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On September 25 2012 06:37 Poopi wrote: Does anyone know which level she really was? I mean if she was coaching with only mid/high master knowledge people would start to notice she is in fact not GM level? I was wondering that too. Maybe some people who got coached by her can be find.
I also hope that DeathAngels reputation is burned. We don't need people who do such shady stuff.
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Wow, what a fraud! Rice stepping up like a baller GG veralynn no re for you ...
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Kawaiirice, you are a bawss, new nickname, Sherlock Holmes indeed. Thanks for sticking to your guts and investigating something you thought needed a deeper look into!
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seriously, who cares?
oh right. popcorn.
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On September 25 2012 08:34 FLuE wrote: So I might be remembering this wrong, but I remember watching the show recently with her and sheth on Chans show.
Sheth was looking at some of her game replays and going over them and I thought I heard her say a few times comments along the lines of "ya I'm not sure why I did that" or basically forgetting what she was thinking. Now I remember at the time just feeling like the whole thing was just all around a bit off.
This could totally be a revisionist way of thinking about it, but curious to go back and watch through the VOD now and listen to comments and reaction about her play considering.
I think you are right I remember watching the show and she didn't seem to have any real answers to the points Sheth was making as to why she did particular things during the game.
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On September 25 2012 10:37 emc wrote: seriously, who cares?
oh right. popcorn. she won showmatches and did coaching
illegitimately
for money
use your brain for a second
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On September 25 2012 10:05 ch33psh33p wrote:You are massively mad. And pretty embarrassing.
I disagree I think that he brought up a valid point. Also zia anybody?
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On September 25 2012 05:15 Xacez wrote: Ok guys we are now done with the TargA - iNcontroL drama, this is the next one. Christ, never a day huh? What happened in the Targa - incontrol drama? i missed it. Link?
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On September 25 2012 10:26 CapnAmerica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 10:23 SniXSniPe wrote:On September 25 2012 10:16 Jerubaal wrote: Who was that girl a while back who made her bf level her account to mastesr/GM? Kalu I think? IIRC Kalu is/was actually a high masters-level player, though she was close with Major and... ST_Rainbow? Not sure, been a while since I saw that name. But she's actually pretty sick good.
lol...
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For all the people saying " ooo look another drama" well this has its bases on facts, and the facts are that she made money illegitimately. Are we just going to let it happen?
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On September 25 2012 10:32 soiii wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 06:37 Poopi wrote: Does anyone know which level she really was? I mean if she was coaching with only mid/high master knowledge people would start to notice she is in fact not GM level? I was wondering that too. Maybe some people who got coached by her can be find. I also hope that DeathAngels reputation is burned. We don't need people who do such shady stuff.
I watched one of her first casts. She was coaching a silver guy or something like that. She was telling him about his mechanics, when he missed a larvae inject, creep spread, supply and very basic stuff any silver person would be able to follow.
I remember I asked something about a timing (Immortal/sentry all-in or something like that) in ZvP, my question was ignored and a little disapointed (since we were like 10 guys in the chat) I switched to watch something else.
The funny thing I remember is... she was really secure about what she was telling, it would be hard to notice that actually she had no idea since she never talked about a strat (just basic mechanics).
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Hello everyone This is DeathAngel
1st : hats of to KawaiiRice , very smart and observant guy and nice job in studying all the stuff , remember playing you on both accounts on ladder , you being fateofseven on EU server
2nd : yea.. I'm a scumbag and I played on other ppl accounts , I also play on some smurfs too not only on my nick , just to try different strategies etc.
3rd : I am very sorry to everyone affected by this , I basically played on someone's else account , make it into GM .. wich seems ok , like a smurf for me..
but the effects were very bad it seems I am very sorry for this , but I played legit starcraft , not map hackign or
something .. I am interested in the competitive aspect of the game.. and I never got the chance to play in any showmatch on my own.. never got invited.. was amazed when I found out that there are so many ppl interested to see a girl play.. so I accepted to play.. wich is bad.. I am such a scumbag.. I should just refuse it..
I also hurt some ppl it seems , I just wanted to play some good matches of sc2 in wich seemed a friendly showmatch .. I just wanted to see if I am skilled enough to beat someone good in a showmatch .
What can I say.. I shouldn't done that.. I would also feel bad if someone would
come pretending to be someone else and beating me.. feels bad , but I had no
interest in scamming someone or put them to get coaching from veralynn. I just played on her account as a smurf of mine , and now I feel kind of dumb
hearing ppl paid coaching lessons.. I thought there was only free coaching cause
I would see free coaching all the time when I was looking at her stream , I am
pretty sure there must be some misunderstanding regarding this.
Feel sorry ppl were so naive , but that must be a lesson also , why would you
take lessons from a girl just because she is gm , and also , don't you see that
the coaching is not GM level ? or maybe the coaching was good and deserved the
money.. I have no ideea and I feel very sorry if the things were like this.
I should also play only my own account from now on , I am not interested in
scamming ppl for money or other stuff like that.. I am a legit player and I can
play and win showmatches against those players on my own , also I can coach on my
own and give good coaching and good advices , what I did was stupid and didn't
benefit me in any way .
I really feel sorry , I just wanted to play some good games , my intentions were
good.. but.. stuff happens.. such a sick life.. I trully feel very sorry for the guys that were upset to have lost to a ,,girl''
, you guys actually lost to me .
Also very sorry for my english. It's 5am and I am tired.
I am kind of a guy that sold a gun to a random guy on the street then realising the crime
PS . Never trust women , they are evil.
