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MetalGear
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia47 Posts
September 08 2012 03:28 GMT
#321
Wow amazing and i had no idea since i have been living under a rock these past few weeks.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2012 03:29 GMT
#322
On September 08 2012 12:24 LiLSighKoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.

Liquid Haypro
Liquid Nony
Liquid TLO

if it wasnt for Ret and there Koreans TL wouldnt be doing good at all at least EG is trying to invest in foreigners instead of jsut buying Koreans
ChaiNs
Profile Joined June 2012
57 Posts
September 08 2012 03:31 GMT
#323
Really hoping he performs in EG.

I mean I love IdrA, HuK, and to a lesser extent ThorZaIN but... It's been a while since I've seen them landing deep in tournaments.
Polt | GuMiho | Ryung | PartinG | Genius | Symbol | soO
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
September 08 2012 03:31 GMT
#324
Evil Geniuses is what Real Madrid is to football.
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#325
On September 08 2012 12:31 ChaiNs wrote:
Really hoping he performs in EG.

I mean I love IdrA, HuK, and to a lesser extent ThorZaIN but... It's been a while since I've seen them landing deep in tournaments.

last MLG where IdrA got deep into WCS and had a good MLG run and Thorzain winning WCS sweden doesnt count?
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
September 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#326
On September 08 2012 12:29 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:24 LiLSighKoh wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.

Liquid Haypro
Liquid Nony
Liquid TLO

if it wasnt for Ret and there Koreans TL wouldnt be doing good at all at least EG is trying to invest in foreigners instead of jsut buying Koreans


No, they are buying foreigners instead of investing in koreans.
StasisTV
Profile Joined May 2011
United States92 Posts
September 08 2012 03:34 GMT
#327
if he 'worked' 40 hours a week he's getting paid 50.00 an hour.. I wish some of that could go to the writers/hardworking 'behind the scenes' people in the community.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 08 2012 03:34 GMT
#328
finally. haha anyone surprised? grats to stephano and EG
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TL+ Member
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
September 08 2012 03:34 GMT
#329
On September 08 2012 12:29 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:24 LiLSighKoh wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.

Liquid Haypro
Liquid Nony
Liquid TLO

if it wasnt for Ret and there Koreans TL wouldnt be doing good at all at least EG is trying to invest in foreigners instead of jsut buying Koreans


Agreed that there are slumping Liquid players, but seriously? EG has PuMa and JYP, who last I checked, were Korean.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
September 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#330
On September 08 2012 12:29 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:24 LiLSighKoh wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.

Liquid Haypro
Liquid Nony
Liquid TLO

if it wasnt for Ret and there Koreans TL wouldnt be doing good at all at least EG is trying to invest in foreigners instead of jsut buying Koreans

i think huk is only example of "eg curse" but both teams have plenty of players who have not performed in a very long time. Most notably Huk, Incontrol, Machine, Lzgamer on eg. And haypro, tyler, jinro(now retired), tlo for liquid. Its just EG gets much more attention so it seems like an "curse" for eg
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
September 08 2012 03:37 GMT
#331
On September 08 2012 12:34 StasisTV wrote:
if he 'worked' 40 hours a week he's getting paid 50.00 an hour.. I wish some of that could go to the writers/hardworking 'behind the scenes' people in the community.

no problem at all with seeing the best foreigner get paid a decent wage, if you want this thing to grow player salary is part of that
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 03:37:49
September 08 2012 03:37 GMT
#332
On September 08 2012 12:35 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:29 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:24 LiLSighKoh wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.

Liquid Haypro
Liquid Nony
Liquid TLO

if it wasnt for Ret and there Koreans TL wouldnt be doing good at all at least EG is trying to invest in foreigners instead of jsut buying Koreans

i think huk is only example of "eg curse" but both teams have plenty of players who have not performed in a very long time. Most notably Huk, Incontrol, Machine, Lzgamer on eg. And haypro, tyler, jinro(now retired), tlo for liquid. Its just EG gets much more attention so it seems like an "curse" for eg


Also Taeja is still more dominant than any of the EG players Korean or otherwise.

Poor Zenio, no one even remembers he is on Liquid anymore T-T
"En taro adun, Executor."
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2012 03:37 GMT
#333
On September 08 2012 12:34 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:29 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:24 LiLSighKoh wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.

