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dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
September 08 2012 03:49 GMT
#341
you don't say
i love you
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2012 03:50 GMT
#342
On September 08 2012 12:48 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:29 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:24 LiLSighKoh wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.

Liquid Haypro
Liquid Nony
Liquid TLO

if it wasnt for Ret and there Koreans TL wouldnt be doing good at all at least EG is trying to invest in foreigners instead of jsut buying Koreans

PUMA

i dont understand why your mentioning puma
theBlues
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
El Salvador638 Posts
September 08 2012 03:50 GMT
#343
On September 08 2012 09:16 Stutters695 wrote:
this was like watching Jerry and Elaine in Seinfeld. If close their end up together, it was just a matter of time.


NOoooo I did not know this!

gratz to stephano, he will be able to put himself through college pretty handily with the earnings he is making...
Change a vote, and change the world
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
September 08 2012 03:52 GMT
#344
FYI If you watch the last VOD of Live on Three, Scoots theorizes "$4000/month" to be a very large salary for a ProGamer:

http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/331309076

Jump to 16:15 Scoots says "maybe he wanted $4000 a month."

Hmmmmmmmmm.........
"En taro adun, Executor."
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
September 08 2012 03:53 GMT
#345
On September 08 2012 12:46 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:44 emythrel wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:36 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:34 SeraKuDA wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:31 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:27 SeraKuDA wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:24 emythrel wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:08 SeraKuDA wrote:
Hmmm, I thought he would be making more money. Still a very nice salary though. This means HuK's rumoured "six figure" salary is false.


well since 8k per month works out to 96k per year its not really hard to imagine that huk made 9k per month which would bring him over the 100k line and thus a 6 figure salary. Because a 6 figure salary means that in a year you earn over 100k, not per month.


I realize that. What I'm saying is that Stephano is (most likely) the highest paid player on EG right now, and therefore HuK isn't making six figures.

tahts a leap big enough to cross the atlantic

if anyone is making the biggest salary its IdrA since he has the biggest fan following (probably) of any pro, aside from this month has always had the msot popular stream (or a very very close second) was the only foreiner still palying to survive kespa and has the second best GSL results for any foreigner

just looking at who they can make the most money out of its definently IdrA, even his kingston commercials is everyones favourite


There's no way idra is making more than stephano.

IdrA brings there sponsors money

Stephano throws up and gets put in a drunk tank

whos the better investment?
no matter how you look at it sponsors would prefer to give IdrA money over stephano


Stephano wins tournaments, Idra doesn't. I'd invest in the guy who wins shit over the guy who doesn't every single time. You certainly don't get football teams signing players for 40million dollars saying "hmm, this guy was caught fucking his bast mates girlfriend, lets hire the guy whos not as good but didn't fuck his best friends girlfriend".

Business doesn't work like that. When you are the best, you can get away with pretty much anything you like. If destiny were the best foreigner, his sponsors would "look the other way" when he says or does something stupid.... but since he isn't the best he doesn't get away with it. When stephano got put in the drunk tank, did his team get an e-mail spam thwon at them to drop him from the team? hell no. Everyone laughed about how stupid Stephano looked and then MOVED on because he is the best and who cares if he likes to get drunk... hes young, thats what young people do.

IdrA palces well at tournaments
he plugs the sponsors
he has more fans then stephano
hes got the more popular stream
he has more presence
hes on shows
he casts

IdrA is far more marketable then Stephano he is a much much bigger asset then stephano


And when Stephano wins 3 or 4 big LANS and gets to tout all those sponsors after winning the finals, Idra looks like the teaboy who spends more time appeasing fans than winning tournaments. Also I disagree that he has more fans, he has more fanbois i'm sure but not more fans. You can do all the PR you like but winning is what makes money and is the best PR you can get. You don't sign Messi for 40million because he is going to plug your team sponsors, you buy him because he will win you games and trophies and be seen on camera wearing your team shirt with your sponsors on it.