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On September 25 2012 10:49 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: Hello everyone This is DeathAngel
1st : hats of to KawaiiRice , very smart and observant guy and nice job in studying all the stuff , remember playing you on both accounts on ladder , you being fateofseven on EU server
2nd : yea.. I'm a scumbag and I played on other ppl accounts , I also play on some smurfs too not only on my nick , just to try different strategies etc.
3rd : I am very sorry to everyone affected by this , I basically played on someone's else account , make it into GM .. wich seems ok , like a smurf for me..
but the effects were very bad it seems I am very sorry for this , but I played legit starcraft , not map hackign or
something .. I am interested in the competitive aspect of the game.. and I never got the chance to play in any showmatch on my own.. never got invited.. was amazed when I found out that there are so many ppl interested to see a girl play.. so I accepted to play.. wich is bad.. I am such a scumbag.. I should just refuse it..
I also hurt some ppl it seems , I just wanted to play some good matches of sc2 in wich seemed a friendly showmatch .. I just wanted to see if I am skilled enough to beat someone good in a showmatch .
What can I say.. I shouldn't done that.. I would also feel bad if someone would
come pretending to be someone else and beating me.. feels bad , but I had no
interest in scamming someone or put them to get coaching from veralynn. I just played on her account as a smurf of mine , and now I feel kind of dumb
hearing ppl paid coaching lessons.. I thought there was only free coaching cause
I would see free coaching all the time when I was looking at her stream , I am
pretty sure there must be some misunderstanding regarding this.
Feel sorry ppl were so naive , but that must be a lesson also , why would you
take lessons from a girl just because she is gm , and also , don't you see that
the coaching is not GM level ? or maybe the coaching was good and deserved the
money.. I have no ideea and I feel very sorry if the things were like this.
I should also play only my own account from now on , I am not interested in
scamming ppl for money or other stuff like that.. I am a legit player and I can
play and win showmatches against those players on my own , also I can coach on my
own and give good coaching and good advices , what I did was stupid and didn't
benefit me in any way .
I really feel sorry , I just wanted to play some good games , my intentions were
good.. but.. stuff happens.. such a sick life.. I trully feel very sorry for the guys that were upset to have lost to a ,,girl''
, you guys actually lost to me .
Also very sorry for my english. It's 5am and I am tired.
I am kind of a guy that sold a gun to a random guy on the street then realising the crime
PS . Never thrust women , they are evil.
Thought her coaching was "Free"?? I'm calling bs. You could have very well been receiving a hand in of the coaching profit for helping her make a name for herself. I'm seeing a lot of playing stupid coming from your post.
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Who is death angel.... I read this whole thing and Ive been on this site since Sc2 beta and I have no clue or forgot who death angel was
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good stuff KR, well done!
we had a similar incident in the SEA scene recently, too.
always warms my heart to see filth like her get cleaned up!
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Well, thats one less fraud in this community.
Nice work, Kawaii.
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On September 25 2012 10:49 DeathAngel[ro] wrote: Hello everyone This is DeathAngel
1st : hats of to KawaiiRice , very smart and observant guy and nice job in studying all the stuff , remember playing you on both accounts on ladder , you being fateofseven on EU server
2nd : yea.. I'm a scumbag and I played on other ppl accounts , I also play on some smurfs too not only on my nick , just to try different strategies etc.
3rd : I am very sorry to everyone affected by this , I basically played on someone's else account , make it into GM .. wich seems ok , like a smurf for me..
but the effects were very bad it seems I am very sorry for this , but I played legit starcraft , not map hackign or
something .. I am interested in the competitive aspect of the game.. and I never got the chance to play in any showmatch on my own.. never got invited.. was amazed when I found out that there are so many ppl interested to see a girl play.. so I accepted to play.. wich is bad.. I am such a scumbag.. I should just refuse it..
I also hurt some ppl it seems , I just wanted to play some good matches of sc2 in wich seemed a friendly showmatch .. I just wanted to see if I am skilled enough to beat someone good in a showmatch .
What can I say.. I shouldn't done that.. I would also feel bad if someone would
come pretending to be someone else and beating me.. feels bad , but I had no
interest in scamming someone or put them to get coaching from veralynn. I just played on her account as a smurf of mine , and now I feel kind of dumb
hearing ppl paid coaching lessons.. I thought there was only free coaching cause
I would see free coaching all the time when I was looking at her stream , I am
pretty sure there must be some misunderstanding regarding this.
Feel sorry ppl were so naive , but that must be a lesson also , why would you
take lessons from a girl just because she is gm , and also , don't you see that
the coaching is not GM level ? or maybe the coaching was good and deserved the
money.. I have no ideea and I feel very sorry if the things were like this.
I should also play only my own account from now on , I am not interested in
scamming ppl for money or other stuff like that.. I am a legit player and I can
play and win showmatches against those players on my own , also I can coach on my
own and give good coaching and good advices , what I did was stupid and didn't
benefit me in any way .
I really feel sorry , I just wanted to play some good games , my intentions were
good.. but.. stuff happens.. such a sick life.. I trully feel very sorry for the guys that were upset to have lost to a ,,girl''
, you guys actually lost to me .
Also very sorry for my english. It's 5am and I am tired.
I am kind of a guy that sold a gun to a random guy on the street then realising the crime
PS . Never thrust women , they are evil.
Oh well, it seems this should be removed too: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Veralynn
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Wooo DeathAngel!
Major props for congratulating Kawaii, no sarcasm at all!(SERIOUSLY)
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