EPTNot saying he should've done it ofcourse. Just saying don't focus on it so much.
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
Not saying he should've done it ofcourse. Just saying don't focus on it so much. | ||
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aloT
England1042 Posts
If you folks want esports to take off, you need to understand that people outside of 4chan do not automatically devalue every offensive comment just because it was written online. And it's not their problem. It's yours. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 13 2012 19:33 Ohhsee wrote: Your not exactly a public figure. Only know of your name from the Tl streams and they have people like Protech featured lol. Nice try though. Just because you don't know cloud doesn't mean anyone else does, BW and European fans know cloud. | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:01 FuRong wrote: Huge overreaction in my opinion. He said himself that he was joking about the whole thing, just another witch-hunt for no reason. Soon enough we're gonna have enough victims of these "scandals" to start a support group =/ hahahahaha , maybe . just seems like this happens err day | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
On October 13 2012 19:48 Dundron2000 wrote: common misconception, but yea if you believe that i can see why you would be upset. in the real existing world however (which the internet is a part of) actions have consequences Why do you think we all enjoy the internet so much? Because there is tasteless shit out there that nobody in reallife would bring up. Because we can behave like childish teenagers and we can make tasteless jokes and nobody is offended (well ironicly if you are in the spotlight people are). We love the internet the way it is because it seperates from "real life". It is so much more free than the "real world" and thats why people get mad over ACTA and SOPA. What would you say if the "internet" is regulated and dealt with the same way real life is. I guess you wont like that. And Cloud is completely right. Why the fuck should someone change just because more people are having an eye on him? Hypocrits everywhere. | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:03 aloT wrote: There is alot of young or naive people in here rushing to defend him as having some kind of internet right to say dumb things. If he was a professional in a sports league he would be referred to criminal prosecution at worst, or a sports body investigation at best. There are more instances of esports players saying inappropriate comments in a single month than the entire playerbase of the Premier League in a whole season, and they all use the internet to communicate too. If you folks want esports to take off, you need to understand that people outside of 4chan do not automatically devalue every offensive comment just because it was written online. And it's not their problem. It's yours. This sums up what i was trying to say . People have to stop saying ": that didn't offend me so its dumb it offended others" | ||
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Drayven
United States7 Posts
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:04 Sokrates wrote: Why do you think we all enjoy the internet so much? Because there is tasteless shit out there that nobody in reallife would bring up. Because we can behave like childish teenagers and we can make tasteless jokes and nobody is offended (well ironicly if you are in the spotlight people are). We love the internet the way it is because it seperates from "real life". It is so much more free than the "real world" and thats why people get mad over ACTA and SOPA. What would you say if the "internet" is regulated and dealt with the same way real life is. I guess you wont like that. And Cloud is completely right. Why the fuck should someone change just because more people are having an eye on him? Hypocrits everywhere. Shouldn't change but maybe sensor ? When your on the job be professional., private life and jokes among friends are for those exactly. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
Everyone everywhee in the world is getting WAY to easy to offend. If he said that in an office people would laugh. Yet he is at work playing with people he knows Getting arrested - lol. But nothing to do with sc2. People watching other people need to remember that the point of voyeurism is not to be seen. I mean its not half as bad as asking 'does it make you gay if another man sucks your cock while you are asleep and you get a hard on?' I could probably do a top 1000 of office comments and jokes from over the years that are FAAAAR more offensive than this and have resulted in absolutley zero reprocussions precisley because everyone knows its a joke. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:06 MrTortoise wrote: this is stupid. Everyone everywhee in the world is getting WAY to easy to offend. If he said that in an office people would laugh. Yet he is at work playing with people he knows Getting arrested - lol. But nothing to do with sc2. People watching other people need to remember that the point of voyeurism is not to be seen. Actually if you were in the office and said I fucked a 14 year old i only like kids and milfs . I am sure people would laugh but if your boss heard im sure shit would go down. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:07 Incomplet wrote: Remember folks, just because something is a "joke" doesnt mean it isnt offensive or just a bad joke in general to others. And whatever goes in France is completely irrelevant, EG is an American team and so its American rules. Kiddies need to grow up and learn a little about how the real world works. *people* take offense to things. The words themselves are not offensive because they aer out of context. It is *you* interpreteation of them that is choosing to take offense. one word Tolerance another word that americans should be comfortable with Freedom. Another set of words - easily offended emos. You are right kiddies DO need to grow up and realise that they are choosing to take offense and be over reactionary at every little thing because their sad little lives are meaningless so they desperatley seek to have any effect on the world by trolling and being all morally superior. Everyone has laughed at a joke with dark sense of humor. Its what makes us think. | ||
