parents of the girl he fucked doesn't know, if they did I doubt the pro-scene would have Stephano anymore.
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
joeschmo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States167 Posts
October 13 2012 16:46 GMT
#1782
The definitive amount of crude comedy displayed, coupled with the delinquent's lack of vigilance, is enough humor to bond sage & simpleton.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 16:55:16
October 13 2012 16:47 GMT
#1783
Hey don't listen to the french guys defending Stephano. They're full of shit, talking out of their asses, and giving the French a bad reputation. As if we needed that.
o choro é livre
kvmetternich
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 16:53:11
October 13 2012 16:47 GMT
#1784
On October 14 2012 01:19 bigbadgreen wrote:
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1. it was not intended to be public.

2. ppl should not care. its his private stuff.

3. if some1 is offended due to talk about sexuality then its his problem.


1. it doesn't matter if it was intended to be private, it went public
2. it's not private anymore. people do care, he is a public figure representing a company who pays him

3. it wasn't about sexuality, it was about child abuse. the joke wasn't about sex, it was about abuse, there is a very big difference.

personally I'm not offended by it, it's obviously a joke but i do find it interesting that people can't wrap their heads around why a company would suspend somebody in this situation. this would happen in any workplace where a comment could cost a company money and this action stops that.


I disagree.

So, there's the legitimacy to take YOUR private talks and give it to pubic and justify this with a laconic "Sorry, it went public".
Seems legit and Big Brother would approve.
Unfortunatelly, this is not 1984 Eurasia And no, it's not importart if you are a politician, an esport star or a private guy. Privacy is sacred and inviolable.
If private stuff went public the guilty one is who make it public not the one who spoke.

In this case the punishment is deserverd due to the lack of attention 'cause the other guy was streaming and not for the joke itself.

Sorry for my bad English
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 13 2012 16:47 GMT
#1785
On October 14 2012 01:46 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 01:45 Klipsys wrote:


look at most shock comics i.e bill hicks they usually have a fucking good point to make and shock comedy is the vehicle what stephano said was just disgusting for the sake of being disgusting.


There's no law that says you can't speak disgustingly to your friends. The only issue was it became public and he didn't want it to be. I think EG made the right call, but frankly people here need to lighten up. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't rape a child, he didn't do anything terrible except have sex with a younger person and then joke to bling about it. Big deal, worse shit happens daily.


There is nothing beyond literally interpreting what he said to back this up.



Okay and? You think someone rapes a child and then rushes home to tell his friends about it? Of course I'm going on what he said, there isn't anything else to go on!
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ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 16:47:42
October 13 2012 16:47 GMT
#1786
On October 14 2012 01:46 Klipsys wrote:
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On October 14 2012 01:44 ElephantBaby wrote:
What's the age limit for France when it comes to have sex with teenagers?

wiki says 15, but some people are saying it's 18 and some people online said it 13 so who the fuck knows.

I think the french just call it "when she's ready"


Seems that French people are good at sex, because they practice early.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 13 2012 16:49 GMT
#1787
On October 14 2012 01:46 ohampatu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 01:45 Klipsys wrote:


look at most shock comics i.e bill hicks they usually have a fucking good point to make and shock comedy is the vehicle what stephano said was just disgusting for the sake of being disgusting.


There's no law that says you can't speak disgustingly to your friends. The only issue was it became public and he didn't want it to be. I think EG made the right call, but frankly people here need to lighten up. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't rape a child, he didn't do anything terrible except have sex with a younger person and then joke to bling about it. Big deal, worse shit happens daily.



I know a guy who went to prison for 3 years for this.

13 year old girl. Went to his house and seduced him. Parents found out, notified police, rest is history.


Stephano should be lucky its just a 1 month suspension. I bet the parents of the girl he fucked doesn't know, if they did I doubt the pro-scene would have Stephano anymore.



Different country bro. And your friend is an idiot for putting his dick anywhere near a 13 year old girl in the USA. That's just fucking stupid and i have no sympathy for him. How does a 13 year old even seduce someone? How much sexual experience could they really have?
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DreamTheaterFan
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada52 Posts
October 13 2012 16:49 GMT
#1788
It's a sponsor move. EG can afford all of these players and the training environnement because of all that corporate money. Truth is, EG wouldn't care about what seemed to be nothing more than a (bad) joke, everything about the statement letter to Stephano's apology has been written by the upper echelon of the organisation.

What bothers me is: Idra (who I like as a player...) has said countless things that shocked me way more and has overall a much more dubious behavior than Stephano and I don't see any suspension or anything...
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 16:52:22
October 13 2012 16:50 GMT
#1789
On October 14 2012 01:47 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 01:46 rd wrote:
On October 14 2012 01:45 Klipsys wrote:


look at most shock comics i.e bill hicks they usually have a fucking good point to make and shock comedy is the vehicle what stephano said was just disgusting for the sake of being disgusting.


