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StraTkSloth
United States181 Posts
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
how are the EG contracts designed to allow EG to stop him playing in tournaments and not paying him salary for a month. Obviously their contracts have a article like "dont hurt your team with stupid comments" but it was a "private" chat. So they don´t giving him money that he deserves. Is this a US thing because in the EU there is no way to get away with that on an employee contract. | ||
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Wholigan
12 Posts
On October 13 2012 08:31 Dr.Sin wrote: Wow. I am shocked to see this since I am a fan of Stephano's, but I'm glad EG is setting forth a standard for the industry. Teehee, ”the industry”. All of a sudden making jokes is bad because it hurts the industry, and we want the industry, we want a machine spewing out dollars. Teehee. | ||
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Savant
United States379 Posts
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Almtom
Sweden132 Posts
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
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Razac
Netherlands101 Posts
On October 15 2012 22:10 Almtom wrote: Pay the man his money! What man...? I see a kid that is acting Irresponsible and deserves severe punishment. He gets what he deserves in my opinion, all you can hope when you are a fan of him is that he leans something of it... | ||
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
STEPHANO OP lol | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On October 15 2012 22:45 mikedebo wrote: I swear to god I read this subject title as "Evil Geniuses suspended by Stephano" STEPHANO OP lol loool well said. If I were Stephano, this would leave a really bad taste in my month. Minutes after signing a lucrative contract, getting suspended for a message in private chat. If you can't even chat freely, what can you do? With talent like he has, he shouldn't be taking this shit from anyone, less his employer. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On October 15 2012 22:45 mikedebo wrote: I swear to god I read this subject title as "Evil Geniuses suspended by Stephano" STEPHANO OP lol I did the same, the first couple of times actually. Thought I was the only one who misread it xD | ||
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Grollicus
Germany287 Posts
On October 15 2012 21:58 USvBleakill wrote:how are the EG contracts designed to allow EG to stop him playing in tournaments and not paying him salary for a month. Obviously their contracts have a article like "dont hurt your team with stupid comments" but it was a "private" chat. So they don´t giving him money that he deserves. Is this a US thing because in the EU there is no way to get away with that on an employee contract. Depends. If you wanted to stay in your job you better wouldn't sue in Germany, either  | ||
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StreetWise
United States594 Posts
On October 15 2012 22:15 USvBleakill wrote: Well, in my opinion they should take that money and donate it to some aid organization for sexual abused teenagers. THAT would be the right response and not we keep the money and don´t let him play because the sponsors are worried about bad PR. The most intelligent response I have read so far. It is kind of odd that they would simply not pay him. What is the point of punishing someone without taking positive steps in the area where he messed up. This goes not for the player but the organization. | ||
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TeslasPigeon
464 Posts
On October 15 2012 21:58 USvBleakill wrote: besides the fact that even saying "i fu?&%ed a 14 year old girl" is ridiculously stupid i have a question: how are the EG contracts designed to allow EG to stop him playing in tournaments and not paying him salary for a month. Obviously their contracts have a article like "dont hurt your team with stupid comments" but it was a "private" chat. So they don´t giving him money that he deserves. Is this a US thing because in the EU there is no way to get away with that on an employee contract. A lot of employees are bound by a creed of ethics on how they are to behave outside their profession. Take teaching professions. In some districts (different states in the US are divided up into different school districts, each district having their own curriculum, standards, and rules for both teachers and students) teachers can't be seen engaging in behavior that would hurt the schools image. This could mean public drinking, going to clubs, or having sex with students. This is easily enforced because when you want a job, you will most likely sign a contract. This contract, depending on the State, can be enforced easily or heavily. Since EG can easily be seen as a brand rather than an e-sports team, sponsorships mean everything to them. Another important thing to note is that EG is located in New Mexico, which I believe is a right to work state meaning that employers could fire you at will with little to no notice. But EG seems like a stand up employer, they pay their employees decent salaries and seem overly fair when it comes to situations such as this. I'm sure EG has a very simple publicity contract stating that players are not to engage in behavior that might hurt EGs image, such behaviors include racial remarks or sentiments, acts of violence, etc etc. This is pretty standard protocol for a lot of jobs that require public appearances and images. If you hurt your employers image because of your antics, they will punish/fine you. You're being pad to represent and promote EG, not to be awesome at starcraft which is just a side benefit. Many professions, such as lawyers, journalists, engineers, nurses, and doctors abide by a rule of ethical guidelines and indeed some of these professionals have their own committees that are known to expel people from practicing their profession. Think of disbarring lawyers from practicing law. Or terminating medical licenses for malfeasance and neglect. Many countries have committees such as these for different professions. | ||
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Almtom
Sweden132 Posts
On October 15 2012 22:23 Razac wrote: What man...? I see a kid that is acting Irresponsible and deserves severe punishment. He gets what he deserves in my opinion, all you can hope when you are a fan of him is that he leans something of it... Maybee so but i bet he was just joking around so who cares? He didnt mean for it to get out. Also i dont see how EG can have the right to withhold sallary because of this. Probably a breach of the employment contract | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On October 15 2012 23:18 Almtom wrote: Maybee so but i bet he was just joking around so who cares? He didnt mean for it to get out. Also i dont see how EG can have the right to withhold sallary because of this. Probably a breach of the employment contract There is no doubt a clause regarding player conduct and Stephano knew or should have known talking to other professional players over battle.net carries the risk of your conversation being streamed live. It's even quite possible that he knew it was being streamed. I'm not an expert on contract law, but I'm fairly confident that, for instance, all professional athlete contracts include such clauses. Of course the exact terms may vary, but this kind of clauses are especially important when the other party is still a teenager (stephano). The purpose of the clause is to deal with situations that can potentially lead to reputational damage. Suspension without pay when there is an expressed or implied contract term allowing that is perfectly normal. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On October 15 2012 23:18 Almtom wrote: Maybee so but i bet he was just joking around so who cares? He didnt mean for it to get out. Also i dont see how EG can have the right to withhold sallary because of this. Probably a breach of the employment contract Can we please stop talking about a contract that they got and we don't know ANYTHING about... | ||
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bagklog
Denmark14 Posts
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Fanta_Rules
Sweden669 Posts
Edit: Stephano is the only reason I even watch Starcraft II tournaments, nowadays. Without him, every tourney is bound to end up with a Korean top 5 (or even top 10). If I see that Stephano isn't participating in a tournament, I don't even bother watching it. It was a god damn joke. I don't get how it's funny, or anything, but he didn't know that it was showed on stream. It wasn't his intention to hurt EG. EG are hurting themselves by doing this. | ||
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Racetrack
Australia16 Posts
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
Jesus, you guys all need to watch some more soap operas if you are craving for some cheap drama this much. | ||
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