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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12935 Posts
September 24 2012 21:37 GMT
#341
Does anyone know which level she really was?
I mean if she was coaching with only mid/high master knowledge people would start to notice she is in fact not GM level?
WriterMaru
Bounce
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada25 Posts
September 24 2012 21:37 GMT
#342
Damn, that is some solid detective work by KawaiiRice, yet another reason to love him. I wish all accusations could be handled like this.
MMQC
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 21:39:28
September 24 2012 21:37 GMT
#343
I seriously thought everyone knew about this account/women being smurfed? I had a friend who told me about her and I was instantly skeptical of the whole situation, though I thanked him for the connection. After she talked to me via email for a possible coaching "highlight" or what have you on z33k and then dissapeared it reassured me that with no further contact between us my fishyness sensor was on target.

I won't claim to know who was playing on her account because I had no clue, but honestly, unless it's so incredibly fleshed out that a girl is actually playing on an account I take these sorts of things with a grain of salt. I'm glad Kawaii and friends had the determination to see this through and come up with solid evidence against people who are only set on trying to take advantage of loopholes in the scene. It honestly turns my stomach that some people who are "semi" unknown, yet so insanely good(QuanticState for example) don't get recognition in some areas they could possibly show up because others literally steal the opportunity unjustly. (this is an example, no idea if he has ever been in contact with SPG but you get the idea)

Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
September 24 2012 21:38 GMT
#344
It is actually sad that people have ethics that are this bad

What will happen to death angle, i guess he guilty of some sort too.
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
September 24 2012 21:38 GMT
#345
On September 25 2012 06:18 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 06:06 hegeo wrote:
I never understand all these childish reactions by people posting the same stupid comments again and again.

1. "Back to the pitchforks"/"witchhunt" etc. - The OP shows that says someone cheated to gain an advantage in the "real" business world. A elaborate kind of "Battlenet profile doping" if you will.


People who disagree with witch hunting believe that justice should be more civilized than step one being: Present evidence against suspect to the community to have them deal with him/her as mob mentality dictates. I agree with your other points but I think this is a stupid way to deal with these situations and the problem of e-sports drama is self perpetuating because of it.

Yes and I don't understand the rage at all, especially from our war-mongers in North-America.

People have a very asymmetric approach to justice.

User was warned for this post
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 21:39:01
September 24 2012 21:38 GMT
#346
On September 25 2012 06:28 algorithm0r wrote:
Why is TL the place this shit has to go down? Haven't the relevant people at SixPool and Z33k already been contacted and everything has already been sorted out? Why does the witch hunt have to follow?

TL: Bring back balance threads and ban drama threads!

You realize as a community stuff like this happens and it's better to expose it?

What is this sudden fascination with people calling everything a witch hunt? I'm starting to think people have no idea what a witch hunt means or what it even refers to.
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
September 24 2012 21:38 GMT
#347
Where is the popcorn when you need it!
Evaner
Profile Joined January 2011
Italy94 Posts
September 24 2012 21:39 GMT
#348
I wonder what Absolute Legends has to say about this, Deathangel is in fact still playing under their tag.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 24 2012 21:39 GMT
#349
On September 25 2012 06:36 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 06:34 Eventine wrote:
On September 25 2012 06:33 iamcaustic wrote:
On September 25 2012 06:28 algorithm0r wrote:
Why is TL the place this shit has to go down? Haven't the relevant people at SixPool and Z33k already been contacted and everything has already been sorted out? Why does the witch hunt have to follow?

TL: Bring back balance threads and ban drama threads!

It's a news-worthy item that affects the community quite heavily. Team Liquid is one of the biggest community sites, making it an ideal location to release information (to the point where many organizations will advertise on here). What else would you expect, really?


TL wants to be the white knight and ensure that any poor decisions will lead to the end of a career. Or as much of an end as is possible.

Except that this wasn't just a poor decision by her but a continous plan to make her more famous... I have no idea how long this has been going but it seems like quite a while.


4 months from may to now
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
September 24 2012 21:39 GMT
#350
On September 25 2012 06:39 Evaner wrote:
I wonder what Absolute Legends has to say about this, Deathangel is in fact still playing under their tag.


I noticed this too, he's listed on their website.
Team owner of team QTLing
VidyaYuropa
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
87 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 21:42:06
September 24 2012 21:40 GMT
#351
my sides, sometime VeraLynn's bubble had to pop.
I'm coming home and suddenly VeraLynn is a fraud, couldnt actually care less for her.
EDIT: Why would DeathAngel actually help her like that?
420 smoke a blunt
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
September 24 2012 21:41 GMT
#352
Brace yourselves, torches are coming.
HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
September 24 2012 21:42 GMT
#353
There was a post a few months back where a lot of people defended leveling services - "pros need money man they gotta do what they gotta do". This is what that leads to - a false representation not just on the ladder, but in community events and people who pay for coaching from a "Grandmaster" whose account was leveled.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 24 2012 21:42 GMT
#354
,I'm curious as to what prompted this detective work.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Forevabronze
Profile Joined April 2011
15 Posts
September 24 2012 21:42 GMT
#355
TL just made my night,/popcorn
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 24 2012 21:43 GMT
#356
I'm just glad she got caught! and that DeathAngel also gets a punishment.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
September 24 2012 21:43 GMT
#357
And off she went, lol.
youtube.com/spooderm4n | twitch.tv/spooderm4n | Random videos and games I feel like uploading
laoji
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom382 Posts
September 24 2012 21:44 GMT
#358
If we really want Esports to become large and legitimate then this is exactly what we need to be cracking down on. Good job to all those who put the time into this.
Affection is responsible for nine-tenths of whatever solid and durable happiness there is in our lives.- C. S. Lewis
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
September 24 2012 21:44 GMT
#359
well what deathangel did is obviously not as bad as what veralynn did, making her seem to be something she's not


but taking money to play for someone else is still pretty damn bad
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 21:46:02
September 24 2012 21:44 GMT
#360
On September 25 2012 06:28 algorithm0r wrote:
Why is TL the place this shit has to go down? Haven't the relevant people at SixPool and Z33k already been contacted and everything has already been sorted out? Why does the witch hunt have to follow?

TL: Bring back balance threads and ban drama threads!

1: because people would have asked what happened with her anyway.
2: because it was the community that was abused in the first place (coaching lessons, showmatchs and stuff)
3: because stuff like this needs to be known to discourage this kind of behaviors.
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