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onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 02:19:22
September 25 2012 02:17 GMT
#721
On September 25 2012 11:08 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
guys.. the PS reply is from one of my girlfriends : she told me to never trust women.. I guess she knew what she said..

I love women , they are beatufiul angels that create drama in our lives ...

Sorry once again , I think there are a lot of smurfers that can create ,, new players '' .. I mostly wanted to train on another nick name .. never thought it would get here but seems I underestimated the community attraction for gamer-girls :D




I will believe you may have not known she charged for lessons and even that you got no profit form those. But you essentially power leveled her from platinum to GM.. did she pay you for that? I don't see how you could have gotten no money at all from this because you then truly would have no incentives... You already had your own smurf accounts to practice as you said.. Why risk this stuff if you got NOTHING at all?

On September 25 2012 11:10 Rubber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:02 Fionn wrote:
So if he didn't get money from this, what the fuck was the incentive for DeathAngel?

PS . Never thrust women , they are evil.


Oh, okay.

The incentive was that he got to play in showmatches that he would not have been otherwise invited to.


He would not have needed to ladder on her account though... I can understand the showmatch stuff, to prove to himself. But why risk the laddering part for no money? I am sure he must have been paid something, at least for the "power leveling."
Livin' this life like it was written.
xerox23
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden16 Posts
September 25 2012 02:18 GMT
#722
On September 25 2012 11:17 Northern_iight wrote:
nah. I think deathangel should be forgiven. He is one of the few people when busted, came out and gave an apology. To note, many pros secretly level other accounts for money. All this smurfing and power leveling people do is for money. What deathangel did is no different than what other pros do everyday. Only difference is that he got caught. Hopefuly his apology was sincere and he will stop those activities. I don't remember him in any past wrong doings, so he deserves a second chance. Mostly because he has admitted to it and said he will won't continue those acts.


This..
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
September 25 2012 02:18 GMT
#723
On September 25 2012 11:15 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Death angel is trying to play the dumb naive guy in his post. I don't buy that for a second and believe he was fully aware of what he was doing. His post is just trying to make excuses for his actions instead of taking responsibility for them.


my friend.. if I wanna scamm you , I can take everything you have , but I don't want that .. I love you like you are .

If I would like to do coaching , I would do it on my own.. it just happened that I played someone's account and the owner of that account tried to scamm some ppl .

But I think there wasn't any paid coaching.. I really wanna know who really paid any coaching to veralynn.. cause I think it is just a rumour.. this can't be true..

Ignorance doesn't mean it didn't happen. There are multiple sources throughout this thread which claim that she charged money for teaching.

Also there's no excuse for winning money in showmatches and tournaments while smurfing as another player.
=Þ
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
September 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#724
Man. Fake gamer girls.. SMH
I'm an old man now
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
September 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#725
On September 25 2012 11:18 xerox23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:17 Northern_iight wrote:
nah. I think deathangel should be forgiven. He is one of the few people when busted, came out and gave an apology. To note, many pros secretly level other accounts for money. All this smurfing and power leveling people do is for money. What deathangel did is no different than what other pros do everyday. Only difference is that he got caught. Hopefuly his apology was sincere and he will stop those activities. I don't remember him in any past wrong doings, so he deserves a second chance. Mostly because he has admitted to it and said he will won't continue those acts.


This..

To be fair playing in showmatches for them is completely different from what people do every day...
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
September 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#726
On September 25 2012 11:17 onPHYRE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:08 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
guys.. the PS reply is from one of my girlfriends : she told me to never trust women.. I guess she knew what she said..

I love women , they are beatufiul angels that create drama in our lives ...

Sorry once again , I think there are a lot of smurfers that can create ,, new players '' .. I mostly wanted to train on another nick name .. never thought it would get here but seems I underestimated the community attraction for gamer-girls :D




I will believe you may have not known she charged for lessons and even that you got no profit form those. But you essentially power leveled her from platinum to GM.. did she pay you for that? I don't see how you could have gotten no money at all from this because you then truly would have no incentives... You already had your own smurf accounts to practice as you said.. Why risk this stuff if you got NOTHING at all?


She obviously paid for the power leveling services... Vera isn't THAT attractive to do for free*
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 02:22:53
September 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#727
On September 25 2012 11:17 onPHYRE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:08 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
guys.. the PS reply is from one of my girlfriends : she told me to never trust women.. I guess she knew what she said..

