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On September 02 2013 04:38 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:26 krazykoz wrote:On September 02 2013 00:28 unkkz wrote:
So your theory is that the faces of Starcraft, tastosis, would support to conn the community out of 40k dollars. So what's your take on 9/11? Inside job? And the people you are accusing have been in the community for ten years while you've had a TL account for six months.
And you can live somewhere temporarily, and it wouldn't even matter if he did move to Korea, he doesn't have to be in the states to edit the film. Your theory doesn't hold a drop of water unless he completely lied about his credentials or something. I don't know what's going on with the documentary, nor does anyone else outside of Alejos and his circle of friends. Thus, there is speculation based on what little he has said to the community. I certainly hope I am flat out wrong and that the documentary does get released at some point. It is just extremely unfortunate that he can't spend 5 minutes a month making a video talking to his backers at Kickstarter, the people who gave him this great opportunity to do something he loves. He claimed he wanted to be open in the process of making it, but he has been far from that since his initial release date has passed. On September 02 2013 02:50 Doodsmack wrote:
Tell me, what was your last account banned for? I am not sure what this question has to do with the documentary, which is the topic of this thread. Please PM me if you have any personal questions for me. "We don't know much therefore it's reasonable to make up conclusions."
The making conclusions part is indeed silly, but the fact that we know so little in concert with how giving folks were really seems troubling.
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On September 02 2013 04:44 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:38 Doodsmack wrote:On September 02 2013 04:26 krazykoz wrote:On September 02 2013 00:28 unkkz wrote:
So your theory is that the faces of Starcraft, tastosis, would support to conn the community out of 40k dollars. So what's your take on 9/11? Inside job? And the people you are accusing have been in the community for ten years while you've had a TL account for six months.
And you can live somewhere temporarily, and it wouldn't even matter if he did move to Korea, he doesn't have to be in the states to edit the film. Your theory doesn't hold a drop of water unless he completely lied about his credentials or something. I don't know what's going on with the documentary, nor does anyone else outside of Alejos and his circle of friends. Thus, there is speculation based on what little he has said to the community. I certainly hope I am flat out wrong and that the documentary does get released at some point. It is just extremely unfortunate that he can't spend 5 minutes a month making a video talking to his backers at Kickstarter, the people who gave him this great opportunity to do something he loves. He claimed he wanted to be open in the process of making it, but he has been far from that since his initial release date has passed. On September 02 2013 02:50 Doodsmack wrote:
Tell me, what was your last account banned for? I am not sure what this question has to do with the documentary, which is the topic of this thread. Please PM me if you have any personal questions for me. "We don't know much therefore it's reasonable to make up conclusions." The making conclusions part is indeed silly, but the fact that we know so little in concert with how giving folks were really seems troubling.
As long as the people who pledged money are getting answers, the rest us is doing really have a lot to complain about. And this thread is not the place for those folks to ask for updates from the creator.
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On September 02 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:44 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:38 Doodsmack wrote:On September 02 2013 04:26 krazykoz wrote:On September 02 2013 00:28 unkkz wrote:
So your theory is that the faces of Starcraft, tastosis, would support to conn the community out of 40k dollars. So what's your take on 9/11? Inside job? And the people you are accusing have been in the community for ten years while you've had a TL account for six months.
And you can live somewhere temporarily, and it wouldn't even matter if he did move to Korea, he doesn't have to be in the states to edit the film. Your theory doesn't hold a drop of water unless he completely lied about his credentials or something. I don't know what's going on with the documentary, nor does anyone else outside of Alejos and his circle of friends. Thus, there is speculation based on what little he has said to the community. I certainly hope I am flat out wrong and that the documentary does get released at some point. It is just extremely unfortunate that he can't spend 5 minutes a month making a video talking to his backers at Kickstarter, the people who gave him this great opportunity to do something he loves. He claimed he wanted to be open in the process of making it, but he has been far from that since his initial release date has passed. On September 02 2013 02:50 Doodsmack wrote:
Tell me, what was your last account banned for? I am not sure what this question has to do with the documentary, which is the topic of this thread. Please PM me if you have any personal questions for me. "We don't know much therefore it's reasonable to make up conclusions." The making conclusions part is indeed silly, but the fact that we know so little in concert with how giving folks were really seems troubling. As long as the people who pledged money are getting answers, the rest us is doing really have a lot to complain about. And this thread is not the place for those folks to ask for updates from the creator.
