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tomcatEvE
Profile Joined September 2011
United States5 Posts
October 15 2012 04:13 GMT
#2521
EG Curse
What is this I don't even...
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5789 Posts
October 15 2012 04:28 GMT
#2522
On October 15 2012 13:03 ScienceGroen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 12:56 oBlade wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:49 ScienceGroen wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:47 Belisarius wrote:
Personally I think it's really silly that players are being beat on for what they say in private conversations. It's starting to happen to politicians as well. nobody is completely PC around their friends, and everyone makes over-the-line jokes from time to time. Unfortunately, whenever that happens these days, it's easy for the dirty laundry to be pulled out and waved around.

"Should be more careful" is the right response to a dumb situation.


Wasn't a private conversation. Said on a live stream in front of a public audience.

It was bling's stream, not the HD MLG stream or something, not even an EG stream. And the backlash didn't come from this community, it came from a vendetta-motivated subreddit. You wouldn't have even learned about this if they hadn't spammed sponsors, forcing a move from EG which results in this announcement thread and all the other coverage (e.g. kotaku). And if you had learned about it, you wouldn't have cared that much despite except your personal opinion about Stephano. It wasn't actually a big deal before the vindictive sponsor campaign.


Really doesn't matter at all why it became a story. It's a story, and it would make EG look like absolute crap if they let it slide.

Personally, I'm glad he got suspended simply because he forced me to think about child sexual abuse. I've never understood people who can laugh with images like that in their brain. "LOLOLOL SHE'LL CARRY THE SCARS FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE." Pure hilarity.

He could have said "bling i just killed a guy (((((((((((" would that get you thinking that maybe murder is bad? He said something on battle.net. If the things he says aren't to your taste, you can just ignore him. You don't have to pay any attention to him. (You could also in the process realize a man is not six lines he says on battle.net.) Why do you need a player to be suspended from a video game team in order to evaluate the most obvious parts of your morals?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
1a2a3a[MB]
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States297 Posts
October 15 2012 04:53 GMT
#2523
I am a firm believer that this was a joke EG will regret this.
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Xenomorph
Profile Joined May 2010
United States137 Posts
October 15 2012 05:14 GMT
#2524
It was a troll/joke I can't believe people are getting so bent out of shape. EG did the right thing to save face for sponsors and give themselves a decent name. Realistically I doubt anyone at EG felt that Stephano did anything wrong except joke around on a streaming game. I personally don't feel like Stephano should apologize at all (if his "apology" is even written by him)
Intrepid Traveler
jackalope1234
Profile Joined December 2010
122 Posts
October 15 2012 05:24 GMT
#2525
On October 15 2012 12:30 ScienceGroen wrote:
All of this defense is ridiculous. He said some horrible things that have potential to reflect badly on the brand he represents. EG has every right to defend their brand. Full stop.

There is zero chance his contract doesn't have a clause that states he can't act in ways that reflect badly on EG. You couldn't even say that kind of disgusting junk while working at McDonalds and not get suspended. Stephano certainly can't get away with saying it in front of a live audience while being a highly public representative of EG.

Also please stop calling it a joke. He just blurted out that he abused a child. That's not a joke.


You don't have a claim to the only sense of humour. Everyone finds different shit funny. Get over it.
Headhunts
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia8 Posts
October 15 2012 05:27 GMT
#2526
On October 15 2012 14:24 jackalope1234 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 12:30 ScienceGroen wrote:
All of this defense is ridiculous. He said some horrible things that have potential to reflect badly on the brand he represents. EG has every right to defend their brand. Full stop.

There is zero chance his contract doesn't have a clause that states he can't act in ways that reflect badly on EG. You couldn't even say that kind of disgusting junk while working at McDonalds and not get suspended. Stephano certainly can't get away with saying it in front of a live audience while being a highly public representative of EG.

Also please stop calling it a joke. He just blurted out that he abused a child. That's not a joke.