I love women , they are beatufiul angels that create drama in our lives ...

Sorry once again , I think there are a lot of smurfers that can create ,, new players '' .. I mostly wanted to train on another nick name .. never thought it would get here but seems I underestimated the community attraction for gamer-girls :D




I will believe you may have not known she charged for lessons and even that you got no profit form those. But you essentially power leveled her from platinum to GM.. did she pay you for that? I don't see how you could have gotten no money at all from this because you then truly would have no incentives... You already had your own smurf accounts to practice as you said.. Why risk this stuff if you got NOTHING at all?


I was thinking this same thing. It doesn't make any sense. This guy was doing wayyy too much for her to not be receiving some sort of royalty or incentive from coaching money or something.

Thats why I believe the entire story isn't coming out from him. Definitely getting that feeling that a lot of things are being kept under the table and that he's just giving that sad panda front of a story how he wanted to be able to play in showmatches for an excuse.

The truth wouldn't come out though unless Veralynn came out and called this guy out on it.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
September 25 2012 02:21 GMT
#728
On September 25 2012 11:19 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:18 xerox23 wrote:
On September 25 2012 11:17 Northern_iight wrote:
nah. I think deathangel should be forgiven. He is one of the few people when busted, came out and gave an apology. To note, many pros secretly level other accounts for money. All this smurfing and power leveling people do is for money. What deathangel did is no different than what other pros do everyday. Only difference is that he got caught. Hopefuly his apology was sincere and he will stop those activities. I don't remember him in any past wrong doings, so he deserves a second chance. Mostly because he has admitted to it and said he will won't continue those acts.


This..

To be fair playing in showmatches for them is completely different from what people do every day...


You'd be surprised. If you also consider playhem daily's
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
September 25 2012 02:22 GMT
#729
On September 25 2012 11:08 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
guys.. the PS reply is from one of my girlfriends : she told me to never trust women.. I guess she knew what she said..

I love women , they are beatufiul angels that create drama in our lives ...

Sorry once again , I think there are a lot of smurfers that can create ,, new players '' .. I mostly wanted to train on another nick name .. never thought it would get here but seems I underestimated the community attraction for gamer-girls :D



I don't really know you as a player, but as a person I have to say it's pretty lame you engage in an act that defrauds the community of actual money, and then divert the blame to the very community you defrauded by suggesting their "attraction for gamer-girls" is the only reason this could have succeeded, as opposed to suggesting you are personally at fault. It's the exact same psychology as Bernie Madoff blaming his investors for being greedy after defrauding them.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
September 25 2012 02:23 GMT
#730
On September 25 2012 11:17 Northern_iight wrote:
nah. I think deathangel should be forgiven. He is one of the few people when busted, came out and gave an apology. To note, many pros secretly level other accounts for money. All this smurfing and power leveling people do is for money. What deathangel did is no different than what other pros do everyday. Only difference is that he got caught. Hopefuly his apology was sincere and he will stop those activities. I don't remember him in any past wrong doings, so he deserves a second chance. Mostly because he has admitted to it and said he will won't continue those acts.



I think the main difference is, the person he helped out ended up scamming others with the false pretense that she was in fact GM. Where as in most situations (and the reason people don't get caught) someone pays for the service, gets power leveled, and then shows it off to his friends (ePeen style).
Livin' this life like it was written.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
September 25 2012 02:24 GMT
#731
someone should make a meme "scumbag female GM" lol
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Raigeki
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong207 Posts
September 25 2012 02:24 GMT
#732
kawaiirice ftw, justice is served
Sutekhy
Profile Joined July 2012
43 Posts
September 25 2012 02:24 GMT
#733
Good job KR, helping keep the community peer and uncorrupted. I think it's time you pick up a different nick, get to work, and keep your head down for a while DeathAngel.
xerox23
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden16 Posts
September 25 2012 02:25 GMT
#734
On September 25 2012 11:24 ilbh wrote:
someone should make a meme "scumbag female GM" lol


she wasnt even gm since DeathAngel played her to gm
Rubber
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 02:27:17
September 25 2012 02:25 GMT
#735
Of course she probably paid him for the leveling, I didn't know that was what was up for dispute.
"DONT TOUCH ME WITH THAT @#$%ING PROBE." User was probed for this post.
Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
September 25 2012 02:26 GMT
#736
On September 25 2012 11:23 onPHYRE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:17 Northern_iight wrote:
nah. I think deathangel should be forgiven. He is one of the few people when busted, came out and gave an apology. To note, many pros secretly level other accounts for money. All this smurfing and power leveling people do is for money. What deathangel did is no different than what other pros do everyday. Only difference is that he got caught. Hopefuly his apology was sincere and he will stop those activities. I don't remember him in any past wrong doings, so he deserves a second chance. Mostly because he has admitted to it and said he will won't continue those acts.