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Cri du Chat
Germany606 Posts
Doesnt look like much fun to play for EG. | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:10 MrTortoise wrote: *people* take offense to things. The words themselves are not offensive because they aer out of context. It is *you* interpreteation of them that is choosing to take offense. one word Tolerance another word that americans should be comfortable with Freedom. Another set of words - easily offended emos. If a large enough group of people take offense to things then you have a problem which needs rectification. Tolerance is fine and good so is freedom but thats not what is being argued here. EDIT: Also there is a thing called liberty that americans believe in , it operates under the harm principle Harm principle : The harm principle holds that each individual has the right to act as he wants, so long as these actions do not harm others. | ||
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Paladia
802 Posts
On October 13 2012 19:25 mememolly wrote: or maybe you should be more considerate to the fact that he's joking, a young kid placed in a high profile position, he is human and prone to "mistakes", he was talking to a friend who happened to be streaming, and also he can't assume that everyone is stupid and will take the joke out of context etc There is no reason for me to be anything, I am not the one paying him. If I did run a company and paid him to be a representative of the company, I wouldn't want him publically say things such as "Take my whole arm up your ass" or "Eat my bloody vagina" as he did in this game: http://de.twitch.tv/egstephano/b/330792766 It isn't something I would want to be associated with my company. If you take the money from a company to represent them, that also includes responsibilities. If you don't want those responsibilities, then it is simple, don't take their money as they will want positive representation in return and for you to act sensibly. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:09 Shakattak wrote: Actually if you were in the office and said I fucked a 14 year old i only like kids and milfs . I am sure people would laugh but if your boss heard im sure shit would go down. Not true at all. That completley depends on where you works and who your boss is. Obviously. Because of context. could someone then try and cause trouble about it. Sure ... but they would be recognized as being a dick. Because everyone knows what the situation is. If it is true then its a police matter. Its called being petty. | ||
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Evangelist
1246 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:03 aloT wrote: There is alot of young or naive people in here rushing to defend him as having some kind of internet right to say dumb things. If he was a professional in a sports league he would be referred to criminal prosecution at worst, or a sports body investigation at best. There are more instances of esports players saying inappropriate comments in a single month than the entire playerbase of the Premier League in a whole season, and they all use the internet to communicate too. If you folks want esports to take off, you need to understand that people outside of 4chan do not automatically devalue every offensive comment just because it was written online. And it's not their problem. It's yours. Rooney said "fuck" on camera once and was banned for a few matches as well as fined. If a player said they fucked a 14 year old they'd be instantly banned from their team as well as reported to the authorities and the police. The manager himself would kick the player out on his arse, and the league would end his pro career effective immediately. You people are idiots. Do you have any idea how serious allegations like this are IRL? People have been jailed for less in Britain, you know. | ||
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Bulkers
Poland509 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:01 FuRong wrote: Huge overreaction in my opinion. He said himself that he was joking about the whole thing, just another witch-hunt for no reason. Soon enough we're gonna have enough victims of these "scandals" to start a support group =/ People need to realize, that if we want eSports to be as big as other sports, players needs to behave like profesionals. Jokes about child abuse and having sex with 14 years old are below person that call himself profesional player that is playing for one of the biggest eSport organizations. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On October 13 2012 19:32 CoR wrote: its same like in france i think after 14 you can have sex BUT if the other is over 21 its still dangerous for him when people argue the 14 year old person was "to young" and didnt know what to do after 16 its totaly ok to have sex with everyone you want no one cares anymore BUt since stephano is 19 its still no problem have sex with 14+ in germany at least and i am 99% sure in france too we're not in prude america ^^ this is sexual open europe guys  i saw in usa 30 years jail for teacher woman who had wanted sex with a 17 year old boy xD such a joke in germany everone would just said "what a baller guy" Sorry - but please look up stuff before you talk about it. Age of consent is 15 in France. Also your teacher-student example would also get the teacher in a lot of trouble in Germany (§174 StGB) | ||
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