So when I tell you that I donated 20 bucks and have received literally 0 responses from anyone, what then?
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On September 02 2013 04:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:38 felisconcolori wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 02 2013 03:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:39 TeslasPigeon wrote:On September 02 2013 03:05 Nekemancer wrote:
Frankly, I mainly just wanted the Tastosis autographed poster. Helping the documentary out was a nice side bonus. Pretty bummed that there's not even been communication on that front either. You're telling me you never even got your post either? LOL, someone needs to get sued for fraud. oh boy here we go... Do the people suggesting this even realize that lawsuits actually cost money? (and not a small amount either...) Or do you live in some happy world where you can just sue people like that, willy nilly? Actually, in civil court in the US, you can sue people, as you say, "willy nilly". Whether or not your lawsuit has merit may be adjudicated at some point (varies depending on jurisdiction - in a case like this, almost certainly going to be Federal due to diversity of parties) however it is STILL going to be very expensive as either the Plaintiff or Defendant. This is the fear that copyright/patent/trademark/etc trolls operate on - they send you a very threatening letter demanding that you do something (such as remove content or settle for an amount just less than an effective defense may cost) prior to even filing a suit. Because of the costs involved in ongoing litigation, this can have a chilling effect on speech and push people towards settling even if they could very easily win their case on the facts. Because the facts don't matter - they can't afford the cost of defending in a civil case. (IANAL. However, visit Popehat.com, search for Prenda Law, and read some legal blogs by lawyers and you'll see that this is a serious concern.) + Show Spoiler +I have no input on the actual documentary. Would be cool if it comes out, but I didn't kickstart it. The film crew may be running into difficulties in editing or production, having spent unwisely. But we don't know. An update would be nice. That's what I was getting at, actually, that a situation like this is small fish and you'll most likely still lose quite a bit of money even if you sue and win the case.
Oh, definitely. There's almost nothing to be gained from a lawsuit unless someone is a lawyer (makes the process easier, although still have filing fees) and thinks they could compel any kind of action via a lawsuit. More than likely, suing them would definitely kill the Sons of Starcraft documentary, as I doubt they could possibly afford a defense if they've already spent money on the actual film.
Of course, there's a fair number of lawyers sharking around out there and I think "twisting logic into bow ties of wibbly wobbly timey wimey nonsense" is a required course and an entire section of the BAR exam, so it's a possibility no matter how remote.
I would regard any kind of money to a kickstarter campaign as exactly what it is - a donation to something I hope will get done. If I get anything out of it, great. If not, well I knew that was pretty damn probable when I gave the money. Yeah, there may be some "assurances" or such offered by the TOS but I'm not holding my breath. (This may be a bit pessimistic or fatalistic, but at least I can be pleasantly surprised when it works out positively in the end.)
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On September 02 2013 04:51 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:On September 02 2013 04:44 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:38 Doodsmack wrote:On September 02 2013 04:26 krazykoz wrote:On September 02 2013 00:28 unkkz wrote:
So your theory is that the faces of Starcraft, tastosis, would support to conn the community out of 40k dollars. So what's your take on 9/11? Inside job? And the people you are accusing have been in the community for ten years while you've had a TL account for six months.
And you can live somewhere temporarily, and it wouldn't even matter if he did move to Korea, he doesn't have to be in the states to edit the film. Your theory doesn't hold a drop of water unless he completely lied about his credentials or something. I don't know what's going on with the documentary, nor does anyone else outside of Alejos and his circle of friends. Thus, there is speculation based on what little he has said to the community. I certainly hope I am flat out wrong and that the documentary does get released at some point. It is just extremely unfortunate that he can't spend 5 minutes a month making a video talking to his backers at Kickstarter, the people who gave him this great opportunity to do something he loves. He claimed he wanted to be open in the process of making it, but he has been far from that since his initial release date has passed. On September 02 2013 02:50 Doodsmack wrote:
Tell me, what was your last account banned for? I am not sure what this question has to do with the documentary, which is the topic of this thread. Please PM me if you have any personal questions for me. "We don't know much therefore it's reasonable to make up conclusions." The making conclusions part is indeed silly, but the fact that we know so little in concert with how giving folks were really seems troubling. As long as the people who pledged money are getting answers, the rest us is doing really have a lot to complain about. And this thread is not the place for those folks to ask for updates from the creator. So when I tell you that I donated 20 bucks and have received literally 0 responses from anyone, what then?