Liquid Haypro
Liquid Nony
Liquid TLO

if it wasnt for Ret and there Koreans TL wouldnt be doing good at all at least EG is trying to invest in foreigners instead of jsut buying Koreans


Agreed that there are slumping Liquid players, but seriously? EG has PuMa and JYP, who last I checked, were Korean.

Liquid has Hero and Zenio and Taeja who are also pretty mcuh the only liquid palyers you hear about recently EG hypes its foreigners and recruits more, Liquid hypes its Koreans and aims for more
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2012 03:38 GMT
#334
On September 08 2012 12:34 StasisTV wrote:
if he 'worked' 40 hours a week he's getting paid 50.00 an hour.. I wish some of that could go to the writers/hardworking 'behind the scenes' people in the community.

he probably does at least 70 hours a week and thats probably underestimating
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
September 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#335
On September 08 2012 11:36 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 11:34 SeraKuDA wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:31 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:27 SeraKuDA wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:24 emythrel wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:08 SeraKuDA wrote:
Hmmm, I thought he would be making more money. Still a very nice salary though. This means HuK's rumoured "six figure" salary is false.


well since 8k per month works out to 96k per year its not really hard to imagine that huk made 9k per month which would bring him over the 100k line and thus a 6 figure salary. Because a 6 figure salary means that in a year you earn over 100k, not per month.


I realize that. What I'm saying is that Stephano is (most likely) the highest paid player on EG right now, and therefore HuK isn't making six figures.

tahts a leap big enough to cross the atlantic

if anyone is making the biggest salary its IdrA since he has the biggest fan following (probably) of any pro, aside from this month has always had the msot popular stream (or a very very close second) was the only foreiner still palying to survive kespa and has the second best GSL results for any foreigner

just looking at who they can make the most money out of its definently IdrA, even his kingston commercials is everyones favourite


There's no way idra is making more than stephano.

IdrA brings there sponsors money

Stephano throws up and gets put in a drunk tank

whos the better investment?
no matter how you look at it sponsors would prefer to give IdrA money over stephano


Stephano wins tournaments, Idra doesn't. I'd invest in the guy who wins shit over the guy who doesn't every single time. You certainly don't get football teams signing players for 40million dollars saying "hmm, this guy was caught fucking his bast mates girlfriend, lets hire the guy whos not as good but didn't fuck his best friends girlfriend".

Business doesn't work like that. When you are the best, you can get away with pretty much anything you like. If destiny were the best foreigner, his sponsors would "look the other way" when he says or does something stupid.... but since he isn't the best he doesn't get away with it. When stephano got put in the drunk tank, did his team get an e-mail spam thwon at them to drop him from the team? hell no. Everyone laughed about how stupid Stephano looked and then MOVED on because he is the best and who cares if he likes to get drunk... hes young, thats what young people do.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
September 08 2012 03:46 GMT
#336
Congrats to both EG and Stephano.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 08 2012 03:46 GMT
#337
On September 08 2012 12:29 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:24 LiLSighKoh wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.

Liquid Haypro
Liquid Nony
Liquid TLO

if it wasnt for Ret and there Koreans TL wouldnt be doing good at all at least EG is trying to invest in foreigners instead of jsut buying Koreans


"if it wasn't for half the players on TL the team wouldn't be doing good!"
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2012 03:46 GMT
#338
On September 08 2012 12:44 emythrel wrote:
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On September 08 2012 11:36 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:34 SeraKuDA wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:31 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:27 SeraKuDA wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:24 emythrel wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:08 SeraKuDA wrote:
Hmmm, I thought he would be making more money. Still a very nice salary though. This means HuK's rumoured "six figure" salary is false.


well since 8k per month works out to 96k per year its not really hard to imagine that huk made 9k per month which would bring him over the 100k line and thus a 6 figure salary. Because a 6 figure salary means that in a year you earn over 100k, not per month.


I realize that. What I'm saying is that Stephano is (most likely) the highest paid player on EG right now, and therefore HuK isn't making six figures.

tahts a leap big enough to cross the atlantic

if anyone is making the biggest salary its IdrA since he has the biggest fan following (probably) of any pro, aside from this month has always had the msot popular stream (or a very very close second) was the only foreiner still palying to survive kespa and has the second best GSL results for any foreigner

just looking at who they can make the most money out of its definently IdrA, even his kingston commercials is everyones favourite


There's no way idra is making more than stephano.

