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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 03:21:07
September 28 2012 03:20 GMT
#41
I love how sub-50% was just called Polt and July. Made me giggle.
Also made me sad, though, once I thought about it. July was once a king, and it's a shame to see a king fall.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
September 28 2012 03:22 GMT
#42
MKP forever number 2.
Darkaros
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 03:31:27
September 28 2012 03:30 GMT
#43
Funny how players with 60%+ win rates are mostly "veterans" with a huge number of played games... but with DRG at the top (and even he's pretty experienced), and TaeJa with 20 or more fewer games played than everyone else :D. Interesting stats!
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
September 28 2012 03:56 GMT
#44
On September 28 2012 10:34 brokenLoL wrote:
He's not the number one Zerg in the gsl, he's the one with most wins only because he's been around longer and isn't that bad. Number one would imply he has the most skills for a Zerg in the gsl and last time I checked,life and symbol are still in gsl. I swear, people are acting like leenock is the sc2 jaedong when jaedong was in his bw prime. People are acting like leenock is like savior when savior made his bw break through and dominated everyone. He's a not half bad player with a few small tournament wins and a second place at a gsl that happened a year ago.


MLG isn't really that small >_<
Spriki
Profile Joined April 2012
216 Posts
September 28 2012 03:57 GMT
#45
I kinda feel sorry for Polt and July....having their own bracket cause they have below 50% winrate
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Taidanii
Profile Joined April 2012
United States77 Posts
September 28 2012 04:24 GMT
#46
Yeah, to be honest I don't understand why this is listed by total wins. It should be listed by percentage, as that's the actual indicator of prestige. DRG being at the very top in this scenario. Percentage identifies the spread of wins and loses. For instance, according to this, someone in the GSL with 200 wins and 250 loses would be at the top. That's a tad ridiculous, but it would be the case if the stat existed.
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Sassback
Profile Joined September 2012
United States718 Posts
September 28 2012 05:01 GMT
#47
all hail the leenocktopus!
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poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
September 28 2012 05:07 GMT
#48
I think the important thing about these statistics is MVP's consistency and performance, rather than about Leenock.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
September 28 2012 05:12 GMT
#49
On September 28 2012 13:24 Taidanii wrote:
Yeah, to be honest I don't understand why this is listed by total wins. It should be listed by percentage, as that's the actual indicator of prestige. DRG being at the very top in this scenario. Percentage identifies the spread of wins and loses. For instance, according to this, someone in the GSL with 200 wins and 250 loses would be at the top. That's a tad ridiculous, but it would be the case if the stat existed.

They aren't measuring skill, it's just a bit of extra relevant info in an article about Leenock having the most Zerg GSL wins, which is a fun statistic to know.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
September 28 2012 06:51 GMT
#50
On September 28 2012 13:24 Taidanii wrote:
Yeah, to be honest I don't understand why this is listed by total wins. It should be listed by percentage, as that's the actual indicator of prestige. DRG being at the very top in this scenario. Percentage identifies the spread of wins and loses. For instance, according to this, someone in the GSL with 200 wins and 250 loses would be at the top. That's a tad ridiculous, but it would be the case if the stat existed.

Meh. This is why I did the percentage thing on my own
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 06:57:12
September 28 2012 06:56 GMT
#51
On September 28 2012 13:24 Taidanii wrote:
Yeah, to be honest I don't understand why this is listed by total wins. It should be listed by percentage, as that's the actual indicator of prestige. DRG being at the very top in this scenario. Percentage identifies the spread of wins and loses. For instance, according to this, someone in the GSL with 200 wins and 250 loses would be at the top. That's a tad ridiculous, but it would be the case if the stat existed.

That's impossible. For every player that has a negative stat there has to be a player with a corresponding positive stat. Otherwise who is this player losing to?

Percentage on the otherhand, will lead to weird situations for players who only show up in GSL for like a season and score 9 wins 1 loss and have a permanent 90% win rate. Like others have pointed out, percentages are misleading when the sample size is different.
Tosho
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia498 Posts
September 28 2012 07:00 GMT
#52
Seems like this list contains a lot of legacy from the first few seasons of GSL when Terran was so dominant.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 28 2012 07:00 GMT
#53
The way I read it MVP #1 Nestea #2. THE WAY IT WILL ALWAYS BE.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 07:02:29
September 28 2012 07:01 GMT
#54
On September 28 2012 13:24 Taidanii wrote:
Yeah, to be honest I don't understand why this is listed by total wins. It should be listed by percentage, as that's the actual indicator of prestige. DRG being at the very top in this scenario. Percentage identifies the spread of wins and loses. For instance, according to this, someone in the GSL with 200 wins and 250 loses would be at the top. That's a tad ridiculous, but it would be the case if the stat existed.


Percentage only makes since if the players have played a similar number of games. Like a regular season in pro sports. Since winning a match in GSL means you move on and thus having the chance to get more wins. It makes perfect sense. Even someone with 200 wins and 250 loses is a huge acheivement because they manage to stay in GSL for so long. Because a low quality player will not even get a chance to play that many games.

If you take a look at players with 100 OSL wins, they are pretty much the top of the top players.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 28 2012 07:05 GMT
#55
On September 28 2012 10:49 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 10:29 Doubting wrote:
Does this include Code A and GSTL? I don't think Squirtle has played that many Code S games


It includes Code A, not sure about GSTL. You can tell because players like Ryung and Byun have only been in about 4 Code S seasons each and are still on this list.

Leenock himself was in Code A for 6 months.

But that list really makes MVP, MKP, MC's win-rates look quite impressive; since they *still* top it despite rarely dropping out of Code S and being there since the open seasons.


Byun has been in like 7 Code S seasons and has been a GSL regular ever since open season 2, not sure where you're getting 4 seasons from >_>
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
September 28 2012 07:09 GMT
#56
On September 28 2012 16:00 Probe1 wrote:
The way I read it MVP #1 Nestea #2. THE WAY IT WILL ALWAYS BE.


Wraps up my thoughts pretty well. DRG's win ratio pretty sick though.
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Mr_Z
Profile Joined June 2011
South Africa88 Posts
September 28 2012 07:33 GMT
#57
wow nice list ty. Just shows how dominant the 3 kings have been MVP, NesTea and MC to have played against the best for so long and still have 60%+ win rate
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Raid
Profile Joined September 2010
United States398 Posts
September 28 2012 08:00 GMT
#58
MVP truly is the best sc2 WOL player that ever was..
.Wraath
Profile Joined May 2012
United States262 Posts
September 28 2012 08:01 GMT
#59
Surprised MKP is not on the list.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
September 28 2012 08:10 GMT
#60
DRG, Mvp and Nestea having the top spots doesn't surprise me in the least. :D

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