Who did you email? Did you try to contact artosis and tasteless through twitter?
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On September 02 2013 04:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:38 felisconcolori wrote:On September 02 2013 03:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On September 02 2013 03:39 TeslasPigeon wrote:On September 02 2013 03:05 Nekemancer wrote:
Frankly, I mainly just wanted the Tastosis autographed poster. Helping the documentary out was a nice side bonus. Pretty bummed that there's not even been communication on that front either. You're telling me you never even got your post either? LOL, someone needs to get sued for fraud. oh boy here we go... Do the people suggesting this even realize that lawsuits actually cost money? (and not a small amount either...) Or do you live in some happy world where you can just sue people like that, willy nilly? Actually, in civil court in the US, you can sue people, as you say, "willy nilly". Whether or not your lawsuit has merit may be adjudicated at some point (varies depending on jurisdiction - in a case like this, almost certainly going to be Federal due to diversity of parties) however it is STILL going to be very expensive as either the Plaintiff or Defendant. This is the fear that copyright/patent/trademark/etc trolls operate on - they send you a very threatening letter demanding that you do something (such as remove content or settle for an amount just less than an effective defense may cost) prior to even filing a suit. Because of the costs involved in ongoing litigation, this can have a chilling effect on speech and push people towards settling even if they could very easily win their case on the facts. Because the facts don't matter - they can't afford the cost of defending in a civil case. (IANAL. However, visit Popehat.com, search for Prenda Law, and read some legal blogs by lawyers and you'll see that this is a serious concern.) + Show Spoiler +I have no input on the actual documentary. Would be cool if it comes out, but I didn't kickstart it. The film crew may be running into difficulties in editing or production, having spent unwisely. But we don't know. An update would be nice. That's what I was getting at, actually, that a situation like this is small fish and you'll most likely still lose quite a bit of money even if you sue and win the case. Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:41 UmberBane wrote:
The people of Starcraft versus Tastosis, the casting Archon? Lol not sure why you'd imply THEY are responsible for this...
Yeah, getting their "friend" to put up this project up by using their fame and then end up splitting the 40k amount themselves with the donation. That's the only plausible explanation!!!!
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So I think this whole hypothetical court thing is pretty silly, but if you were to actually think it further what do you think would be Kickstarter's stance on this? As someone posted previously, the TOS specifically state that "the creator is legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project" or give back the money. So again, I think it's kinda silly, but wouldn't the people of Kickstarter have an interest in enforcing their TOS and make sure people don't get scammed through their site?
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On September 02 2013 04:58 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:51 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:On September 02 2013 04:44 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:38 Doodsmack wrote:On September 02 2013 04:26 krazykoz wrote:On September 02 2013 00:28 unkkz wrote:
So your theory is that the faces of Starcraft, tastosis, would support to conn the community out of 40k dollars. So what's your take on 9/11? Inside job? And the people you are accusing have been in the community for ten years while you've had a TL account for six months.
And you can live somewhere temporarily, and it wouldn't even matter if he did move to Korea, he doesn't have to be in the states to edit the film. Your theory doesn't hold a drop of water unless he completely lied about his credentials or something. I don't know what's going on with the documentary, nor does anyone else outside of Alejos and his circle of friends. Thus, there is speculation based on what little he has said to the community. I certainly hope I am flat out wrong and that the documentary does get released at some point. It is just extremely unfortunate that he can't spend 5 minutes a month making a video talking to his backers at Kickstarter, the people who gave him this great opportunity to do something he loves. He claimed he wanted to be open in the process of making it, but he has been far from that since his initial release date has passed. On September 02 2013 02:50 Doodsmack wrote:
Tell me, what was your last account banned for? I am not sure what this question has to do with the documentary, which is the topic of this thread. Please PM me if you have any personal questions for me. "We don't know much therefore it's reasonable to make up conclusions." The making conclusions part is indeed silly, but the fact that we know so little in concert with how giving folks were really seems troubling. As long as the people who pledged money are getting answers, the rest us is doing really have a lot to complain about. And this thread is not the place for those folks to ask for updates from the creator. So when I tell you that I donated 20 bucks and have received literally 0 responses from anyone, what then? Who did you email? Did you try to contact artosis and tasteless through twitter?
