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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 26 2012 18:58 GMT
#261
On September 27 2012 03:56 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 03:54 xuanzue wrote:
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mvp-broadcast-schedule

Alicia SlayerS
MC SK Gaming
Puma EG
Alive Fnatic
Oz Fnatic
Crank N/A

so only mkp and losire decline invites?

Yeah, it would seem so.


MKP said in today's interview that he declined everything to focus on GSL, which leaves the whole thread to "LosirA declined invite to MvP"?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
September 26 2012 19:00 GMT
#262
On September 27 2012 03:54 Dodgin wrote:
Wait so, MC didn't pull out of the tournament? He always sides with ESF because of his teams partnership with IM.

I have a feeling this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion...


The statement says MC pulled out but the schedule hasn't been edited yet.

Puma is part of EG, Alicia is part of SlayerS both teams are not part of the ESF, Crank is teamless so he has currently no assocation with them.
The situation with Alive and Oz is currently unknown.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 26 2012 19:01 GMT
#263
On September 27 2012 03:51 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 03:49 ragz_gt wrote:
What I curious about is how many ESF player did they invite? Did they invite 8 ESF players, or 8 non KeSPA players (6 that's in the tournament and MKP + LosirA). OP and linked post is very ambiguous. It probably doesn't matter but interesting to know.

They invited 8 Koreans, 6 of which are in the foreign teams. Only 2 of the Koreans invited are a part of ESF.


No. They only had 6 spots to begin with for KR. Basically they invited 6, some turned it down and then they invited more. And now we have 6 which happens to not be in eSF. Did they decline because it was eSF's stance? Or because of other reasons, no one knows. MKP and LosirA are supposedly 2 players that turned them down. There might be others. Scarlett also pulled out of the tournament and who knows whether any EU/NA invites rejected them.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
September 26 2012 19:01 GMT
#264
On September 27 2012 03:58 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 03:56 Roman666 wrote:
On September 27 2012 03:54 xuanzue wrote:
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mvp-broadcast-schedule

Alicia SlayerS
MC SK Gaming
Puma EG
Alive Fnatic
Oz Fnatic
Crank N/A

so only mkp and losire decline invites?

Yeah, it would seem so.


MKP said in today's interview that he declined everything to focus on GSL, which leaves the whole thread to "LosirA declined invite to MvP"?


so many drama, because 2 drops...
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
September 26 2012 19:01 GMT
#265
On September 27 2012 04:00 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 03:54 Dodgin wrote:
Wait so, MC didn't pull out of the tournament? He always sides with ESF because of his teams partnership with IM.

I have a feeling this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion...


The statement says MC pulled out but the schedule hasn't been edited yet.

Puma is part of EG, Alicia is part of SlayerS both teams are not part of the ESF, Crank is teamless so he has currently no assocation with them.
The situation with Alive and Oz is currently unknown.


Where does it say that? I think you might have misread it. That or I missed something.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 26 2012 19:02 GMT
#266
On September 27 2012 04:00 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 03:54 Dodgin wrote:
Wait so, MC didn't pull out of the tournament? He always sides with ESF because of his teams partnership with IM.

I have a feeling this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion...


The statement says MC pulled out but the schedule hasn't been edited yet.

Puma is part of EG, Alicia is part of SlayerS both teams are not part of the ESF, Crank is teamless so he has currently no assocation with them.
The situation with Alive and Oz is currently unknown.


Absent from the list of competitors is any representation from any of the teams under the Korean eSports Federation, representing teams in Korea not under KeSPA, with the exception of SlayerS. All six Korean players invited, among them Jang "MC" Min Chul, Fnatic's Han "aLive" Lee Seok, and Lee "PuMa" Ho Joon, are signed to western teams SK Gaming, Fnatic, and Evil Geniuses, respectively. Incredible Miracle's Hwang "LosirA" Kang Ho and Prime's Lee "MarineKing" Jung Hoon are said to have turned down invites.


This does not say MC pulled out unless I am missing something?
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
September 26 2012 19:02 GMT
#267
gamespot making drama to test the internet traffic for starcraft2
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 26 2012 19:03 GMT
#268
Wow, that OP wasn't confusing...so pretty much only LosirA pulled because of this? Or were there more invites to begin with and were replaced already?
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
September 26 2012 19:03 GMT
#269
A bold move will prompt bold responses right? Sucks that MKP isn't going to be there but he really need to win his first GSL, he sooo deserves it.
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 19:13:53
September 26 2012 19:04 GMT
#270
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.

EDIT ------
If it was the case that boss went on the record with slasher about this, he will get a fucking earful from me, but I will haveto wait till he gets to the office in the morning to confirm
FXOUnstable
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
September 26 2012 19:04 GMT
#271
On September 27 2012 04:02 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:00 Mackus wrote:
On September 27 2012 03:54 Dodgin wrote:
Wait so, MC didn't pull out of the tournament? He always sides with ESF because of his teams partnership with IM.

I have a feeling this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion...


The statement says MC pulled out but the schedule hasn't been edited yet.

Puma is part of EG, Alicia is part of SlayerS both teams are not part of the ESF, Crank is teamless so he has currently no assocation with them.
The situation with Alive and Oz is currently unknown.