There's no law that says you can't speak disgustingly to your friends. The only issue was it became public and he didn't want it to be. I think EG made the right call, but frankly people here need to lighten up. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't rape a child, he didn't do anything terrible except have sex with a younger person and then joke to bling about it. Big deal, worse shit happens daily.


There is nothing beyond literally interpreting what he said to back this up.



Okay and? You think someone rapes a child and then rushes home to tell his friends about it? Of course I'm going on what he said, there isn't anything else to go on!


Stop saying he raped a child, first. Secondly, he stated it was a joke afterwards. Thirdly, even if it was true, we also don't know where this actually happened. If it was anywhere in the states, it would be statutory rape. If it was in some of the various countries of Europe, it could have been legal.

EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I would like to apologize for my conversation with @dignitasBlinG during his stream. It was just a private joke, nothing serious, sorry !
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 13 2012 16:53 GMT
#1790
On October 14 2012 01:50 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 01:47 Klipsys wrote:
On October 14 2012 01:46 rd wrote:
On October 14 2012 01:45 Klipsys wrote:


look at most shock comics i.e bill hicks they usually have a fucking good point to make and shock comedy is the vehicle what stephano said was just disgusting for the sake of being disgusting.


There's no law that says you can't speak disgustingly to your friends. The only issue was it became public and he didn't want it to be. I think EG made the right call, but frankly people here need to lighten up. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't rape a child, he didn't do anything terrible except have sex with a younger person and then joke to bling about it. Big deal, worse shit happens daily.


There is nothing beyond literally interpreting what he said to back this up.



Okay and? You think someone rapes a child and then rushes home to tell his friends about it? Of course I'm going on what he said, there isn't anything else to go on!


Stop saying he raped a child, first. Secondly, he stated it was a joke afterwards. Thirdly, even if it was true, we also don't know where this actually happened. If it was anywhere in the states, it would be statutory rape. If it was in some of the various countries of Europe, it could have been legal.

Show nested quote +
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I would like to apologize for my conversation with @dignitasBlinG during his stream. It was just a private joke, nothing serious, sorry !



So what's your point then? That I came to an obvious conclusion based on the given evidence?

Thanks I guess?
Hudson Valley Progamer
Revenger
Profile Joined September 2010
United States74 Posts
October 13 2012 16:53 GMT
#1791
On October 14 2012 01:47 kvmetternich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 01:19 bigbadgreen wrote:
1. it was not intended to be public.

2. ppl should not care. its his private stuff.

3. if some1 is offended due to talk about sexuality then its his problem.


1. it doesn't matter if it was intended to be private, it went public
2. it's not private anymore. people do care, he is a public figure representing a company who pays him

3. it wasn't about sexuality, it was about child abuse. the joke wasn't about sex, it was about abuse, there is a very big difference.

personally I'm not offended by it, it's obviously a joke but i do find it interesting that people can't wrap their heads around why a company would suspend somebody in this situation. this would happen in any workplace where a comment could cost a company money and this action stops that.


I disagree.

So, there's the legitimacy to take YOUR private talks and give it to pubic and justify this with a laconic "Sorry, it went public".
Seems legit and Big Brother would approve.
Unfortunatelly, this is not 1984 Eurasia And no, it's not importart if you are a politician, an esport star or a private guy. Privacy is sacred is inviolable.
If private stuff went public the guilty one is who make it public not the one who spoke.

In this case the punishment is deserverd for the lack of attention 'cause the other guy was streaming and not for the joke itself.

Sorry for my bad English

So let me get this right. I will you give you an example. If a person at work has a chat with a friend and jokes about abuse with a minor. If these chat logs gets to the employer then it is not the person fault for having private chat with a friend and making inappropriate jokes? It is the employee responsibility to not be offending and make sure they are professional he can joke all he wants private but not when working. This is how I see it playing the game and streaming is your work and if you have any conversation that is offending during it you should be reliable for it.
laee
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany137 Posts
October 13 2012 16:53 GMT
#1792
wow he excused it and still got suspended. i wuld find anoother team.
bagklog
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark14 Posts
October 13 2012 16:54 GMT
#1793
Ha this is awesome!
It reminds me of a certain drawing of some important religious figure, that happened here in Denmark. It was meant as a joke, but got blown completely out of proportion, when people saw it stripped from context and explanation from the author. It started out as a joke, ended up hurting way to many people, just from stupidity and overreaction. And Stephanos comment wasn't even meant for the public. Untill i see a police-warrant for Stephano, or the 14 year old girl herself, saying he abused her, any sanction against Stephano is stupid.

worst case scenario for E.G is, now Stephano got a really good reason to grab the next lucrative contract coming his way.