I refuse to use Twitter under any circumstances.  And I'm more or less with feliscondori; I don't personally care all that much, as the money I donated doesn't mean a whole lot to me, but in regards to others I can perfectly understand their concerns.
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On September 02 2013 05:00 UmberBane wrote:
So I think this whole hypothetical court thing is pretty silly, but if you were to actually think it further what do you think would be Kickstarter's stance on this? As someone posted previously, the TOS specifically state that "the creator is legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project" or give back the money. So again, I think it's kinda silly, but wouldn't the people of Kickstarter have an interest in enforcing their TOS and make sure people don't get scammed through their site?
But you see for that to happen you have to urge them to take actions which would involve lawyer work. I'm sure that if this goes to lawsuits, the donated people will get their money back OR at least coerce the project manager to fulfill her/his duties regarding it. However this might take a lot of money to sue and a very long process to settle.
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On September 02 2013 05:04 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 05:00 UmberBane wrote:
So I think this whole hypothetical court thing is pretty silly, but if you were to actually think it further what do you think would be Kickstarter's stance on this? As someone posted previously, the TOS specifically state that "the creator is legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project" or give back the money. So again, I think it's kinda silly, but wouldn't the people of Kickstarter have an interest in enforcing their TOS and make sure people don't get scammed through their site? But you see for that to happen you have to urge them to take actions which would involve lawyer work. I'm sure that if this goes to lawsuits, the donated people will get their money back OR at least coerce the project manager to fulfill her/his duties regarding it. However this might take a lot of money to sue and a very long process to settle.
At best they could win an order requiring a refund of their money (damages) or fulfillment of products specified. If neither the product or the money is there... they will win but the likelihood of them seeing anything out of it are slim. A lot of people can "win" in court only to never recover anything and spend more money trying to recover.
+ Show Spoiler +Also, farvicola - concolori. condori would be something entirely different. What would a Cat Condor look like, anyways? + Show Spoiler +At least it's not a phallus.
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On September 02 2013 05:13 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 05:04 Xiphos wrote:On September 02 2013 05:00 UmberBane wrote:
So I think this whole hypothetical court thing is pretty silly, but if you were to actually think it further what do you think would be Kickstarter's stance on this? As someone posted previously, the TOS specifically state that "the creator is legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project" or give back the money. So again, I think it's kinda silly, but wouldn't the people of Kickstarter have an interest in enforcing their TOS and make sure people don't get scammed through their site? But you see for that to happen you have to urge them to take actions which would involve lawyer work. I'm sure that if this goes to lawsuits, the donated people will get their money back OR at least coerce the project manager to fulfill her/his duties regarding it. However this might take a lot of money to sue and a very long process to settle. At best they could win an order requiring a refund of their money (damages) or fulfillment of products specified. If neither the product or the money is there... they will win but the likelihood of them seeing anything out of it are slim. A lot of people can "win" in court only to never recover anything and spend more money trying to recover. + Show Spoiler +Also, farvicola - concolori. condori would be something entirely different. What would a Cat Condor look like, anyways? + Show Spoiler +At least it's not a phallus.
So by the definition, the guy who "kickstarted" this project could potential "lose" and not have to pay any damage at all, riveting...
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On September 02 2013 05:04 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:58 Plansix wrote:On September 02 2013 04:51 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:On September 02 2013 04:44 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:38 Doodsmack wrote:On September 02 2013 04:26 krazykoz wrote:On September 02 2013 00:28 unkkz wrote:
So your theory is that the faces of Starcraft, tastosis, would support to conn the community out of 40k dollars. So what's your take on 9/11? Inside job? And the people you are accusing have been in the community for ten years while you've had a TL account for six months.
