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ESF teams/players missing from MLG vs Proleague - Page 18

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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 26 2012 20:53 GMT
#341
It will definitely be curious to see how this works out in the long run. MLG tournaments, even Arenas, bring a different kind of exposure than their championships. I can't help but feel this will be a bit more personal run through of KeSPA players to what I'll more broadly term "western" markets.

As someone who merely dabbled in BW, I know who these players are but not much more than that. Though I am a bit put out by ESF's declination of invitations, I am excited to see how MLG and KeSPA use this opportunity to give these legends a face in SC2.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 26 2012 20:58 GMT
#342
Very good decision by ESF.

I fully support it.
Off-season = best season
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
September 26 2012 20:58 GMT
#343
Can we please update the OP with the information from FXOUnstable? So people can get a chance to actually get the right info regarding this case. Instead of what looks like loose drama right now
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 26 2012 21:03 GMT
#344
On September 27 2012 05:23 Slasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.

EDIT ------
If it was the case that boss went on the record with slasher about this, he will get a fucking earful from me, but I will haveto wait till he gets to the office in the morning to confirm


Well, as was the argument for the Old Boys Club, I kind of do represent the 1%. :O)

On a serious note, as I see this already exploding, I confirmed and double-checked my sources before publishing, just as I always do with my stories. Boss did in-fact go on the record.


Oh boy.
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
September 26 2012 21:05 GMT
#345
MLG has a partnership with Kespa that I understand they never had with Gom. This one event is billed as kespa vs the rest, so of course they have more kespa players. I believe it is also the first time they are having kespa players in a normal mlg tourney rather than the one show match tourney they did.
BenBuford
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark307 Posts
September 26 2012 21:06 GMT
#346
I'm really excited by these players sticking together, fighting for better rights.

This is the sort of "union" that will help eSports move onward to the next level.
I think there need to be some form of body/organisation/forum to make sure stuff like this is evaluated and discussed.

I'm not saying that MLG did right or wrong here - I'm just excited that someone takes a stand on what they conceive as important, and that they address it.
BenBuford on twitter.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 26 2012 21:07 GMT
#347
That PPV model!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
September 26 2012 21:16 GMT
#348
This really isn't a story, they should be allowed to decline the invites whenever they want. Why are people talking about the PPV model anyway, there is a separate thread for that.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 26 2012 21:19 GMT
#349
The fact that BoSs did go on the record to say "most likely" doesn't change the fact that 1) he didn't have confirmed insider information to give to slasher and 2) only two players declined, one of whom has already said that he only wants to do Code S this season. This is a non-story. Guess even esports journalists have to sensationalize to bait clicks lol.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
September 26 2012 21:25 GMT
#350
What would MLG be today if it wasn't for the esf players?
"NO" -Has
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 21:33:36
September 26 2012 21:33 GMT
#351
I fully understand and support this decision. It's basically a slap in the face of ESF players to invite that many Kespa players. If anything the number should be even but there are a lot more ESF players deserving an invite.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 21:40:16
September 26 2012 21:38 GMT
#352
On September 27 2012 06:33 Baum wrote:
I fully understand and support this decision. It's basically a slap in the face of ESF players to invite that many Kespa players. If anything the number should be even but there are a lot more ESF players deserving an invite.


isnt it proleague vs mlg? not kespa vs esf. if mlg side should be all esf korean players, that wouldnt be fair to players like idra, huk, select, etc. no?

24 proleague players (kespa) vs 24 mlg players (europe+americas+esf koreans). what is the issue?
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Mojodishu
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland44 Posts
September 26 2012 21:39 GMT
#353
And now Stephano is pulling out too, meh.
hai2u
Profile Joined September 2011
688 Posts
September 26 2012 21:40 GMT
#354
the real reason why ppl should be outraged is that MLG invited 12 NA players instead of ESF players.
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
September 26 2012 21:40 GMT
#355
ugh. why does this always seem to happen.
My religion is Starcraft
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 21:42:21
September 26 2012 21:41 GMT
#356
*deleted*

Wrong thread.
eSports or die tryin'
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
September 26 2012 21:47 GMT
#357
On September 27 2012 06:39 Mojodishu wrote:
And now Stephano is pulling out too, meh.


Source?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 21:49:10
September 26 2012 21:47 GMT
#358
On September 27 2012 06:38 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 06:33 Baum wrote:
I fully understand and support this decision. It's basically a slap in the face of ESF players to invite that many Kespa players. If anything the number should be even but there are a lot more ESF players deserving an invite.


isnt it proleague vs mlg? not kespa vs esf. if mlg side should be all esf korean players, that wouldnt be fair to players like idra, huk, select, etc. no?

24 proleague players (kespa) vs 24 mlg players (europe+americas+esf koreans). what is the issue?


They picked the MvP idea themselves though, it's not something forced upon them. You can't really argue "Yeah but it's called proleague vs mlg" because that's not a cause, that's basically the issue itself - the issue is how they decided to do things.

Yeah I'm being a bit pedantic.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
September 26 2012 21:49 GMT
#359
Evil Geniuses announce on Twitter than Stephano has now pulled out.
So that $10 show is now worth about $1.
Guardian1972
Profile Joined August 2010
United States40 Posts
September 26 2012 21:50 GMT
#360
MLG should have kept it even among ESF and KESPA ... knowing the friction in the past between the two ... to be honest should only be the best players ( which probably be more of ESF then KESPA at the moment ) .

So sad

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