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desarrisc
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Canada226 Posts
September 25 2012 02:06 GMT
#701
Since deathangel confirmed this, can't we get on with our lives now?
"Your opponent's doing anything out of the ordinary? Just go f**king kill him." -Day [9]
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
September 25 2012 02:07 GMT
#702
I vote we ban deathangel from all showmatches from here on out.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
DeathAngel[ro]
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania79 Posts
September 25 2012 02:08 GMT
#703
guys.. the PS reply is from one of my girlfriends : she told me to never trust women.. I guess she knew what she said..

I love women , they are beatufiul angels that create drama in our lives ...

Sorry once again , I think there are a lot of smurfers that can create ,, new players '' .. I mostly wanted to train on another nick name .. never thought it would get here but seems I underestimated the community attraction for gamer-girls :D

a very funny zerg player
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
September 25 2012 02:09 GMT
#704
Death angel is trying to play the dumb naive guy in his post. I don't buy that for a second and believe he was fully aware of what he was doing. His post is just trying to make excuses for his actions instead of taking responsibility for them.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
September 25 2012 02:09 GMT
#705
On September 25 2012 11:08 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
guys.. the PS reply is from one of my girlfriends : she told me to never trust women.. I guess she knew what she said..

I love women , they are beatufiul angels that create drama in our lives ...

Sorry once again , I think there are a lot of smurfers that can create ,, new players '' .. I mostly wanted to train on another nick name .. never thought it would get here but seems I underestimated the community attraction for gamer-girls :D



From "One of my girlfriend's' "

Well played sir. Well played.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
September 25 2012 02:09 GMT
#706
Has VeraLynn come out to say anything yet?
Kawaii should post Death Angel's reply in the OP
Rubber
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
September 25 2012 02:10 GMT
#707
On September 25 2012 11:02 Fionn wrote:
So if he didn't get money from this, what the fuck was the incentive for DeathAngel?

Show nested quote +
PS . Never thrust women , they are evil.


Oh, okay.

The incentive was that he got to play in showmatches that he would not have been otherwise invited to.
"DONT TOUCH ME WITH THAT @#$%ING PROBE." User was probed for this post.
DeathAngel[ro]
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania79 Posts
September 25 2012 02:10 GMT
#708
On September 25 2012 11:07 goswser wrote:
I vote we ban deathangel from all showmatches from here on out.



I would never got into any showmatch anyway because I don't posses a vagina , but thank you for comming with this smart idea sir , 100 hats down to you.
a very funny zerg player
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 25 2012 02:10 GMT
#709
Ok so where is Vera? Fuck everytime i hear that name i always think about the sick old women in the movie braindead -,-
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 02:13:30
September 25 2012 02:12 GMT
#710
On September 25 2012 11:10 Rubber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:02 Fionn wrote:
So if he didn't get money from this, what the fuck was the incentive for DeathAngel?

PS . Never thrust women , they are evil.


Oh, okay.

The incentive was that he got to play in showmatches that he would not have been otherwise invited to.


Sorry, but I'm not buying that whole "Sad puppy that just wanted to be able to play in a showmatch to experience it" bs.

I'm getting an overwhelming sense of that "Not feeling like you're hearing the entire story" type vibe from his explanation.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
September 25 2012 02:12 GMT
#711
On September 25 2012 11:10 Rubber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:02 Fionn wrote:
So if he didn't get money from this, what the fuck was the incentive for DeathAngel?

PS . Never thrust women , they are evil.


Oh, okay.

The incentive was that he got to play in showmatches that he would not have been otherwise invited to.


well we dont know that he's telling the truth or not though
자연속에 내가 있다! 운!지!
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
September 25 2012 02:13 GMT
#712
On September 25 2012 11:10 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:07 goswser wrote:
I vote we ban deathangel from all showmatches from here on out.



I would never got into any showmatch anyway because I don't posses a vagina , but thank you for comming with this smart idea sir , 100 hats down to you.

I favor this punishment! No sense in ruining your career as a progamer, in the past this community has let cheaters and people abusing tournaments to stay. I believe Kawaiirice has even abused tournaments before, among others such as TT1. As such I think a permban would be a bit too harsh, especially considering he wasn't hacking or cheating.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
September 25 2012 02:13 GMT
#713
Poll: Ban VeraLynn in TL as though she never existed?

Yes (263)
 
89%

No (32)
 
11%

295 total votes

Your vote: Ban VeraLynn in TL as though she never existed?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Ban VeraLynn in Esports for life?

Yes (335)
 
79%

No (88)
 
21%

423 total votes

Your vote: Ban VeraLynn in Esports for life?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Ban DeathAngel[ro] in Esports for life?

No (278)
 
65%

Yes (152)
 
35%

430 total votes

Your vote: Ban DeathAngel[ro] in Esports for life?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Archible
Profile Joined August 2012
United States10 Posts
September 25 2012 02:14 GMT
#714
Ahh... Damnit. I hate when this kind of thing happens.
Lowering Standards Of Quality Since 1995.
DeathAngel[ro]
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania79 Posts
September 25 2012 02:15 GMT
#715
On September 25 2012 11:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Death angel is trying to play the dumb naive guy in his post. I don't buy that for a second and believe he was fully aware of what he was doing. His post is just trying to make excuses for his actions instead of taking responsibility for them.


my friend.. if I wanna scamm you , I can take everything you have , but I don't want that .. I love you like you are .