You don't have a claim to the only sense of humour. Everyone finds different shit funny. Get over it.


I guess when your 14 y.o child gets fucked by some creepy french guy, you will find that shit funny and get over it. Maybe share a beer with him and make a joke about it.
What need is there to cry over parts of life? The whole of it calls for it.
Xenomorph
Profile Joined May 2010
United States137 Posts
October 15 2012 05:28 GMT
#2527
Also by everyones rationalizing everything you might as well ban Idra for life for the "death threats" he has made to people.
Intrepid Traveler
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
October 15 2012 05:39 GMT
#2528
On October 15 2012 12:49 ScienceGroen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 12:47 Belisarius wrote:
Personally I think it's really silly that players are being beat on for what they say in private conversations. It's starting to happen to politicians as well. nobody is completely PC around their friends, and everyone makes over-the-line jokes from time to time. Unfortunately, whenever that happens these days, it's easy for the dirty laundry to be pulled out and waved around.

"Should be more careful" is the right response to a dumb situation.


Wasn't a private conversation. Said on a live stream in front of a public audience.

Yeah, think of the children. There could be 14 year olds watching and shitting themselves in fear at the possibility being abused by progamers.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5789 Posts
October 15 2012 05:45 GMT
#2529
On October 15 2012 14:27 Headhunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 14:24 jackalope1234 wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:30 ScienceGroen wrote:
All of this defense is ridiculous. He said some horrible things that have potential to reflect badly on the brand he represents. EG has every right to defend their brand. Full stop.

There is zero chance his contract doesn't have a clause that states he can't act in ways that reflect badly on EG. You couldn't even say that kind of disgusting junk while working at McDonalds and not get suspended. Stephano certainly can't get away with saying it in front of a live audience while being a highly public representative of EG.

Also please stop calling it a joke. He just blurted out that he abused a child. That's not a joke.


You don't have a claim to the only sense of humour. Everyone finds different shit funny. Get over it.


I guess when your 14 y.o child gets fucked by some creepy french guy, you will find that shit funny and get over it. Maybe share a beer with him and make a joke about it.

My 14 year old child, almost certainly like the phantom girl Stephano was alluding to, doesn't exist. And if I were raising her in a jurisdiction where 14 year olds could legally give consent, I wouldn't use that as a reason to automatically hate someone she spent time with. I don't think that'd be healthy.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
October 15 2012 06:07 GMT
#2530
On October 15 2012 14:27 Headhunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 14:24 jackalope1234 wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:30 ScienceGroen wrote:
All of this defense is ridiculous. He said some horrible things that have potential to reflect badly on the brand he represents. EG has every right to defend their brand. Full stop.

There is zero chance his contract doesn't have a clause that states he can't act in ways that reflect badly on EG. You couldn't even say that kind of disgusting junk while working at McDonalds and not get suspended. Stephano certainly can't get away with saying it in front of a live audience while being a highly public representative of EG.

Also please stop calling it a joke. He just blurted out that he abused a child. That's not a joke.


You don't have a claim to the only sense of humour. Everyone finds different shit funny. Get over it.


I guess when your 14 y.o child gets fucked by some creepy french guy, you will find that shit funny and get over it. Maybe share a beer with him and make a joke about it.


but since its absolutly legal you can be one of this dads hating around your daughters guys BUT you cant do NOTHING thats the fact of things being LEGAL we're in europe here ...
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Came Norrection
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada168 Posts
October 15 2012 06:07 GMT
#2531
On October 15 2012 14:45 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 14:27 Headhunts wrote:
On October 15 2012 14:24 jackalope1234 wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:30 ScienceGroen wrote:
All of this defense is ridiculous. He said some horrible things that have potential to reflect badly on the brand he represents. EG has every right to defend their brand. Full stop.

There is zero chance his contract doesn't have a clause that states he can't act in ways that reflect badly on EG. You couldn't even say that kind of disgusting junk while working at McDonalds and not get suspended. Stephano certainly can't get away with saying it in front of a live audience while being a highly public representative of EG.