Stephano goes deep in pretty much every tourney he enters and get featured on stream nearly every game he plays, that means way more opportunities for him to plug sponsors to the most people than the guys who go out early and then jump on SotG or ItG to talk about said tournaments. Stephano is the biggest assett because he has the potential to win the most, there is nothing more to it.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
September 08 2012 03:53 GMT
#346
yeah he could pay tuition up to a phd with all that moneyz
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
September 08 2012 03:54 GMT
#347
I love it how idra was like 'Stephano's style is just gimmicky and it will get figured out soon and he wont win anything anymore', months later Stephano's counting stacks getting better salary in EG than idra. hihihi
oh, hai
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
September 08 2012 03:54 GMT
#348
DAT STEPHANO! EG is gonna do well now, what a sick sick roster Oo;;
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
September 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#349
Stephano makes it all look so easy.

Now accept that code S invite you wuss!!!
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#350
On September 08 2012 12:54 HornyHerring wrote:
I love it how idra was like 'Stephano's style is just gimmicky and it will get figured out soon and he wont win anything anymore', months later Stephano's counting stacks getting better salary in EG than idra. hihihi

so stephanos unknown salary (if he has signed with EG) is larger then IdrAs unknown salary?
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
September 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#351
On September 08 2012 12:56 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:54 HornyHerring wrote:
I love it how idra was like 'Stephano's style is just gimmicky and it will get figured out soon and he wont win anything anymore', months later Stephano's counting stacks getting better salary in EG than idra. hihihi

so stephanos unknown salary (if he has signed with EG) is larger then IdrAs unknown salary?

Read the thread.
oh, hai
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 03:59:11
September 08 2012 03:59 GMT
#352
I have changed my mind, I think ESFI World's source is Slasher.
"En taro adun, Executor."
freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
September 08 2012 03:59 GMT
#353
jeez... he's going to be rolling after a one year contract.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
September 08 2012 04:02 GMT
#354
I think we're all getting off track here... bottom line, we are all super jelly. And EG may have gained a few ten thousand new followers.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
September 08 2012 04:07 GMT
#355
On September 08 2012 13:02 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I think we're all getting off track here... bottom line, we are all super jelly. And EG may have gained a few ten thousand new followers.


OMG I just pictured the Stephano Fans who are also EG Haters, they are NOT having a fun time right now LOLOL!
"En taro adun, Executor."
ChaiNs
Profile Joined June 2012
57 Posts
September 08 2012 04:08 GMT
#356
On September 08 2012 12:32 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:31 ChaiNs wrote:
Really hoping he performs in EG.

I mean I love IdrA, HuK, and to a lesser extent ThorZaIN but... It's been a while since I've seen them landing deep in tournaments.

last MLG where IdrA got deep into WCS and had a good MLG run and Thorzain winning WCS sweden doesnt count?


Thank you, I'm glad you proved me wrong. I didn't know about ThorZaIN in WCS sweden xP
Polt | GuMiho | Ryung | PartinG | Genius | Symbol | soO
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
September 08 2012 04:08 GMT
#357
On September 08 2012 12:57 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:56 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:54 HornyHerring wrote:
I love it how idra was like 'Stephano's style is just gimmicky and it will get figured out soon and he wont win anything anymore', months later Stephano's counting stacks getting better salary in EG than idra. hihihi

so stephanos unknown salary (if he has signed with EG) is larger then IdrAs unknown salary?

Read the thread.

>implying everything in this thread is 100% truth and not based on rumors
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
marcelluspye
Profile Joined August 2011
United States155 Posts
September 08 2012 04:14 GMT
#358
Hell, it's about time...
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 08 2012 04:14 GMT
#359
On September 08 2012 09:29 Msr wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks 100k salary is low? For a video game that is pretty solid I guess, hope he doesn't perform worse after joining like most of the other players seemed to have done.


Thinly veiled bragging anonymously on the Internet about ones own salary or completely clueless? You decide! Yes, 100k salary would make you a top earner in the US.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 04:15:13
September 08 2012 04:15 GMT
#360
Jesus, you could hire most Kespa pros for that amount of money.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
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