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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
September 26 2012 19:26 GMT
#301
On September 27 2012 04:23 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:22 vthree wrote:
On September 27 2012 04:20 kinkulaattori wrote:
I think the name MLG vs KESPA is pretty funny in the first place as mlg has no players of their own.


Well, GOM doesn't technically have players of its own.


GOM does have a player of its own though!

+ Show Spoiler +
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOM_Player

I think we have a thread winner here.
101998
Profile Joined December 2010
United States318 Posts
September 26 2012 19:26 GMT
#302
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.



Just quoting this again. The OP looked sketchy as hell, then I saw it was posted by Slasher ... Not surprised to discover that this is a lot less drama than OP made it out to be.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
September 26 2012 19:29 GMT
#303
On September 27 2012 04:26 101998 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.



Just quoting this again. The OP looked sketchy as hell, then I saw it was posted by Slasher ... Not surprised to discover that this is a lot less drama than OP made it out to be.

Basically Unstable's post is enough reason to close the thread.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 26 2012 19:30 GMT
#304
Plus the declines probably happened a while ago and eSF players were happily playing in the MLG Fall qualifiers a few days ago. If there was any issues with MLG and eSF, don't think that would have happened.

If you look at the schedule for this, it actually goes on for quite a few weeks with many matches which are cross server and probably not at the best times (since you have KR vs EU vs NA). So it doesn't surprise me that players might turn this down.
YourOldBuddy
Profile Joined December 2011
Iceland94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 19:33:22
September 26 2012 19:31 GMT
#305
nvm
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 26 2012 19:33 GMT
#306
On September 27 2012 04:11 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:10 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.

People please read this!!! No need for any ESF/Kespa drama -.-.. well yet anyway....

Only two players declined MKP and Losira

MKP said in his interview he wanted to focus only on GSL for this season which easily explains why he pulled out

As for Losira it could be any kind of reasons.... the main point is this isn't ESF playersgetting together and deciding to stick it to MLG or Kespa.... it's two players declining an invite for personal reasons....


So basically, fuck Slasher.

This thread should probably be closed or the OP heavily edited.

yes, fuck slasher.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
September 26 2012 19:35 GMT
#307
Well we probably hear whats this all about on LO3 tonight.
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
September 26 2012 19:38 GMT
#308
Just invite more Euro Players, there is a lot of talent over there.
penguin8r
Profile Joined December 2011
United States10 Posts
September 26 2012 19:40 GMT
#309
On September 27 2012 04:29 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:26 101998 wrote:
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.



Just quoting this again. The OP looked sketchy as hell, then I saw it was posted by Slasher ... Not surprised to discover that this is a lot less drama than OP made it out to be.

Basically Unstable's post is enough reason to close the thread.

I interpreted that comment as referring to the statement(s) stating the reasons for ESF declining the invites.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 26 2012 19:40 GMT
#310
Meh, a lot of people already questioned the validity of the article even before the post by FXOUnstable, as well as stating that declining an invite to this is not really anything "out of the ordinary", people decline invitations all the time. I'd give people more credit, and give Slasher less, to be honest. Only a few posters here were taking things too far, a lot of this thread is people discussing the tournament format itself, I wouldn't say that the majority of the posts in here deserve being decribed negatively as this is a completely normal forum discussion.

Anyway, Fuck Slasher.
Q.E.D
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom2 Posts
September 26 2012 19:41 GMT
#311
Isn't this article more about Slasher still having a beef with MLG for sacking him?
Trust No-One
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
September 26 2012 19:44 GMT
#312
Slashers journalism is reminding me more and more of fox news journalism every time he writes or says anything.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 19:50:37
September 26 2012 19:46 GMT
#313
On September 27 2012 04:44 hunts wrote:
Slashers journalism is reminding me more and more of fox news journalism every time he writes or says anything.

The more shit he posts, the less credibility will he get. Until no one, save for the drama mongers, will believe in anything he has to write or say.
sparkk51
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 19:48:32
September 26 2012 19:47 GMT
#314
If true, ESF is being ridiculous with this one. The whole point of the tournament is to put MLG players vs Proleague players. This is a tournament hosted and funded by MLG + their sponsors, therefore they should be able to do what they want with it. And what they want to do is literally put MLG (and force the international aspect of it) vs Proleague. Don't protest against a major tournament provider for dedicating a single event to this kind of "X vs X" idea (which can only work, by the way, if proleague players make up half the battle). Especially, if they are funding it. Seriously, you cant expect MLG to transform the theme behind their tournament just because you want in. I find it selfish and, if they didn't misunderstand the idea behind the tournament, disgusting.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
September 26 2012 19:51 GMT
#315
On September 27 2012 04:47 sparkk51 wrote:
If true, ESF is being ridiculous with this one. The whole point of the tournament is to put MLG players vs Proleague players. This is a tournament hosted and funded by MLG + their sponsors, therefore they should be able to do what they want with it. And what they want to do is literally put MLG (and force the international aspect of it) vs Proleague. Don't protest against a major tournament provider for dedicating a single event to this kind of "X vs X" idea (which can only work, by the way, if proleague players make up half the battle). Especially, if they are funding it. Seriously, you cant expect MLG to transform the theme behind their tournament just because you want in. I find it selfish and, if they didn't misunderstand the idea behind the tournament, disgusting.