Also please stop calling it a joke. He just blurted out that he abused a child. That's not a joke.


You don't have a claim to the only sense of humour. Everyone finds different shit funny. Get over it.


I guess when your 14 y.o child gets fucked by some creepy french guy, you will find that shit funny and get over it. Maybe share a beer with him and make a joke about it.

My 14 year old child, almost certainly like the phantom girl Stephano was alluding to, doesn't exist. And if I were raising her in a jurisdiction where 14 year olds could legally give consent, I wouldn't use that as a reason to automatically hate someone she spent time with. I don't think that'd be healthy.

maybe thats why you don't have a 14 yo
"The lie is just a great story ruined by the truth."
Came Norrection
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada168 Posts
October 15 2012 06:08 GMT
#2532
On October 15 2012 15:07 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 14:27 Headhunts wrote:
On October 15 2012 14:24 jackalope1234 wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:30 ScienceGroen wrote:
All of this defense is ridiculous. He said some horrible things that have potential to reflect badly on the brand he represents. EG has every right to defend their brand. Full stop.

There is zero chance his contract doesn't have a clause that states he can't act in ways that reflect badly on EG. You couldn't even say that kind of disgusting junk while working at McDonalds and not get suspended. Stephano certainly can't get away with saying it in front of a live audience while being a highly public representative of EG.

Also please stop calling it a joke. He just blurted out that he abused a child. That's not a joke.


You don't have a claim to the only sense of humour. Everyone finds different shit funny. Get over it.


I guess when your 14 y.o child gets fucked by some creepy french guy, you will find that shit funny and get over it. Maybe share a beer with him and make a joke about it.


but since its absolutly legal you can be one of this dads hating around your daughters guys BUT you cant do NOTHING thats the fact of things being LEGAL we're in europe here ...

you have control over your kid until they are an adult.
"The lie is just a great story ruined by the truth."
bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 06:18:47
October 15 2012 06:13 GMT
#2533
My personal belief they are calling it a joke is a cover up. There is really no way to know unless you ask Stephano yourself. Currently he is in damage control mode where he tries to minimize the damage from his mistake. This can be seen from his apology as he was rather quick to make one publicly. He is also not speaking about it any further because what he might say could make things worse. Joke or not you do not make those jokes when you represent a company with corporate interests at hand. I do not go into my office and make jokes about my sexual preferences or children/teens to my coworkers. If anything he should be thankful that he did not get kicked off as most people in the "workforce" would just get fired immediately. Esports is a very tolerant business and in the real world this would be many times worse regardless of country or nationality. Companies do not want employees who represent them poorly and could damage them in any way.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5789 Posts
October 15 2012 06:17 GMT
#2534
On October 15 2012 15:07 Came Norrection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 14:45 oBlade wrote:
On October 15 2012 14:27 Headhunts wrote:
On October 15 2012 14:24 jackalope1234 wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:30 ScienceGroen wrote:
All of this defense is ridiculous. He said some horrible things that have potential to reflect badly on the brand he represents. EG has every right to defend their brand. Full stop.

There is zero chance his contract doesn't have a clause that states he can't act in ways that reflect badly on EG. You couldn't even say that kind of disgusting junk while working at McDonalds and not get suspended. Stephano certainly can't get away with saying it in front of a live audience while being a highly public representative of EG.

Also please stop calling it a joke. He just blurted out that he abused a child. That's not a joke.


You don't have a claim to the only sense of humour. Everyone finds different shit funny. Get over it.


I guess when your 14 y.o child gets fucked by some creepy french guy, you will find that shit funny and get over it. Maybe share a beer with him and make a joke about it.