And you can live somewhere temporarily, and it wouldn't even matter if he did move to Korea, he doesn't have to be in the states to edit the film. Your theory doesn't hold a drop of water unless he completely lied about his credentials or something. I don't know what's going on with the documentary, nor does anyone else outside of Alejos and his circle of friends. Thus, there is speculation based on what little he has said to the community. I certainly hope I am flat out wrong and that the documentary does get released at some point. It is just extremely unfortunate that he can't spend 5 minutes a month making a video talking to his backers at Kickstarter, the people who gave him this great opportunity to do something he loves. He claimed he wanted to be open in the process of making it, but he has been far from that since his initial release date has passed. On September 02 2013 02:50 Doodsmack wrote:
Tell me, what was your last account banned for? I am not sure what this question has to do with the documentary, which is the topic of this thread. Please PM me if you have any personal questions for me. "We don't know much therefore it's reasonable to make up conclusions." The making conclusions part is indeed silly, but the fact that we know so little in concert with how giving folks were really seems troubling. As long as the people who pledged money are getting answers, the rest us is doing really have a lot to complain about. And this thread is not the place for those folks to ask for updates from the creator. So when I tell you that I donated 20 bucks and have received literally 0 responses from anyone, what then? Who did you email? Did you try to contact artosis and tasteless through twitter? I refuse to use Twitter under any circumstances. And I'm more or less with feliscondori; I don't personally care all that much, as the money I donated doesn't mean a whole lot to me, but in regards to others I can perfectly understand their concerns.
So how did you ask for an update? Did you email the creator?
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On September 02 2013 05:17 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 05:04 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:58 Plansix wrote:On September 02 2013 04:51 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:On September 02 2013 04:44 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:38 Doodsmack wrote:On September 02 2013 04:26 krazykoz wrote:On September 02 2013 00:28 unkkz wrote:
So your theory is that the faces of Starcraft, tastosis, would support to conn the community out of 40k dollars. So what's your take on 9/11? Inside job? And the people you are accusing have been in the community for ten years while you've had a TL account for six months.
And you can live somewhere temporarily, and it wouldn't even matter if he did move to Korea, he doesn't have to be in the states to edit the film. Your theory doesn't hold a drop of water unless he completely lied about his credentials or something. I don't know what's going on with the documentary, nor does anyone else outside of Alejos and his circle of friends. Thus, there is speculation based on what little he has said to the community. I certainly hope I am flat out wrong and that the documentary does get released at some point. It is just extremely unfortunate that he can't spend 5 minutes a month making a video talking to his backers at Kickstarter, the people who gave him this great opportunity to do something he loves. He claimed he wanted to be open in the process of making it, but he has been far from that since his initial release date has passed. On September 02 2013 02:50 Doodsmack wrote:
Tell me, what was your last account banned for? I am not sure what this question has to do with the documentary, which is the topic of this thread. Please PM me if you have any personal questions for me. "We don't know much therefore it's reasonable to make up conclusions." The making conclusions part is indeed silly, but the fact that we know so little in concert with how giving folks were really seems troubling. As long as the people who pledged money are getting answers, the rest us is doing really have a lot to complain about. And this thread is not the place for those folks to ask for updates from the creator. So when I tell you that I donated 20 bucks and have received literally 0 responses from anyone, what then? Who did you email? Did you try to contact artosis and tasteless through twitter? I refuse to use Twitter under any circumstances. And I'm more or less with feliscondori; I don't personally care all that much, as the money I donated doesn't mean a whole lot to me, but in regards to others I can perfectly understand their concerns. So how did you ask for an update? Did you email the creator?
Yes, I used the contact info provided via Kickstarter.
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And imagine, all it would take to end this speculation is just nearly any public statement. It's a fun thing to think about, just exactly how easy it would be to stop this, that's why I can't blame people for concluding the reason for the silence is that everything has gone terribly wrong somewhere. I think the conspiracies of them using money to move to Korea are a bit tin-foily, but, with stuff like the signed posters and delays, it's pretty clear they have completely fucked up somewhere and are hiding in shame instead of fessing up or whatever. I mean it's been said several times and places on forums/reddit that they don't respond to emails or anything like that, pretty damning sign in my opinion.
We might see the documentary some day, but regardless, it's a safe assumption that we're dealing with a pretty serious case of mismanagement on a lot of fronts, both in regards to PR and the film-making itself.
