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On October 19 2013 22:27 Facultyadjutant wrote:it drew 40.000$ on kickstarter by 880 people 5 backers pledged 1000$ each 15 backers pledged $350 each 23 backers pledged $175 each 239 backers pledged $55 each That's huge amount of money individuals have payed The fuss isn't just about a delay, it is about a broken promise and tens of thousand dollars, some individuals payed hundreds to a thousand dollars for it.
Kickstarters have the finality of funding the project, if he's still delivering the project it shouldn't really matter how long it takes. I've helped fund some games that are delayed and I'm not having a fit, delays happen. A book I kickstarted is delayed for an entire year as well, I'll still read my copy all the same.
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On October 20 2013 12:03 Backlash123 wrote:
In all fairness two years to have a documentary released would be quite impressive to say the least. That being said they should have realized that they wouldn't be able to do it and I highly doubt they are working THAT hard to have it out soon that the couldn't make a tweet to update that it's being delayed. If they were at least tangible in what is happening they could take another 5 years and it wouldn't be this bad if they just let the donors know where their money is at. Shouldn't be too difficult considering it was promised to the donors, honestly they could just give the money to charity if this isn't going to happen although that being said I really do hope it will be out at blizzcon because I am excited to see what it turned out as and hopefully everybody learns a lesson from this.
I think 2 years is ok as well, i recently saw the smash brothers documentary, and it took him 2 years, that was fantastic. i hope this will be good as well. 5 years ... ehh then its a bit too long.
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On October 20 2013 12:30 jax1492 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 12:03 Backlash123 wrote:
In all fairness two years to have a documentary released would be quite impressive to say the least. That being said they should have realized that they wouldn't be able to do it and I highly doubt they are working THAT hard to have it out soon that the couldn't make a tweet to update that it's being delayed. If they were at least tangible in what is happening they could take another 5 years and it wouldn't be this bad if they just let the donors know where their money is at. Shouldn't be too difficult considering it was promised to the donors, honestly they could just give the money to charity if this isn't going to happen although that being said I really do hope it will be out at blizzcon because I am excited to see what it turned out as and hopefully everybody learns a lesson from this. I think 2 years is ok as well, i recently saw the smash brothers documentary, and it took him 2 years, that was fantastic. i hope this will be good as well. 5 years ... ehh then its a bit too long.
That documentary took that long, but was much less funded with a much smaller team. And the guy give timeframes and constant updates, and also documented important things that happened during the filming.
For this? who really knows. It's the uncertainty that's hurting it the most.
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On October 20 2013 11:53 BigKahunaBurger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 03:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 19 2013 16:47 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
Everyone can try and divert attention away from the issue, even with InControl and TB coming into this thread is some bizarre attempt to save face, but that fact remains.
The people who donated money to this have been treated horribly, the people making the documentary have acted unprofessionally and the documentary, after two years, is still not out
These are incontrovertible facts. Everything else is pointless to argue about. Yup that's it, I'm being paid by BIG DOCUMENTARY to try and divert attention from the REAL ISSUES. This forum and its hilarious conspiracy theories I didn't say you were being paid to divert attention from it. I said, you came into this thread and took it completely off tangent to save face for yourself. This thread is not about you, nor is it about inControl or the nature of caster's salaries. If you want to try and change the topic, start a new thread. This is about the documentary Sons of Starcraft. Please stay on topic.
how did taking it off topic save face? it really just sounds like you have something against the guy.
On October 20 2013 12:20 Auronz wrote:
Kickstarters have the finality of funding the project, if he's still delivering the project it shouldn't really matter how long it takes. I've helped fund some games that are delayed and I'm not having a fit, delays happen. A book I kickstarted is delayed for an entire year as well, I'll still read my copy all the same.
As others have said, its not that its taking ages- its a doco, a good doco takes time. its the fact that the creator cant take 10 minutes a month to respond to emails or communicate that he's still working on the project, there have been 0 worthwhile updates since a trailer was posted a year ago. Hopefully we'll see it around blizzcon though!