Show nested quote +
Absent from the list of competitors is any representation from any of the teams under the Korean eSports Federation, representing teams in Korea not under KeSPA, with the exception of SlayerS. All six Korean players invited, among them Jang "MC" Min Chul, Fnatic's Han "aLive" Lee Seok, and Lee "PuMa" Ho Joon, are signed to western teams SK Gaming, Fnatic, and Evil Geniuses, respectively. Incredible Miracle's Hwang "LosirA" Kang Ho and Prime's Lee "MarineKing" Jung Hoon are said to have turned down invites.


This does not say MC pulled out unless I am missing something?

No, MC did not pull out. In fact it states that only 2 players pulled out + they mention Scarlett in the OP.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
September 26 2012 19:05 GMT
#272
On September 27 2012 04:02 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:00 Mackus wrote:
On September 27 2012 03:54 Dodgin wrote:
Wait so, MC didn't pull out of the tournament? He always sides with ESF because of his teams partnership with IM.

I have a feeling this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion...


The statement says MC pulled out but the schedule hasn't been edited yet.

Puma is part of EG, Alicia is part of SlayerS both teams are not part of the ESF, Crank is teamless so he has currently no assocation with them.
The situation with Alive and Oz is currently unknown.


Show nested quote +
Absent from the list of competitors is any representation from any of the teams under the Korean eSports Federation, representing teams in Korea not under KeSPA, with the exception of SlayerS. All six Korean players invited, among them Jang "MC" Min Chul, Fnatic's Han "aLive" Lee Seok, and Lee "PuMa" Ho Joon, are signed to western teams SK Gaming, Fnatic, and Evil Geniuses, respectively. Incredible Miracle's Hwang "LosirA" Kang Ho and Prime's Lee "MarineKing" Jung Hoon are said to have turned down invites.


This does not say MC pulled out unless I am missing something?


Yeah it was a mis-read from someone else believing it was the case, why do I trust the internet >_>
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 19:09:33
September 26 2012 19:06 GMT
#273
On September 27 2012 04:03 glzElectromaster wrote:
Wow, that OP wasn't confusing...so pretty much only LosirA pulled because of this? Or were there more invites to begin with and were replaced already?


No one 'pulled out'. They just turned down the invite when it was given. MKP and LosirA supposedly did the turning down. MKP already said he is focusing on GSL. Not sure about LosirA.

The weird part is someone from FXO said that it MIGHT have to do with the number of invites. But if it was an eSF wide effort to reject this event, wouldn't FXO know about it? What if Gumiho was invited?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 26 2012 19:06 GMT
#274
I'm going to boycott this MLG for ESF's sake.
HornyHydra
Profile Joined February 2011
Taiwan222 Posts
September 26 2012 19:07 GMT
#275
I don't see how Kespa teams get 24 spots while ESF teams only get 8...It just makes no sense. It should atleast be 50/50 if not just having spots for players who are famous/show good results in SC2.
Prime ♥
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 26 2012 19:07 GMT
#276
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.


Off topic but... WTF happening with FXO Inv6? It supposed to end 4 weeks ago...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
September 26 2012 19:08 GMT
#277
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.

So the bad journalism is a cause of this whole drama? You got to be kidding me...
FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
September 26 2012 19:10 GMT
#278
On September 27 2012 04:07 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.


Off topic but... WTF happening with FXO Inv6? It supposed to end 4 weeks ago...



Disgusting service from the ISP provider we have in our office, we will air it very shortly, some of the r032 games will be out of date, but the rest were not played until we knew when we can get it back up and running
FXOUnstable
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
September 26 2012 19:10 GMT
#279
On September 27 2012 04:04 FXOUnstable wrote:
I am 99.9% surethat this comment was not meant as a statement because I was sitting next to fxoboss when he was talking about it and he specifically said to me "why does he keep asking me to go on the record when I don't know the whole story.

It's 3am at the moment and I txt'd boss but i will have to wait for confirmation.

Regardless, players are allowed to decline a tournament whenever they want. It is not up to anyone else other than players if they accept or not.

Players decline the FXO invitational all the time, their reasons are none of anybodies business but their own.

FXO declined an invite into the EGMC. Does this mean we hate eg and want their event to fail? No it doesn't, it means we are in GSTL and IPTL already and don't have time in our schedule for anything else.The players that would have been invited to the MvP league would already be extremely busy with GSL/GSTL/IPL etc so they have barely any time as it is.

People please read this!!! No need for any ESF/Kespa drama -.-.. well yet anyway....

Only two players declined MKP and Losira

MKP said in his interview he wanted to focus only on GSL for this season which easily explains why he pulled out

As for Losira it could be any kind of reasons.... the main point is this isn't ESF playersgetting together and deciding to stick it to MLG or Kespa.... it's two players declining an invite for personal reasons....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5537 Posts
September 26 2012 19:11 GMT
#280
On September 27 2012 04:07 HornyHydra wrote:
I don't see how Kespa teams get 24 spots while ESF teams only get 8...It just makes no sense. It should atleast be 50/50 if not just having spots for players who are famous/show good results in SC2.

It's not the ESF vs KeSPA invitational, it's the MLG vs Proleague invitational. They can invite whoever they please.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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