I think the main difference is, the person he helped out ended up scamming others with the false pretense that she was in fact GM. Where as in most situations (and the reason people don't get caught) someone pays for the service, gets power leveled, and then shows it off to his friends (ePeen style).


DA said he didn't know that Vera was scamming people due to her showmatch wins and GM status. He claims to know she coached for free but not for $. Seems fishy but I would give him benefit of doubt because of first offense.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
September 25 2012 02:26 GMT
#737
On September 25 2012 11:15 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Death angel is trying to play the dumb naive guy in his post. I don't buy that for a second and believe he was fully aware of what he was doing. His post is just trying to make excuses for his actions instead of taking responsibility for them.


my friend.. if I wanna scamm you , I can take everything you have , but I don't want that .. I love you like you are .

If I would like to do coaching , I would do it on my own.. it just happened that I played someone's account and the owner of that account tried to scamm some ppl .

But I think there wasn't any paid coaching.. I really wanna know who really paid any coaching to veralynn.. cause I think it is just a rumour.. this can't be true..


Seriously? "if I wanna scam you, I can take everything you have"

You're accused of not taking responsibility for the damages caused by this whole mess, and you're going to say that if you really wanted to engage in fraud, you would be capable of taking everything the person you defraud has? This doesn't impress the community, and it certainly doesn't provide any actual vindicating evidence.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
September 25 2012 02:26 GMT
#738
On September 25 2012 11:19 Northern_iight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:17 onPHYRE wrote:
On September 25 2012 11:08 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
guys.. the PS reply is from one of my girlfriends : she told me to never trust women.. I guess she knew what she said..

I love women , they are beatufiul angels that create drama in our lives ...

Sorry once again , I think there are a lot of smurfers that can create ,, new players '' .. I mostly wanted to train on another nick name .. never thought it would get here but seems I underestimated the community attraction for gamer-girls :D




I will believe you may have not known she charged for lessons and even that you got no profit form those. But you essentially power leveled her from platinum to GM.. did she pay you for that? I don't see how you could have gotten no money at all from this because you then truly would have no incentives... You already had your own smurf accounts to practice as you said.. Why risk this stuff if you got NOTHING at all?


She obviously paid for the power leveling services... Vera isn't THAT attractive to do for free*

Any pics of Vera? Please post
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
September 25 2012 02:26 GMT
#739
kinda funny, i actually agree with death angel on how no one wanted him for show matches ... but omg! a girl everyone was so excited, ya what he did was wrong, she is 100x more at fault than he is but... dude has a point.
DeathAngel[ro]
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania79 Posts
September 25 2012 02:26 GMT
#740
On September 25 2012 11:22 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:08 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
guys.. the PS reply is from one of my girlfriends : she told me to never trust women.. I guess she knew what she said..

I love women , they are beatufiul angels that create drama in our lives ...

Sorry once again , I think there are a lot of smurfers that can create ,, new players '' .. I mostly wanted to train on another nick name .. never thought it would get here but seems I underestimated the community attraction for gamer-girls :D



I don't really know you as a player, but as a person I have to say it's pretty lame you engage in an act that defrauds the community of actual money, and then divert the blame to the very community you defrauded by suggesting their "attraction for gamer-girls" is the only reason this could have succeeded, as opposed to suggesting you are personally at fault. It's the exact same psychology as Bernie Madoff blaming his investors for being greedy after defrauding them.



you read me wrong sir , I don't want your money.. I didn't scammed you for anything , I played on some other account without realising that it can get to this point , and I feel sorry for guys like you but I would never ask someone to do coaching with me pretending that I am GSL champion.. that would be a scam .

feeling bad for everyone.. really.. I don't meant to hurt anyone.. and I did it indirectly it seems , my intentions were not like that.
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