This one
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On October 20 2013 12:37 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 12:30 jax1492 wrote:On October 20 2013 12:03 Backlash123 wrote:
In all fairness two years to have a documentary released would be quite impressive to say the least. That being said they should have realized that they wouldn't be able to do it and I highly doubt they are working THAT hard to have it out soon that the couldn't make a tweet to update that it's being delayed. If they were at least tangible in what is happening they could take another 5 years and it wouldn't be this bad if they just let the donors know where their money is at. Shouldn't be too difficult considering it was promised to the donors, honestly they could just give the money to charity if this isn't going to happen although that being said I really do hope it will be out at blizzcon because I am excited to see what it turned out as and hopefully everybody learns a lesson from this. I think 2 years is ok as well, i recently saw the smash brothers documentary, and it took him 2 years, that was fantastic. i hope this will be good as well. 5 years ... ehh then its a bit too long. That documentary took that long, but was much less funded with a much smaller team. And the guy give timeframes and constant updates, and also documented important things that happened during the filming. For this? who really knows. It's the uncertainty that's hurting it the most.
Yeah I think the problem isn't the time it's taking to get this made, it's more an issue of there being almost no communication with the people who paid for it to be made...
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There was a discussion on Live on Three last week with the maker of The Smash Brothers, a kickstarted documentary about the Smash Bros. community. It was a good interview, and towards the end they touched on the process of making it and drawing parallels to the Starcraft documentaries. Here is the VOD. Amazing how different their process was compared to what the Starcraft community have gotten from Sons of Starcraft especially.
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So, last news about this is a bunch of sarcastic tweets about how it'll be ready for Blizzcon. 100% ready for blizzcon.
Now it's "Blizzcon or straight after"
I'm willing to give 2 to 1 if anyone wants to bet it'll be at Blizzcon, because it sure won't imo.
Were the kickstarter tshirts/posters sent by the way ?
Anyway I hope to see this at blizzcon, but I doubt it.
I don't really blame tasteless and artosis (except for the dumb tweets and artosis answer ><, and btw Wolf's tweet was also very disappointing, it's funny how they transformed what wasn't a witch hunt into a semi witch hunt just by being assholes answering legitimate questions). I doubt they knew that it would turn out like that. I don't know it from a fact tho as I don't know how it all started and if they were involved financially (ie did they get a cut from the kickstarter money).
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I'll be happy if it turns out to be half as good as the Smash Bros. documentary - that was really unexpectedly well-made.
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A tweet from Slasher lol. I wonder if this thing'll get released without a single bit of public outreach from the creator.
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On November 09 2013 03:27 farvacola wrote:
A tweet from Slasher lol. I wonder if this thing'll get released without a single bit of public outreach from the creator.
The creator has already done his "public outreach".
Unless you mean about the release date, which i'm sure will happen if Slasher is correct. (I'm sure he is)
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Yeah, it's done, finally. Let the drama end and new drama begin about something else.
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http://www.ongamers.com/articles/sons-of-starcraft-premieres-next-week/1100-63/
I am happy to announce that next week Sons of Starcraft will begin airing on onGamers. Sons of Starcraft is a labor of love by director Jeff Alejos, who has spent the last couple of years creating a fantastic documentary about Dan ‘Artosis’ Stemkoski and Nick ‘Tasteless’ Plott.
I met Jeff Alejos last year at an esports event and immediately liked him as a person. During later conversations with him it became apparent that progress on the movie was slow, the scope of the movie had increased dramatically and expenses had piled up - Jeff is an artist and had devoted everything he had to making a great movie. A while back we decided to help out with funding so Jeff could staff up and get back to full time production. Fast forward till now and Jeff is excited to show the result of all the hard work next week.
Sons of Starcraft will debut as episodic content over the next four weeks, Jeff and his team are hard at work making the finishing touches. Next year the movie will be available as a feature length movie to backers of the Kickstarter project and on Netflix.
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oh they're still doing this? kay
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Better be worth the wait. Still hoping! 
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Holy necro. Good to see they're still working on this tho
Edit: I guess this thread had some activity, my bad.
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Hope its as good as the Smash Bros Melee Documentary was
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Even still a staggered ("episodic") release because they couldn't get it ready in time for Blizzcon where the "big conspiracy" led. :D
Ah well, at this point anything that comes out is already a bonus.
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