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On September 02 2013 05:20 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 05:17 Plansix wrote:On September 02 2013 05:04 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:58 Plansix wrote:On September 02 2013 04:51 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:49 Plansix wrote:On September 02 2013 04:44 farvacola wrote:On September 02 2013 04:38 Doodsmack wrote:On September 02 2013 04:26 krazykoz wrote:On September 02 2013 00:28 unkkz wrote:
So your theory is that the faces of Starcraft, tastosis, would support to conn the community out of 40k dollars. So what's your take on 9/11? Inside job? And the people you are accusing have been in the community for ten years while you've had a TL account for six months.
And you can live somewhere temporarily, and it wouldn't even matter if he did move to Korea, he doesn't have to be in the states to edit the film. Your theory doesn't hold a drop of water unless he completely lied about his credentials or something. I don't know what's going on with the documentary, nor does anyone else outside of Alejos and his circle of friends. Thus, there is speculation based on what little he has said to the community. I certainly hope I am flat out wrong and that the documentary does get released at some point. It is just extremely unfortunate that he can't spend 5 minutes a month making a video talking to his backers at Kickstarter, the people who gave him this great opportunity to do something he loves. He claimed he wanted to be open in the process of making it, but he has been far from that since his initial release date has passed. On September 02 2013 02:50 Doodsmack wrote:
Tell me, what was your last account banned for? I am not sure what this question has to do with the documentary, which is the topic of this thread. Please PM me if you have any personal questions for me. "We don't know much therefore it's reasonable to make up conclusions." The making conclusions part is indeed silly, but the fact that we know so little in concert with how giving folks were really seems troubling. As long as the people who pledged money are getting answers, the rest us is doing really have a lot to complain about. And this thread is not the place for those folks to ask for updates from the creator. So when I tell you that I donated 20 bucks and have received literally 0 responses from anyone, what then? Who did you email? Did you try to contact artosis and tasteless through twitter? I refuse to use Twitter under any circumstances. And I'm more or less with feliscondori; I don't personally care all that much, as the money I donated doesn't mean a whole lot to me, but in regards to others I can perfectly understand their concerns. So how did you ask for an update? Did you email the creator? Yes, I used the contact info provided via Kickstarter.
Well then you have a good reason to be upset. I would let tasteless or artosis know you think the creator ran off with you money. I'm not convinced that posting in this thread does a lot.
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Woot another documentary about starcraft that's never gonna get released
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On August 30 2013 03:00 crms wrote:
You can't take people's money give them estimations, fail to deliver and fail to update. I'm not sure in what area of life that would ever be acceptable.
Oh, but you can. Kickstarter is just a glorified donation page, if you wanted to "support" them, then you did. But frankly, the amount of time they're taking and lack of updates is quite ludicrous, I'm glad I didn't donate anything to any of the documentaries, I can't say I didn't see it coming, the people who were asking for money had literally no credentials from what I saw. It was just a bunch of people who wanted to make documentaries, but then found they were way in over their head.
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I often compare the start of eSports with the start of the music industry because both began under the same circumstances. Both rose quickly based on glamour, fast sales and a cultural phenomenon. What happened? Both were immediately invaded by shysters and fools with delusions of grandeur. They took dumb kids money and ran.
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On September 02 2013 05:41 kckkryptonite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 03:00 crms wrote:
You can't take people's money give them estimations, fail to deliver and fail to update. I'm not sure in what area of life that would ever be acceptable. Oh, but you can. Kickstarter is just a glorified donation page, if you wanted to "support" them, then you did. But frankly, the amount of time they're taking and lack of updates is quite ludicrous, I'm glad I didn't donate anything to any of the documentaries, I can't say I didn't see it coming, the people who were asking for money had literally no credentials from what I saw. It was just a bunch of people who wanted to make documentaries, but then found they were way in over their head.
This seems to be true. Most of the projects that never get completed on kickstarter are never held accountable (i.e board gaming and music). Normally what makes people fullfil their promise is the necessity of maintaining a reputation. In this case maybe tastosis would be the key player in pushing the documentary. I, for one, do think they will want to avoid this becoming a huge scam at all costs.
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