EPTSons of Starcraft. UPDATED Oct 9/14 - Page 16
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On September 03 2013 09:41 dUTtrOACh wrote: I think the wording "donation" protects them from you. The only thing I could imagine would be some sort of fraudulent act, posing as a charitable organization or some shit. i saw on kickstarter that you can report "scam projects" to the team? If i had thrown more than 100 $ at Sons of Starcraft, i'd do that :> | ||
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farvacola
United States18845 Posts
On September 03 2013 09:53 SiNKami wrote: Please stop bumping the thread until the documentary is released. It's annoys me to no end that every time I get on and see something about Sons of Starcraft, it has to be someone complaining. People will wait for good product. I would rather have a good documentary that takes a lot of time rather than a *half-assed 30 minute documentary that compacts 10 years of 2 peoples life. There are plenty of people who donated to the project that do see things differently, and your delicate sensibilities are not really their concern. In the eyes of some, the product, if it ever gets delivered, will be effectively outdated and of significantly less interest given how much time has passed since the content being shown was filmed. They have every right to post in this thread until TL moderation deems otherwise. | ||
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Nekemancer
United States73 Posts
On September 03 2013 09:53 SiNKami wrote: Please stop bumping the thread until the documentary is released. It's annoys me to no end that every time I get on and see something about Sons of Starcraft, it has to be someone complaining. People will wait for good product. I would rather have a good documentary that takes a lot of time rather than a *half-assed 30 minute documentary that compacts 10 years of 2 peoples life. I'm just hoping that the activity prompts someone involved to just say SOMETHING about it. Even something like "Hey, we're still working on it, been busy and have had problems, no idea when it can get to you but it's still being worked on" would be fine by me. But I've left a message on Kickstarter, Twitter, and the listed email on the Kickstarter looking for information regarding changing my address for the poster I donated for. No response. All I want is evidence that they're not all dead. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On September 03 2013 09:53 SiNKami wrote: Please stop bumping the thread until the documentary is released. It's annoys me to no end that every time I get on and see something about Sons of Starcraft, it has to be someone complaining. People will wait for good product. I would rather have a good documentary that takes a lot of time rather than a *half-assed 30 minute documentary that compacts 10 years of 2 peoples life. im afraif to tell you your annoyance is of little concern to me. The product won't be good anymore, when the filmed shots are basically outdated. Plus i think it's a very improper way to behave as a professional Esport contributor. You just don't get 40k $ and announce a release for spring 2013 and never comment back on it. People have the right to ask where, the heck, the money is that they donated. | ||
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Mairu
United States222 Posts
On September 03 2013 10:05 Cele wrote: im afraif to tell you your annoyance is of little concern to me. The product won't be good anymore, when the filmed shots are basically outdated. Plus i think it's a very improper way to behave as a professional Esport contributor. You just don't get 40k $ and announce a release for spring 2013 and never comment back on it. People have the right to ask where, the heck, the money is that they donated. Maybe it's worth pestering Tumba and the folks at eMG considering they're representing Alejos now. Perhaps they can add another box to their site as for what they do for their clients, like "get clients additional jobs before they complete any outstanding projects" | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
Hey guys, I wanted to give an update on the status of the film. We are nearing the finish line and while I cannot give details at this time there will be a major announcement in the coming weeks regarding Sons of Starcraft. This project has grown beyond what any of us had anticipated or dreamed of. We have had unbridled access to and been gifted the chance to speak with the people who make e-Sports what it is today. I have personally had the opportunity to be in the field with my camera at a huge amount of events, tournaments, qualifiers, and in the best studios making content today. I have flown all over the world following Tasteless and Artosis through several years of their lives, recording hundreds of hours of footage and have had the opportunity not just to see them grow but to see e-Sports grow as well. All of this is because of you. Artists always like to think that they are doing something new, that they have broken untouched ground. I don’t know if anyone else has ever done something quite like this before but I can tell you there are things in this film no one has ever seen or will have access to after its completion. I want to take this opportunity to thank the community for their support, trust, and most importantly their patience to allow our small band of nerds the time necessary to cover this story and the ability to make the film that e-sports deserves. Jeff Alejos Director/Producer Sons of Starcraft | ||
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lantz
