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VeraLynn; GM fraud - Page 19
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YoucriedWolf
Sweden1456 Posts
Nice KawaiiRice... Nice.. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:42 amazingxkcd wrote: ,I'm curious as to what prompted this detective work. girl beating progamers | ||
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HolydaKing
21253 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:44 nkr wrote: well what deathangel did is obviously not as bad as what veralynn did, making her seem to be something she's not but taking money to play for someone else is still pretty damn bad What he did is still pretty bad. Apparently he played for her in a female only tournament and other tournaments which had money in them. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
Slick scam though, could have gone unnoticed for a long time. Some of the arguments the OP made are weak, but some are very strong and undeniable, like the Romanian language error message. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:40 VidyaYuropa wrote: my sides, sometime VeraLynn's bubble had to pop. I'm coming home and suddenly VeraLynn is a fraud, couldnt actually care less for her. EDIT: Why would DeathAngel actually help her like that? Money. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:42 amazingxkcd wrote: ,I'm curious as to what prompted this detective work. xSplit settings, overlays, and typing without minimizing are more than enough to raise quite a bit of suspicion. If you stream a lot you don't constantly change things - especially something like overlays. Tons of small nuances are really noticable if you get in the habbit of doing them yourself, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like that. A fun way to think of it would be: Normal people can't see why card tricks often work, but a trained magician in the audience can almost always notice when deck swaps happen. Switching between two different streamers after watching each one individually for a while would make it blatant, at least from my prospective. | ||
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Doriboi
United States181 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:22 murphs wrote: As a representative of #starcraft.ie (the premier Irish esport organisation) I hereby declare VeraLynn suspended from our ranks pending a meeting of the Elder council as soon as possible. Also, I once again declare myself the best Irish SC2 player. murph Is the meeting at your local pub? | ||
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McDutch
Netherlands184 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:37 Poopi wrote: Does anyone know which level she really was? I mean if she was coaching with only mid/high master knowledge people would start to notice she is in fact not GM level? i want to know that 2  | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:28 algorithm0r wrote: Why is TL the place this shit has to go down? Haven't the relevant people at SixPool and Z33k already been contacted and everything has already been sorted out? Why does the witch hunt have to follow? TL: Bring back balance threads and ban drama threads! She has been scamming people with false skill level advertising, scamming sponsors of events by saying she plays show-matches etc whilst DeathAngel does the playing. I'd count both of these alone as fraudulent. | ||
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EliteSK
Korea (South)251 Posts
On September 25 2012 05:29 ZAiNs wrote: KawaiiRice: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-document(a).gif) VeraLynn:+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.court-records.net/animation/dee-break(a).gif) DeathAngel: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.court-records.net/animation/redd-breaks.gif) TL: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.court-records.net/animation/judge-surprised(b).gif) These Phoenix wright references. TOO GOOD! LOL On the actual topic, I haven't watched the VODs since it says they've been taken down. (If she has nothing to hide, prolly wouldn't take them down). Well formatted post and substantial evidence from multiple sources. The fact that SixPoolGaming and members of Z33ktv have vouched for him just adds to the fact. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23737 Posts
Not at a local, it'll occur on a pub right on the RoI/NI border as the inaugral all-Ireland council meeting | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:48 Grumbels wrote: If anyone remembers the account leveling semi-scandal some months ago, this incident kinda shows the mentality behind those leveling services and how it might not be a good idea to just shrug it off and say "progamers gotta eat". Bingo. This will keep happening as long as leveling services are written off as necessary evils. VeraLynn is done in this community, but DeathAngel will probably be allowed to continue competing because even though he helped cheat tournaments out of their money, people will defend him by victim-blaming others and declaring that everyone who wants to play Starcraft professionally deserves to have as much money that they want (regardless of if they earned it or have the talent), even if that includes cheating the system, and other people. | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1449 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:37 Poopi wrote: Does anyone know which level she really was? I mean if she was coaching with only mid/high master knowledge people would start to notice she is in fact not GM level? I think this is quite arguable. When you observe the game you can see many flaws in someones play which player doesent see. So you can advise a lot better player then urself ingame and that would help very much. Pro coaches arent better then actual players and yet, they can see someones mistakes. So mid-master would be quite enough to do some bqsic coaching. Not at others level, but decent, yes. | ||
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
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mathsucks
194 Posts
On September 25 2012 06:28 itsjustatank wrote: All I have to say is sullying the name of such a historically important and talented singer from the Second World War in the pursuit of esports money is really sad. Not to mention a 1980's formed death metal band. | ||
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Czarnodziej
Poland624 Posts
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