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On September 04 2012 23:11 CrazyBirdman wrote:HerO with the best practice partners as usual. Recently he repeatedly said that he does not feel confident in that match-up. Losses to players like Sort-Of (he is good but HerO should beat him) and close series against players like Suppy showed that too. But wishing for Protosses.. he wants to kill me... these PvPs at MLG almost gave me heart attacks. And thanks for the translation.
I find this interesting. Hero completely crushes Code S zergs while having trouble with EU/NA zergs. Mana comes to Korea and says that he has an easier time in PvZ, IIRC because he feels that EU zergs have better late game (sorry if I'm putting words in his mouth, I don't remember exactly what he said), while being owned on ladder by terrans. Korean terrans have to pull out all the stops to win against zergs in international tournaments and MC is knocked out of IEM 0-3 by Nerchio, a matchup where MC has a 69.36% win rate internationally.
Is this one of the few times where foreigners are ahead in the metagame? Do Korean zergs have something to learn from these foreigners? Please don't take this as a balance jab or something like that. I'm genuinely curious, and I'm not good enough to analyse the more subtle points of the metagame.
Thanks for the translations by the way, and best of luck to Hero  I'm glad to see him feeling more comfortable in PvP, and it has looked better lately!
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On September 05 2012 05:32 Vaftrudner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 23:11 CrazyBirdman wrote:HerO with the best practice partners as usual. On September 04 2012 23:05 Nahsom wrote:
Hero doesnt want any Zergs? LOL Recently he repeatedly said that he does not feel confident in that match-up. Losses to players like Sort-Of (he is good but HerO should beat him) and close series against players like Suppy showed that too. But wishing for Protosses.. he wants to kill me... these PvPs at MLG almost gave me heart attacks. And thanks for the translation. I find this interesting. Hero completely crushes Code S zergs while having trouble with EU/NA zergs. Mana comes to Korea and says that he has an easier time in PvZ, IIRC because he feels that EU zergs have better late game (sorry if I'm putting words in his mouth, I don't remember exactly what he said), while being owned on ladder by terrans. Korean terrans have to pull out all the stops to win against zergs in international tournaments and MC is knocked out of IEM 0-3 by Nerchio, a matchup where MC has a 69.36% win rate internationally. Is this one of the few times where foreigners are ahead in the metagame? Do Korean zergs have something to learn from these foreigners? Please don't take this as a balance jab or something like that. I'm genuinely curious, and I'm not good enough to analyse the more subtle points of the metagame. Thanks for the translations by the way, and best of luck to Hero I'm glad to see him feeling more comfortable in PvP, and it has looked better lately!
It's definitely different metagames for sure. Foreign Zergs tech up to Hive much quicker while Korean Zergs delay their Hivetech for much later.
Personally, I feel going Hive tech quicker is a better playstyle against Protoss and I would love to see Symbol or DRG adapt that playstyle.
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Thanks for the translations.
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On September 05 2012 05:32 Vaftrudner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 23:11 CrazyBirdman wrote:HerO with the best practice partners as usual. On September 04 2012 23:05 Nahsom wrote:
Hero doesnt want any Zergs? LOL Recently he repeatedly said that he does not feel confident in that match-up. Losses to players like Sort-Of (he is good but HerO should beat him) and close series against players like Suppy showed that too. But wishing for Protosses.. he wants to kill me... these PvPs at MLG almost gave me heart attacks. And thanks for the translation. I find this interesting. Hero completely crushes Code S zergs while having trouble with EU/NA zergs. Mana comes to Korea and says that he has an easier time in PvZ, IIRC because he feels that EU zergs have better late game (sorry if I'm putting words in his mouth, I don't remember exactly what he said), while being owned on ladder by terrans. Korean terrans have to pull out all the stops to win against zergs in international tournaments and MC is knocked out of IEM 0-3 by Nerchio, a matchup where MC has a 69.36% win rate internationally. Is this one of the few times where foreigners are ahead in the metagame? Do Korean zergs have something to learn from these foreigners? Please don't take this as a balance jab or something like that. I'm genuinely curious, and I'm not good enough to analyse the more subtle points of the metagame. Thanks for the translations by the way, and best of luck to Hero I'm glad to see him feeling more comfortable in PvP, and it has looked better lately!
I noticed that Korean Zergs prefer to stick with Lair tech for much longer, while foreign Zergs will almost always go for that 11-14 minute Hive to rush to Brood Lords. HerO probably does better against Korean Zergs because he plays against them more on ladder and practice, while he probably rarely practices on NA/EU ladder and with foreigners.
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The one and only translates as he reads, StoryWriter.
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great games all around.. really fun.
you know, I love my choice of the yearly GSTL but.. really miss the tastosis casts.. haha.. guess I should get both next time.. lol
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"I think that'll be a bit difficult. ZvP is so hard these days. I fear Protosses on ladder. Maybe, once I figure out ZvP, I can do it. " -TSL Symbol
Yay i thought I was alone in fearing Protoss.
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EPT