United States762 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:36 needcomputer wrote: I funded this 3 figures to get the autographed T shirt. I will be talking to lawyers tomorrow. Unless the three figures are $900, its likely not worth it. Your are better off asking for your money back first. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:36 needcomputer wrote: I funded this 3 figures to get the autographed T shirt. I will be talking to lawyers tomorrow. If you act like an asshole you might never get your autographed T-Shirt. I'm sure there are people who not only contributed more than you, but whose only motives were to see the project come to completion. | ||
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lantz
United States762 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:44 Plansix wrote: Unless the three figures are $900, its likely not worth it. Your are better off asking for your money back first. I already have many times over a half year ago (No responses at all). Everytime this thread gets bumped, it reminds me of my issue with them. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:45 dUTtrOACh wrote: If you act like an asshole you might never get your autographed T-Shirt. I'm sure there are people who not only contributed more than you, but whose only motives were to see the project come to completion. I trust that Tastostis would send him the T-shirt even if he was an asshole about it. They would just sign it with clear distaste and malice. On September 05 2013 04:47 needcomputer wrote: I already have many times over a half year ago (No responses at all). Everytime this thread gets bumped, it reminds me of my issue with them. That sucks and you should keep bothering them, but I don't know if a legal action is viable. If you have an attorney make sure he isn't charging you for reviewing the case. The last thing you want is a $300 bill just to have him tell you it isn't worth the time or effort. And most small claims actions aren't worth it. | ||
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lantz
United States762 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:45 dUTtrOACh wrote: If you act like an asshole you might never get your autographed T-Shirt. I'm sure there are people who not only contributed more than you, but whose only motives were to see the project come to completion. Good for those people. I wanted to see the project completed also but the delays and delays and still not completion a year after it was supposed to be done has made me lost faith. Also, I want at least the physical good they promised... | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:36 needcomputer wrote: I funded this 3 figures to get the autographed T shirt. I will be talking to lawyers tomorrow. i'll save you a trip! if you want your money back, go to small claims court! there, you can spend lots of money and time, but get that moral (cough, pyrrhic) victory you deserve! if you want specific performance (i.e., you want the autographed t-shirt), prepare to shell out thousands upon thousands of dollars and find out that it wasnt worth it in the end (assuming you even get the shirt since if he doesnt have the shirt, the court cant force tastosis to sign the shirt)! i assume you are just being a morally outraged internet goer with no concept of legal issues though. it sucks that they arent performing (at least yet), but lets get real people. | ||
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lantz
United States762 Posts
It's shocking that you guys are defending these people rather than than the sc2 community supporters like myself. Everytime someone posts on this thread complaining about their donation, someone else (a non donator) shuts him down and makes him feel foolish and impatient. Just so you know, because of this incident, I have largely reduced donating to sc2 things (charities, sc2 teamhouses, tournaments) that I would have probably donated in the past because I lost some faith. But before you think I am a terrible person, I still constantly support individual streamers and am subscribed to a handful of channels. I just am surprised you all (non donators) support this documentary and its producer when it has not done a thing for the community (no film = nothing) as of yet instead of people on here that do donate to many sc2 related things... EDIT: It's not even about the money since I am well off. It's about the trust. I was looking forward to the documentary and getting some fan gear and it never arrived. It makes matters worse when you try to contact them but do not hear a thing. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:49 dAPhREAk wrote: i'll save you a trip! if you want your money back, go to small claims court! there, you can spend lots of money and time, but get that moral (cough, pyrrhic) victory you deserve! if you want specific performance (i.e., you want the autographed t-shirt), prepare to shell out thousands upon thousands of dollars and find out that it wasnt worth it in the end (assuming you even get the shirt since if he doesnt have the shirt, the court cant force tastosis to sign the shirt)! i assume you are just being a morally outraged internet goer with no concept of legal issues though. it sucks that they arent performing (at least yet), but lets get real people. Do you have special powers to detect legal discussions from afar? Is that a special power you get when you take the BAR? Yeah, I was trying to let him down nicely, but you pretty much summed it up right there. Civil actions are for real problems that involve real money. Not T-shirts and a couple hundred bucks. | ||
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lantz
United States762 Posts
