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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 08 2012 03:07 GMT
#301
BIGGEST SURPRISE

im fuckign impressed with EG tho that they have so much money
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44336 Posts
September 08 2012 03:08 GMT
#302
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.


Well there haven't been that many other big tournaments in the past six months, and these guys have also done decently well throughout their EG careers (certainly about as well as most other players on foreigner teams/ outside of Korea), even winning some of the very biggest tournaments (and otherwise placing well in them). It's just kind of annoying when people generalize and say that EG players- as a golden rule- go from hero to zero. Players have their ups and downs.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
damod
Profile Joined March 2011
1106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 03:11:19
September 08 2012 03:09 GMT
#303
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?
EGHuK | EGJaeDong | EGMachine | EGiNcontroL | EGDemusliM | EGStephano <3
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 03:17:41
September 08 2012 03:13 GMT
#304
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret



This might sound strange to you, but I don't think many foreigners have slumped. In fact, I would say not one of Idra, WhiteRa, Nony, Huk or Ret have slumped. Once in a while a player is tired at a tournament or doesn't practice for a few weeks before, but I don't think that's what you mean by a slump.

Taking WhiteRa for example, he's much, much better than he was when he was competing at a global level a year and a half ago. If he "regained old form," he'd only get worse. He can't compete with the best players in the world, and the best players in the world attend most of the big tournaments in high numbers.

It's no coincidence that all foreigners start "slumping" when more and more Koreans come to their tournaments. Most foreigners aren't improving as fast as Koreans. Maybe the reason they could beat them before and not now is because the fabled "infrastructure" is kicking in.
Niten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States598 Posts
September 08 2012 03:13 GMT
#305
I bet its over $8k. I bet its actually over $100,000 / year.
Korra: "Ok, I know that I'm not good at emotions, but that's what Tenzin's gonna teach me, right? He's gonna teach me to be happy and gentle and spiritual, and the rest of that bullsh**t."
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
September 08 2012 03:14 GMT
#306
Glad this is really awesome for EG. Always been a fan of EG for Brood War glad to see EG getting this ace player.
Master Chief
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 08 2012 03:14 GMT
#307
wow 8k per month holy
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Mzimzim
Profile Joined June 2011
United States221 Posts
September 08 2012 03:16 GMT
#308
I don't think anyone saw this coming
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
September 08 2012 03:16 GMT
#309
I think everyone new he would sign with EG eventually. That is a really good salary to be getting.
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
M4nkind
Profile Joined December 2011
Lithuania178 Posts
September 08 2012 03:16 GMT
#310
I remember one epic commercial:

"money money money, everywhere people look at us as if we were money. But there is one place which accepts me for human - the bank of <insert bank name here>"


Wonder how EG is going to help him improve or practice? He is bettern than any EG player. How can you improve if you practice vs weaker opponents? I see him on stream playing vs demuslim, machine... thats not direction for improvement. He is on a level where he should practice vs strong koreans to improve fruther.
Read my epic book, people: http://www.wattpad.com/story/23976849-the-business-of-time-travel
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
September 08 2012 03:18 GMT
#311
Glad to see we are getting an idea of what some professionals are making. Wish it wasn't needed to be treated as some type of secret.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
September 08 2012 03:19 GMT
#312
Stephano is ballin out of control...100k salary + tournament winnings and streaming.... this guy is just ballin. No other word to describe him, maybe amazingly ballin. God bless and gl to stephano~
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
September 08 2012 03:19 GMT
#313
daamn~ nice pick up, everyone kind of saw it coming haha only if they were still teamed with SlayerS!
Mmm, what to watch.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2012 03:20 GMT
#314
On September 08 2012 12:16 M4nkind wrote:
I remember one epic commercial:

"money money money, everywhere people look at us as if we were money. But there is one place which accepts me for human - the bank of <insert bank name here>"


Wonder how EG is going to help him improve or practice? He is bettern than any EG player. How can you improve if you practice vs weaker opponents? I see him on stream playing vs demuslim, machine... thats not direction for improvement. He is on a level where he should practice vs strong koreans to improve fruther.

if what you jsut said was true at all then pros wouldnt ladder on anything but Korea

unless your massivley ahead of someone in skill its worthwhile practice
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
September 08 2012 03:21 GMT
#315
Took me a while to get over the shock.