IdrA brings there sponsors money

Stephano throws up and gets put in a drunk tank

whos the better investment?
no matter how you look at it sponsors would prefer to give IdrA money over stephano


Stephano wins tournaments, Idra doesn't. I'd invest in the guy who wins shit over the guy who doesn't every single time. You certainly don't get football teams signing players for 40million dollars saying "hmm, this guy was caught fucking his bast mates girlfriend, lets hire the guy whos not as good but didn't fuck his best friends girlfriend".

Business doesn't work like that. When you are the best, you can get away with pretty much anything you like. If destiny were the best foreigner, his sponsors would "look the other way" when he says or does something stupid.... but since he isn't the best he doesn't get away with it. When stephano got put in the drunk tank, did his team get an e-mail spam thwon at them to drop him from the team? hell no. Everyone laughed about how stupid Stephano looked and then MOVED on because he is the best and who cares if he likes to get drunk... hes young, thats what young people do.

IdrA palces well at tournaments
he plugs the sponsors
he has more fans then stephano
hes got the more popular stream
he has more presence
hes on shows
he casts

IdrA is far more marketable then Stephano he is a much much bigger asset then stephano
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
September 08 2012 03:48 GMT
#339
On September 08 2012 12:29 Forikorder wrote:
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On September 08 2012 12:24 LiLSighKoh wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.

Liquid Haypro
Liquid Nony
Liquid TLO

if it wasnt for Ret and there Koreans TL wouldnt be doing good at all at least EG is trying to invest in foreigners instead of jsut buying Koreans

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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 08 2012 03:48 GMT
#340
On September 08 2012 12:46 Forikorder wrote:
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On September 08 2012 12:44 emythrel wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:36 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:34 SeraKuDA wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:31 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:27 SeraKuDA wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:24 emythrel wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:08 SeraKuDA wrote:
Hmmm, I thought he would be making more money. Still a very nice salary though. This means HuK's rumoured "six figure" salary is false.


well since 8k per month works out to 96k per year its not really hard to imagine that huk made 9k per month which would bring him over the 100k line and thus a 6 figure salary. Because a 6 figure salary means that in a year you earn over 100k, not per month.


I realize that. What I'm saying is that Stephano is (most likely) the highest paid player on EG right now, and therefore HuK isn't making six figures.

tahts a leap big enough to cross the atlantic

if anyone is making the biggest salary its IdrA since he has the biggest fan following (probably) of any pro, aside from this month has always had the msot popular stream (or a very very close second) was the only foreiner still palying to survive kespa and has the second best GSL results for any foreigner

just looking at who they can make the most money out of its definently IdrA, even his kingston commercials is everyones favourite


There's no way idra is making more than stephano.

IdrA brings there sponsors money

Stephano throws up and gets put in a drunk tank

whos the better investment?
no matter how you look at it sponsors would prefer to give IdrA money over stephano


Stephano wins tournaments, Idra doesn't. I'd invest in the guy who wins shit over the guy who doesn't every single time. You certainly don't get football teams signing players for 40million dollars saying "hmm, this guy was caught fucking his bast mates girlfriend, lets hire the guy whos not as good but didn't fuck his best friends girlfriend".

Business doesn't work like that. When you are the best, you can get away with pretty much anything you like. If destiny were the best foreigner, his sponsors would "look the other way" when he says or does something stupid.... but since he isn't the best he doesn't get away with it. When stephano got put in the drunk tank, did his team get an e-mail spam thwon at them to drop him from the team? hell no. Everyone laughed about how stupid Stephano looked and then MOVED on because he is the best and who cares if he likes to get drunk... hes young, thats what young people do.

IdrA palces well at tournaments
he plugs the sponsors
he has more fans then stephano
hes got the more popular stream
he has more presence
hes on shows
he casts

IdrA is far more marketable then Stephano he is a much much bigger asset then stephano


Idra has won many tournaments as well lol. Obviously not this year but towards the end of 2011 he won 3 big ones I hope he can win again soon ^_^.
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