On September 03 2013 09:53 SiNKami wrote: Please stop bumping the thread until the documentary is released. It's annoys me to no end that every time I get on and see something about Sons of Starcraft, it has to be someone complaining. People will wait for good product. I would rather have a good documentary that takes a lot of time rather than a *half-assed 30 minute documentary that compacts 10 years of 2 peoples life. That's good advice! No one should complain until 2050 when the documentary comes out and Artosis/Tasteless are grandparents... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:56 needcomputer wrote: Thanks for the advice even though it is mostly sarcastic... It's shocking that you guys are defending these people rather than than the sc2 community supporters like myself. Everytime someone posts on this thread complaining about their donation, someone else (a non donator) shuts him down and makes him feel foolish and impatient. Just so you know, because of this incident, I have largely reduced donating to sc2 things (charities, sc2 teamhouses, tournaments) that I would have probably donated in the past because I lost some faith. But before you think I am a terrible person, I still constantly support individual streamers and am subscribed to a handful of channels. I just am surprised you all (non donators) support this documentary and its producer when it has not done a thing for the community (no film = nothing) as of yet instead of people on here that do donate to many sc2 related things... It is partly because I am a little jaded by the legal industry. I am involved with actively costing them thousands upon thousands of dollars(they mostly did it to themselves, I am just the guy who files the paperwork to make it final or proves they fucked up). When I deal with these people, they are pissed as hell. I have actively made people homeless, put them out of business and other things, all stuff they did to themselves. In contrast, people getting upset about the Sons of Starcraft documentary running horribly behind schedule seems very overblown. Sure, it didn’t arrive on time and your trust was betrayed a bit. Sure you are out a couple of hundred dollars, which sucks. But there is an update above. It kinda sucks and is super vague, but its an update. I am not going to say you didn’t get burned, because you did. But it was kickstarter and that was the risk, that the project might show up late or not at all. The movie might show up at later and it might be really good. Or it might suck. At the end of the day, you got burned, but it wasn’t as bad as it could have been. If someone mortgaged their house to make this movie, it would be different. But the outrage and anger is a little misplaced. Disappointment is totally reasonable however. On September 05 2013 04:56 needcomputer wrote: EDIT: It's not even about the money since I am well off. It's about the trust. I was looking forward to the documentary and getting some fan gear and it never arrived. It makes matters worse when you try to contact them but do not hear a thing. We get that. However I just closed a case a while ago where a husband had a separate family in another state(yet, these sorts of dumb people exist). We represented his wife to make sure she got the house and all the paperwork was done so he was off the mortgage and deed. It wasn't a battle or anything. Betrayal of trust is relative. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:56 needcomputer wrote: Thanks for the advice even though it is mostly sarcastic... It's shocking that you guys are defending these people rather than than the sc2 community supporters like myself. Everytime someone posts on this thread complaining about their donation, someone else (a non donator) shuts him down and makes him feel foolish and impatient. Just so you know, because of this incident, I have largely reduced donating to sc2 things (charities, sc2 teamhouses, tournaments) that I would have probably donated in the past because I lost some faith. But before you think I am a terrible person, I still constantly support individual streamers and am subscribed to a handful of channels. I just am surprised you all (non donators) support this documentary and its producer when it has not done a thing for the community (no film = nothing) as of yet instead of people on here that do donate to many sc2 related things... EDIT: It's not even about the money since I am well off. It's about the trust. I was looking forward to the documentary and getting some fan gear and it never arrived. It makes matters worse when you try to contact them but do not hear a thing. i just saved you hundreds of dollars on the lawyers you are seeing tomorrow--lol, unlikely--by giving you the exact same legal advice they would have given you. i am not defending the producers if that is what you are saying. i think they are unprofessional as hell. their latest "update" is shit considering they are a year late. they need to establish firm deadlines and how they are going to meet them, not this bullshit "we'll let you know when we feel like it." people should legitimately be upset at this dude. i am not criticizing the fact that you are upset, which is entirely legitimate; i am criticizing your stupid comment that you are going to see lawyers. something commonly said on the interwebs by people who know no better. | ||
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TeslasPigeon
464 Posts
On September 05 2013 04:47 needcomputer wrote: I already have many times over a half year ago (No responses at all). Everytime this thread gets bumped, it reminds me of my issue with them. If you seriously want your money back, call your credit card company/bank/paypal and explain your situation to a representative claiming fraud. They will refund your money and "Sons of Starcraft" or whoever is in charge will pay a chargeback fine. edit: these type of situations are more common than you think. Seriously call whatever service you used to pay. | ||
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