Anyway, still thinks it's funny.
ElmOaid
Profile Joined June 2011
Sudan41 Posts
October 13 2012 16:55 GMT
#1794
They can't afford him. Shame on them ruining his reputation for few dollars. Idra was bm all his life....EG...why...
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
October 13 2012 16:55 GMT
#1795
On October 14 2012 01:53 laee wrote:
wow he excused it and still got suspended. i wuld find anoother team.


sure, once his contract runs out
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
October 13 2012 16:55 GMT
#1796
On October 14 2012 01:55 ElmOaid wrote:
They can't afford him. Shame on them ruining his reputation for few dollars. Idra was bm all his life....EG...why...


If idra made those jokes, FBI will knock on his doors.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
October 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#1797
On October 14 2012 01:53 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 01:50 rd wrote:
On October 14 2012 01:47 Klipsys wrote:
On October 14 2012 01:46 rd wrote:
On October 14 2012 01:45 Klipsys wrote:


look at most shock comics i.e bill hicks they usually have a fucking good point to make and shock comedy is the vehicle what stephano said was just disgusting for the sake of being disgusting.


There's no law that says you can't speak disgustingly to your friends. The only issue was it became public and he didn't want it to be. I think EG made the right call, but frankly people here need to lighten up. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't rape a child, he didn't do anything terrible except have sex with a younger person and then joke to bling about it. Big deal, worse shit happens daily.


There is nothing beyond literally interpreting what he said to back this up.



Okay and? You think someone rapes a child and then rushes home to tell his friends about it? Of course I'm going on what he said, there isn't anything else to go on!


Stop saying he raped a child, first. Secondly, he stated it was a joke afterwards. Thirdly, even if it was true, we also don't know where this actually happened. If it was anywhere in the states, it would be statutory rape. If it was in some of the various countries of Europe, it could have been legal.

EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I would like to apologize for my conversation with @dignitasBlinG during his stream. It was just a private joke, nothing serious, sorry !



So what's your point then? That I came to an obvious conclusion based on the given evidence?

Thanks I guess?


That isn't an obvious conclusion. Stop behaving like a damn computer.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
laee
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany137 Posts
October 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#1798
On October 14 2012 01:54 bagklog wrote:
Ha this is awesome!
It reminds me of a certain drawing of some important religious figure, that happened here in Denmark. It was meant as a joke, but got blown completely out of proportion, when people saw it stripped from context and explanation from the author. It started out as a joke, ended up hurting way to many people, just from stupidity and overreaction. And Stephanos comment wasn't even meant for the public. Untill i see a police-warrant for Stephano, or the 14 year old girl herself, saying he abused her, any sanction against Stephano is stupid.

worst case scenario for E.G is, now Stephano got a really good reason to grab the next lucrative contract coming his way.



exaclty. would be so baller to change teawm
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
October 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#1799
On October 14 2012 01:49 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 01:46 ohampatu wrote:
On October 14 2012 01:45 Klipsys wrote:


look at most shock comics i.e bill hicks they usually have a fucking good point to make and shock comedy is the vehicle what stephano said was just disgusting for the sake of being disgusting.


There's no law that says you can't speak disgustingly to your friends. The only issue was it became public and he didn't want it to be. I think EG made the right call, but frankly people here need to lighten up. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't rape a child, he didn't do anything terrible except have sex with a younger person and then joke to bling about it. Big deal, worse shit happens daily.



I know a guy who went to prison for 3 years for this.

13 year old girl. Went to his house and seduced him. Parents found out, notified police, rest is history.


Stephano should be lucky its just a 1 month suspension. I bet the parents of the girl he fucked doesn't know, if they did I doubt the pro-scene would have Stephano anymore.



Different country bro. And your friend is an idiot for putting his dick anywhere near a 13 year old girl in the USA. That's just fucking stupid and i have no sympathy for him. How does a 13 year old even seduce someone? How much sexual experience could they really have?



Just giving an example of how this can fuck people up. Just because its a different country doesn't mean Stephano didn't break the law in his own country, because he did. 15 is the age for most areas in Europe, and generally it all depends on whether of not the parents decide to press charges or not.

Be happy r/srs didn't find out who he fucked and contact their parents is all im saying.
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#1800
On October 14 2012 01:53 laee wrote:
wow he excused it and still got suspended. i wuld find anoother team.



no, if anything EG acted very appropriately. For them to take no action would be silly and costly.
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