EG is getting pretty stacked.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44336 Posts
September 08 2012 03:21 GMT
#316
On September 08 2012 12:13 Truenappa wrote:
I bet its over $8k. I bet its actually over $100,000 / year.


I bet he makes eight trillion dollars a week.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
September 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#317
Well everyone expected this I think.

When it says the value of the deal is 8000 per month, does this mean his salary/wage? So he gets $8000 per month?

If so, that is HUGE
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
September 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#318
On September 08 2012 12:09 damod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:05 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 12:01 -_- wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:43 heaven- wrote:
does this mean stephano will never do well in a tournament ever again ? oh noes the EG curse


...This fallacy kind of ticks me off.

This was posted in the previous ???Stephano to EG??? thread a few weeks ago:

EG's placements in the top 10 of tournaments over the past 6 months, all players part of the team.

HuK: 9th 05-27-2012 Red Bull Battlegrounds, 4th 03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship, 3rd 02-26-2012 MLG Winter Arena

Puma: 3rd 02-25-2012 Assembly Winter, 2nd 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 6th 06-10-2012 MLG Spring Championship

Thorzain: 1st 07-28-2012 WCS Sweden

Idra: 4th 06-10-2012 WCS USA

DeMuslim: 2nd 07-01-2012 WCS UK, 2nd 08-19-2012 Samsung European Encounter

JYP: 5th 03-10-2012 IEM 6 World Championship, 4th 03-19-2012 Red Bull LAN Orlando 2012, 10th03-25-2012 MLG Winter Championship

And this is *just* the past six months, and *just* the big tournaments :-)


I think it's fair to say that players have not performed on EG as well as they did before they were on EG.

As for the tournament results you cite, you have to consider that EG sends nearly all their players to every big tournament. More opportunity means a better chance to get a good result. Especially when you take into account seeding. Also, speaking frankly, WCS USA, WCS UK, Samsung European Encounter weren't big tournaments.

I don't think there's a curse. I just think Koreans have been playing in more tournaments. Stephano can compete with the Koreans, so I don't think we'll see a drop with him.

name a single foreigner that never slumps

a single one

and dont say stephano since hes been around for not that long, a veteran like IdrA and White Ra and nony and HuK and Ret

Cant forget Jinro, Who reached GSL Code S Ro4 TWICE, was considered the best foreigner at the time and where he is now ?
oh yeah, he retierd, winning almost nothing the past six month before he did.

Liquid Curse anyone ?

That's only one player.
"Want some? Go get some!"
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 08 2012 03:24 GMT
#319
On September 08 2012 11:06 KeyHunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 10:59 Forikorder wrote:
On September 08 2012 10:56 KeyHunt wrote:
On September 08 2012 08:52 Xayvier wrote:
96k salary + tournament earnings + stream, not bad at all.


Just to pose a question (and I have no idea; but just a question) but think about it...maybe it ISN'T + earnings, steam revenue, etc. Just a thought. It's not unheard of by any means to give a player salary and everything else the team keeps. Just a thought .

no way the team can touch his stream revenue nor do they ahve any reason to plus its bad PR if a palyer comes out and saids EG steals there stream money

EG has tons of big hitting sponsors, they dont have to take a cut from the palyers the only teams that take a cut are the korean teams that need it to stay afloat


The kid is getting 100K a year and you think the community would destroy EG if they heard they take his stream money? Either way, I assure you they are taking something. It is NOT just Korean teams that take money from players; at least percentages.

Oh boy... you are severely misinformed.
MadNote
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lesotho75 Posts
September 08 2012 03:27 GMT
#320
On September 08 2012 12:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 12:13 Truenappa wrote:
I bet its over $8k. I bet its actually over $100,000 / year.


I bet he makes eight trillion dollars a week.


Thank you DarkPlasmaBall. I don't post often, but you made me legitimately laugh out loud. Thank you.

And congrats to Stephano!! Hopefully he can teach the rest of EG the secrets of Z so they can own it up! Goooooo foreigners!
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