It's not true... Slasher just being slasher -.-

Only two players actually declined MKP who wants to focus on GSL and Losira for an unknown reason.... Again this is NOT ESF pulling it's players out... This is Slasher taking an off the record thought from FXOBoss sensationalising the shit out of it and posting it as fact -.-
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
sparkk51
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
September 26 2012 19:54 GMT
#316
On September 27 2012 04:51 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:47 sparkk51 wrote:
If true, ESF is being ridiculous with this one. The whole point of the tournament is to put MLG players vs Proleague players. This is a tournament hosted and funded by MLG + their sponsors, therefore they should be able to do what they want with it. And what they want to do is literally put MLG (and force the international aspect of it) vs Proleague. Don't protest against a major tournament provider for dedicating a single event to this kind of "X vs X" idea (which can only work, by the way, if proleague players make up half the battle). Especially, if they are funding it. Seriously, you cant expect MLG to transform the theme behind their tournament just because you want in. I find it selfish and, if they didn't misunderstand the idea behind the tournament, disgusting.

It's not true... Slasher just being slasher -.-

Only two players actually declined MKP who wants to focus on GSL and Losira for an unknown reason.... Again this is NOT ESF pulling it's players out... This is Slasher taking an off the record thought from FXOBoss sensationalising the shit out of it and posting it as fact -.-


Thanks for that, I didn't read past page 2. So It's officially confirmed to be false?
FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
September 26 2012 19:56 GMT
#317
On September 27 2012 04:54 sparkk51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:51 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On September 27 2012 04:47 sparkk51 wrote:
If true, ESF is being ridiculous with this one. The whole point of the tournament is to put MLG players vs Proleague players. This is a tournament hosted and funded by MLG + their sponsors, therefore they should be able to do what they want with it. And what they want to do is literally put MLG (and force the international aspect of it) vs Proleague. Don't protest against a major tournament provider for dedicating a single event to this kind of "X vs X" idea (which can only work, by the way, if proleague players make up half the battle). Especially, if they are funding it. Seriously, you cant expect MLG to transform the theme behind their tournament just because you want in. I find it selfish and, if they didn't misunderstand the idea behind the tournament, disgusting.

It's not true... Slasher just being slasher -.-

Only two players actually declined MKP who wants to focus on GSL and Losira for an unknown reason.... Again this is NOT ESF pulling it's players out... This is Slasher taking an off the record thought from FXOBoss sensationalising the shit out of it and posting it as fact -.-


Thanks for that, I didn't read past page 2. So It's officially confirmed to be false?


I am waiting for boss to wake up to confirm if he did infact go on the record. But I highly doubt he did, and if he actually did he will get an earful from me about it
FXOUnstable
MartinN
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain307 Posts
September 26 2012 19:56 GMT
#318
politics sux
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
September 26 2012 19:57 GMT
#319
On September 27 2012 04:54 sparkk51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:51 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On September 27 2012 04:47 sparkk51 wrote:
If true, ESF is being ridiculous with this one. The whole point of the tournament is to put MLG players vs Proleague players. This is a tournament hosted and funded by MLG + their sponsors, therefore they should be able to do what they want with it. And what they want to do is literally put MLG (and force the international aspect of it) vs Proleague. Don't protest against a major tournament provider for dedicating a single event to this kind of "X vs X" idea (which can only work, by the way, if proleague players make up half the battle). Especially, if they are funding it. Seriously, you cant expect MLG to transform the theme behind their tournament just because you want in. I find it selfish and, if they didn't misunderstand the idea behind the tournament, disgusting.

It's not true... Slasher just being slasher -.-

Only two players actually declined MKP who wants to focus on GSL and Losira for an unknown reason.... Again this is NOT ESF pulling it's players out... This is Slasher taking an off the record thought from FXOBoss sensationalising the shit out of it and posting it as fact -.-


Thanks for that, I didn't read past page 2. So It's officially confirmed to be false?

Officialy not, as Unstable was not able to get a response from Boss about what he said in the interview. Basically yes, as MKP said he is focusing on GSL and thats why he is declining everything else, Scarlett said she cant play cross server with her laggy connection and only Losira declined for the reasons unknown.
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
September 26 2012 19:57 GMT
#320
On September 27 2012 04:26 101998 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.



Just quoting this again. The OP looked sketchy as hell, then I saw it was posted by Slasher ... Not surprised to discover that this is a lot less drama than OP made it out to be.


And, once again, Slasher does something else to support the reason why I mute Live on Three every time he starts one of his "Listen to me, please, I know what's going on this time" segments. Taking a statement as on the record when Boss repeatedly said he wouldn't because he didn't know the whole story? That's hack journalism, and an excellent way to get you ostracized from your sources.
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