If I would like to do coaching , I would do it on my own.. it just happened that I played someone's account and the owner of that account tried to scamm some ppl .

But I think there wasn't any paid coaching.. I really wanna know who really paid any coaching to veralynn.. cause I think it is just a rumour.. this can't be true..
a very funny zerg player
GGodSlayer
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada13 Posts
September 25 2012 02:15 GMT
#716
Detective Kawaii :D thats epic how dedicated you were to figuring this out Kawaii!!!!! Kawaii fighting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
September 25 2012 02:16 GMT
#717
On September 25 2012 10:56 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 10:49 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hello everyone
This is DeathAngel

1st : hats of to KawaiiRice , very smart and observant guy and nice job in
studying all the stuff , remember playing you on both accounts on ladder , you
being fateofseven on EU server

2nd : yea.. I'm a scumbag and I played on other ppl accounts , I also play on
some smurfs too not only on my nick , just to try different strategies etc.

3rd : I am very sorry to everyone affected by this , I basically played on
someone's else account , make it into GM .. wich seems ok , like a smurf for me..

but the effects were very bad it seems
I am very sorry for this , but I played legit starcraft , not map hackign or

something .. I am interested in the competitive aspect of the game.. and I never
got the chance to play in any showmatch on my own.. never got invited.. was
amazed when I found out that there are so many ppl interested to see a girl
play.. so I accepted to play.. wich is bad.. I am such a scumbag.. I should just
refuse it..

I also hurt some ppl it seems , I just wanted to play some good
matches of sc2 in wich seemed a friendly showmatch ..
I just wanted to see if I am skilled enough to beat someone good in a showmatch .

What can I say.. I shouldn't done that.. I would also feel bad if someone would

come pretending to be someone else and beating me.. feels bad , but I had no

interest in scamming someone or put them to get coaching from veralynn.
I just played on her account as a smurf of mine , and now I feel kind of dumb

hearing ppl paid coaching lessons.. I thought there was only free coaching cause

I would see free coaching all the time when I was looking at her stream , I am

pretty sure there must be some misunderstanding regarding this.

Feel sorry ppl were so naive , but that must be a lesson also , why would you

take lessons from a girl just because she is gm , and also , don't you see that

the coaching is not GM level ? or maybe the coaching was good and deserved the

money.. I have no ideea and I feel very sorry if the things were like this.

I should also play only my own account from now on , I am not interested in

scamming ppl for money or other stuff like that.. I am a legit player and I can

play and win showmatches against those players on my own , also I can coach on my

own and give good coaching and good advices , what I did was stupid and didn't

benefit me in any way .

I really feel sorry , I just wanted to play some good games , my intentions were

good.. but.. stuff happens.. such a sick life..
I trully feel very sorry for the guys that were upset to have lost to a ,,girl''

, you guys actually lost to me .

Also very sorry for my english.
It's 5am and I am tired.

I am kind of a guy that sold a gun to a random guy on the street then realising the crime

PS . Never thrust women , they are evil.




What he did was definitely not right, but I can't help but feel a bit sorry for him.
He's a guy that wants to make it big, and was offered this chance through a proxy, and naturally he took it.

I can see where DeathAngel would be coming from. He was given opportunities through Veralynn to do some showmatches, and he was previously denied them because he wasn't popular enough. Although since Veralynn was a girl, she was given such an opportunity. However, it only makes it more difficult for him now for his future in eSports. But I am a bit impressed that he had some good showmatch results against some more well known players like Ziktomini and Sjow. I guess this is the reality that eSports is a business and there is some talent out there that just can't be shown because its not possible.
Kumihothesilent
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada113 Posts
September 25 2012 02:16 GMT
#718
On September 25 2012 11:10 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:07 goswser wrote:
I vote we ban deathangel from all showmatches from here on out.



I would never got into any showmatch anyway because I don't posses a vagina , but thank you for comming with this smart idea sir , 100 hats down to you.

Well its good you admitted your wrongs but be nice to see veralyns side as well to this as we only have half the story
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
September 25 2012 02:16 GMT
#719
On September 25 2012 11:15 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 11:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Death angel is trying to play the dumb naive guy in his post. I don't buy that for a second and believe he was fully aware of what he was doing. His post is just trying to make excuses for his actions instead of taking responsibility for them.


my friend.. if I wanna scamm you , I can take everything you have , but I don't want that .. I love you like you are .

If I would like to do coaching , I would do it on my own.. it just happened that I played someone's account and the owner of that account tried to scamm some ppl .

But I think there wasn't any paid coaching.. I really wanna know who really paid any coaching to veralynn.. cause I think it is just a rumour.. this can't be true..


Reps from SixPoolGaming have already come forward and said that people that paid for coaching from Veralynn messaged them complaining asking for a refund after they saw this entire scam going on.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
September 25 2012 02:17 GMT
#720
nah. I think deathangel should be forgiven. He is one of the few people when busted, came out and gave an apology. To note, many pros secretly level other accounts for money. All this smurfing and power leveling people do is for money. What deathangel did is no different than what other pros do everyday. Only difference is that he got caught. Hopefuly his apology was sincere and he will stop those activities. I don't remember him in any past wrong doings, so he deserves a second chance. Mostly because he has admitted to it and said he will won't continue those acts.
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