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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 19:58:55
September 26 2012 19:58 GMT
#321
On September 27 2012 04:54 sparkk51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:51 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On September 27 2012 04:47 sparkk51 wrote:
If true, ESF is being ridiculous with this one. The whole point of the tournament is to put MLG players vs Proleague players. This is a tournament hosted and funded by MLG + their sponsors, therefore they should be able to do what they want with it. And what they want to do is literally put MLG (and force the international aspect of it) vs Proleague. Don't protest against a major tournament provider for dedicating a single event to this kind of "X vs X" idea (which can only work, by the way, if proleague players make up half the battle). Especially, if they are funding it. Seriously, you cant expect MLG to transform the theme behind their tournament just because you want in. I find it selfish and, if they didn't misunderstand the idea behind the tournament, disgusting.

It's not true... Slasher just being slasher -.-

Only two players actually declined MKP who wants to focus on GSL and Losira for an unknown reason.... Again this is NOT ESF pulling it's players out... This is Slasher taking an off the record thought from FXOBoss sensationalising the shit out of it and posting it as fact -.-


Thanks for that, I didn't read past page 2. So It's officially confirmed to be false?

Can't really be 100% confirmed false(until word from Boss) But judging by FXOUnstable's post and good logic it's about 99% confirmed false.

If ESF was pulling it's players out, they probably would have had a statement about it. MC would have pulled out with thim aswell he is close to them and has backed them in the past. Plus seeing as it is only 2 actually players pulling out 1. of them being MKP who said in his Code S interview he wants to focus solely on GSL this season... So really only 1 player pulling out for an unknown reason.... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's false...

If it's proven true I will eat my words and apologize to slasher.... but for now...
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
September 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#322
That's a pretty shitty and sensational OP to begin with, only looking slightly worse after Unstable's post.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
September 26 2012 20:01 GMT
#323
making it big title like new drama of ESF vs KeSPA
Good PR
@taefoxy
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 26 2012 20:04 GMT
#324
On September 27 2012 04:35 TheSir wrote:
Well we probably hear whats this all about on LO3 tonight.



Fuck I'll tune into that. Somebody needs to ream Slasher out pretty hard over this one imo.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
September 26 2012 20:10 GMT
#325
The GSL/ESF is the best players in the world and if they are given a lower number than the largely unproven Kespa players it's not a fair competition.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
September 26 2012 20:11 GMT
#326
Losira!! Oh well, I see their point and stand by it. ESF > Kespa for me any day. (Unless IM joinskespa lol)
esports
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
September 26 2012 20:12 GMT
#327
On September 27 2012 05:04 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:35 TheSir wrote:
Well we probably hear whats this all about on LO3 tonight.



Fuck I'll tune into that. Somebody needs to ream Slasher out pretty hard over this one imo.


Crap. I may have to stay up and watch it then. Just to see if they bring this up.

Also, seems entirely too shaky to be under "Community News and Headlines". It's got less behind it than Kawaii's VeraLynn post.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
September 26 2012 20:14 GMT
#328
On September 27 2012 05:10 archonOOid wrote:
The GSL/ESF is the best players in the world and if they are given a lower number than the largely unproven Kespa players it's not a fair competition.


On September 27 2012 05:11 Luepert wrote:
Losira!! Oh well, I see their point and stand by it. ESF > Kespa for me any day. (Unless IM joinskespa lol)

At least skim through the thread if you cant be bothered to read it. There is no drama behind this, only bad, attention whore type journalism...
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
September 26 2012 20:17 GMT
#329
i dont know who this guy slasher is but its good to see some people calling him out for trying to spawn unneeded drama
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 20:31:56
September 26 2012 20:23 GMT
#330
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.

EDIT ------
If it was the case that boss went on the record with slasher about this, he will get a fucking earful from me, but I will haveto wait till he gets to the office in the morning to confirm


Well, as was the argument for the Old Boys Club, I kind of do represent the 1%. :O)

On a serious note, as I see this already exploding, I confirmed and double-checked my sources before publishing, just as I always do with my stories. Boss did in-fact go on the record.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 26 2012 20:27 GMT
#331
I posted a thread in Website Feedback to get this topic taken down and I would encourage others to post their thoughts.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371786
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 26 2012 20:27 GMT
#332
On September 27 2012 05:23 Slasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.

EDIT ------
If it was the case that boss went on the record with slasher about this, he will get a fucking earful from me, but I will haveto wait till he gets to the office in the morning to confirm


Well, as was the argument for the Old Boys Club, I kind of do represent the 1%. :O)


Seriously though man, what the fuck?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
September 26 2012 20:29 GMT
#333
They're too nice to KeSPA.
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
September 26 2012 20:34 GMT
#334
when you say, "all teams and players" i assume that means bombshells. not six people declining. especially when you can't confirm any REAL reason.

sensationalist media is shit media.
Wounded31
Profile Joined October 2011
124 Posts
September 26 2012 20:34 GMT
#335
interesting
MKP!
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 20:36:39
September 26 2012 20:35 GMT
#336
Couldn't care less.
Online tournaments hold no meaning anyway.
If they want a real tournament that the entire community would watch they would make this a live event.
Would be way more fun than one of their arena's.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 20:40:46
September 26 2012 20:39 GMT
#337
On September 27 2012 05:23 Slasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.

EDIT ------
If it was the case that boss went on the record with slasher about this, he will get a fucking earful from me, but I will haveto wait till he gets to the office in the morning to confirm


Well, as was the argument for the Old Boys Club, I kind of do represent the 1%. :O)

On a serious note, as I see this already exploding, I confirmed and double-checked my sources before publishing, just as I always do with my stories. Boss did in-fact go on the record.

And him saying "most likely" is a confirmation enough to create a big headline news about how 2 players, one of which stated his reasons very clearly, decline the invite. Do you have some undisclosed sources which said so? This cannot be proved or disproved. Unless you can name your other sources, you created a drama out of unconfirmed loosely stated sentence.

Dont give us that shit...
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
September 26 2012 20:45 GMT
#338
uninformative statements must receive any kind of punishment.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 26 2012 20:49 GMT
#339
On September 27 2012 05:39 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 05:23 Slasher wrote:
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.

EDIT ------
If it was the case that boss went on the record with slasher about this, he will get a fucking earful from me, but I will haveto wait till he gets to the office in the morning to confirm


Well, as was the argument for the Old Boys Club, I kind of do represent the 1%. :O)

On a serious note, as I see this already exploding, I confirmed and double-checked my sources before publishing, just as I always do with my stories. Boss did in-fact go on the record.

And him saying "most likely" is a confirmation enough to create a big headline news about how 2 players, one of which stated his reasons very clearly, decline the invite. Do you have some undisclosed sources which said so? This cannot be proved or disproved. Unless you can name your other sources, you created a drama out of unconfirmed loosely stated sentence.

Dont give us that shit...



I mean, of course it's true. It's just that the title that Slasher created is ridiculously misleading and that's pretty annoying.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Metak
Profile Joined August 2011
296 Posts
September 26 2012 20:52 GMT
#340
ESF players do have the power now, but sadly they can only keep this going for a certain amount of time.. after that, people will get more into the KeSPA pros as they catch up in skill, and things probably won't matter as much anymore.
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