Sad to Stephano out, was looking forward to him playing against the KeSPA pros.
ESF teams/players missing from MLG vs Proleague - Page 19
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
Sad to Stephano out, was looking forward to him playing against the KeSPA pros. | ||
Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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brokenLoL
United Kingdom419 Posts
On September 27 2012 00:59 TheDougler wrote: I highly highly doubt it considering ESF players gained their fame through playing in a PPV tournament (GSL). In my opinion there's nothing wrong with PPV anyway, and I'd view MLG no differently if they took the GSL approach of offering a free version that made your eyes bleed or a paid version that doest. GSL is free to watch though...you are completely 100% incorrect in saying that GSL is a mandatory paid thing. You have the option to pay for more pixels like every other single tournament. They're not like MLG and trying to monopolize the SC2 scene in their country. | ||
Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On September 27 2012 06:53 brokenLoL wrote: GSL is free to watch though...you are completely 100% incorrect in saying that GSL is a mandatory paid thing. You have the option to pay for more pixels like every other single tournament. They're not like MLG and trying to monopolize the SC2 scene in their country. How innocent you are if you there is a good guy/bad guy here | ||
xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
On September 27 2012 05:58 Redox wrote: Very good decision by ESF. I fully support it. what decision ? | ||
Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
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chris5180
198 Posts
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
On September 27 2012 06:50 Imbu wrote: https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/251072739333517312 Sad to Stephano out, was looking forward to him playing against the KeSPA pros. stephano avoid matchs with koreans more news at 11 | ||
TheDougler
Canada8302 Posts
On September 27 2012 06:52 Nazeron wrote: shitty, wish i puma and MC were going. hopefully something like this doesnt happen again Those two are still competing as far as we know. Puma for sure. | ||
IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Lastly, I want to let my teammates know that I am anxiously waiting to hear from them about what happened regarding MLG. , which means the schedule is basically conflicting with GSL, which means I'm sure ESF players didn't declined their invites as a concerted move but because they're already very busy and the prizepool isn't worth the hassle. Especially that ESF players knows very well how is it to play cross server. | ||
CrayonPopChoa
Canada761 Posts
Its going to be interesting to see what happens when KESPA proleague begins and if any of the teams start buying some of the big names from the ESF teams. If that dosent happen then the power is going to go to the one whos players perform the best in the OSL and GSL. If for example in 3 months the ro16 for both the OSL and GSL consists of 80% KESPA or GOM players respectively, then im pretty sure international leagues will be inviting those guys, even worse viewership of one of the leagues would drastically drop. If KESPA and GOM continue to not work together then it wouldnt be to far fetched to imagine the leagues being rigged in some way for their respective players to become dominent. Otherwise the KESPA proleague the crown jewel that runs for 10 months a year, would basically lose prestige and a lot of viewers particulary form the foreign community. For GOM their team league would also lose credibility and have to fold and ESF teams in general would find it hard to keep finding sponserships when they are constantly out performed by the KESPA players. So if the current top GSL players are playing at the highest skill ceilling that exists in SC2, then the best the KESPA players can do is compete with them equally and that would allow for both leagues to continue existing. If however KESPA players are able to reach a higher level, that allows them to consistently outperform the GSL players like in BW or if for some reason the skill set needed in SC2 suits B-teamers more and as a result does not allow KESPA players to ever match the GOM players, then it is inevitable that one of these leagues disapers or drastically changes unless GOM and KESPA come to some kind of compromise. | ||
TommyP
United States6231 Posts
I think he meant to say, "Kespa hasnt helped develop MLG at all." Also, eSF has every right to do this. They have made MLG great and Starcraft 2 great, they are the ones who deserve everything, not Kespa. | ||
eleaf
526 Posts
On September 27 2012 07:24 ChoiSulli wrote: If they would rather go back to washing dishes then playing in competitive leagues then let them. You would think that while they are still able to compete with the KESPA palyers they would jump at the opportunity to make some money before most of their careers end. Its going to be interesting to see what happens when KESPA proleague begins and if any of the teams start buying some of the big names from the ESF teams. If that dosent happen then the power is going to go to the one whos players perform the best in the OSL and GSL. If for example in 3 months the ro16 for both the OSL and GSL consists of 80% KESPA or GOM players respectively, then im pretty sure international leagues will be inviting those guys, even worse viewership of one of the leagues would drastically drop. If KESPA and GOM continue to not work together then it wouldnt be to far fetched to imagine the leagues being rigged in some way for their respective players to become dominent. Otherwise the KESPA proleague the crown jewel that runs for 10 months a year, would basically lose prestige and a lot of viewers particulary form the foreign community. For GOM their team league would also lose credibility and have to fold and ESF teams in general would find it hard to keep finding sponserships when they are constantly out performed by the KESPA players. So if the current top GSL players are playing at the highest skill ceilling that exists in SC2, then the best the KESPA players can do is compete with them equally and that would allow for both leagues to continue existing. If however KESPA players are able to reach a higher level, that allows them to consistently outperform the GSL players like in BW or if for some reason the skill set needed in SC2 suits B-teamers more and as a result does not allow KESPA players to ever match the GOM players, then it is inevitable that one of these leagues disapers or drastically changes unless GOM and KESPA come to some kind of compromise. Well, except you forgot one point: KeSPA players are not allowed to attend foreign tournaments because ... they are under KeSPA. | ||
jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On September 27 2012 07:32 TommyP wrote: “When KESPA hasn't helped develop MLG as much as ESF teams have.” I think he meant to say, "Kespa hasnt helped develop MLG at all." Also, eSF has every right to do this. They have made MLG great and Starcraft 2 great, they are the ones who deserve everything, not Kespa. to be fair...kespa made sc2 great without even trying thanks to what they did with bw. i have no doubt sc2(including teamliquid) wouldnt be where it is now if it wasnt for kespa's bw scene. | ||
sLideSC2
United States225 Posts
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FragRaptor
United States184 Posts
All this MvP hate is really getting on my nerves... so much ignorance and general stupidity. | ||
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