My 14 year old child, almost certainly like the phantom girl Stephano was alluding to, doesn't exist. And if I were raising her in a jurisdiction where 14 year olds could legally give consent, I wouldn't use that as a reason to automatically hate someone she spent time with. I don't think that'd be healthy.

maybe thats why you don't have a 14 yo

It could be the fact that 14 years and 9 months ago, I wasn't fertile or in a committed relationship with a fertile female. Not that what you said is logically relevant to anything.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 06:26:35
October 15 2012 06:18 GMT
#2535
On October 15 2012 13:53 1a2a3a[MB] wrote:
I am a firm believer that this was a joke EG will regret this.


no, they won't.

why? because eg is the most lucrative gaming team in america. they PRIDE themselves on their sponsorships. ANYTHING even remotely giving off a bad impression of them and therefore to the sponsors and the people who endorse them financially will be cut off and dealt with accordingly. eg is literally just another dog to these sponsors and will bend over at any given moment a main sponsor doesn't like something.

and to those thinking the technicalities of the laws differentiates is what matters, wrong. All that matters is, how it looks in the eyes of america / americans, since those are the ones who give money to the sponsors and thus back to EG.
let's take an exaggerated example as an analogy, let's say EG signed a player who, in another country murdered on a yearly basis. the murder itself is "legal" in the country for argument sakes. how does that look in our market? under our laws and morals of what's right and wrong? no matter what, at the end of the day the majority of us are under the impression it's "wrong" due to our (america's) law's.

now i know this example is way out there, but what i'm trying to portray is, it doesn't matter what we technically think is right or how his punishment should be, even if we are right and can read inbetween the lines unlike most. all that matters is the people who give EG their money, reframe from and any negative impression / damage done to reputation because it directly affects them financially, thus affects EG financially.
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
October 15 2012 06:22 GMT
#2536
i always thought being a good parent precludes any concern of the effects of something so trivial toward their children.
but i guess a few sentences can erode good parentage to some.

bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
October 15 2012 06:23 GMT
#2537
On October 15 2012 15:18 saocyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 13:53 1a2a3a[MB] wrote:
I am a firm believer that this was a joke EG will regret this.


no, they won't.

why? because eg is the most lucrative gaming team in america. they PRIDE themselves on their sponsorships. ANYTHING even remotely giving off a bad impression of them and therefore to the sponsors and the people who endorse them financially will be cut off and dealt with accordingly. eg is literally just another dog to these sponsors and will bend over at any given moment a main sponsor doesn't like something.

Currently sponsors are what make the Esports world work right now. Literally there are limited number of cash flow channels available. You talk as if it is bad trying to please the sponsors so they can keep putting money into Esports. Remember that Esports is a growing business and as such needs to be treated as one. I already stated my points in a previous post but teams trying to set forth some kind of standard in the Esports world is admirable. A firm example is look at all the Korean teams and how they operate. Yes they might have some troll names in their lineups and quirky "ceremonies", but in the end they are very professional.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
October 15 2012 06:44 GMT
#2538
On October 15 2012 13:53 1a2a3a[MB] wrote:
I am a firm believer that this was a joke EG will regret this.


I'm sorry, how exactly will they regret upholding their reputation with their sponsors and sending a message to their player to better conduct himself? You do realize this is a business and the players are the image of the sponsor right?

And I don't see why you felt the need to write your post in bright red. You didn't even make any arguments.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
October 15 2012 06:46 GMT
#2539
On October 15 2012 15:44 TechNoTrance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 13:53 1a2a3a[MB] wrote:
I am a firm believer that this was a joke EG will regret this.


I'm sorry, how exactly will they regret upholding their reputation with their sponsors and sending a message to their player to better conduct himself? You do realize this is a business and the players are the image of the sponsor right?

And I don't see why you felt the need to write your post in bright red. You didn't even make any arguments.

Pro-Players are "Professionals" that must act like one. I also agree with your post that the players are the image of their sponsors.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
October 15 2012 06:49 GMT
#2540
EG and Root really came down hard on their players, Its good to see a high standard being set for the eSports players. I hope LoL call follow in the same foot steps. I havent seen remarkable behavior out of the pro LoL players lately.
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