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giant post ahoy
looking at this from the outside, a lot of people can assume destiny had some weird scandalous fling with some random bitch, she got back at him and now he's paying for it and responding in all the wrong ways. but looking deeper into it, i sort of find it hard to believe that what we're seeing is the end of everything. i think there's a lot of hurt and bitterness and personal bullshit mixed into this that no one is considering because everyone's getting too masturbatory about the possibility of destiny being a huge dick.
we'll probably (hopefully) never know any of the details on whatever personal issues are behind this, but we can deduce this much: bluetea had all of destiny's passwords (among other obvious things) for a reason. and if she had those passwords, it is very likely that she had his skype as well. considering this, it's clear that she wasn't just some random fangirl that he decided to post nudes of. he seemed to act like the pics WERE just of some random fan when he sent them to his friends, and it makes destiny look really slimy and all, but we don't actually know why. who knows, maybe he didn't disclose who she was to protect her? maybe he'd had some domestic issues with her and he was just blowing off steam by dicking around with his ROOT bros? there are so many factors that go into this, yet so many ways to look at this that just make destiny look bad.
overall, when i met destiny at MLG providence, i honestly thought he was the coolest and friendliest american player i'd encountered. he signed autographs for everyone who asked. he took the time to leave a funny voicemail for my friend, a big fan of his, between some games he was playing. he hung out with all of his extremely giddy fans and didn't act like he was above any "civilians". i'd like to believe he isn't the asshole he's been made out to be here, that he's just caught up in a plethora of complicated issues with a bitter ex-girlfriend, and that he's just responding the way he's responding out of anger and embarrassment. no matter how you slice this, it's embarrassing for destiny, especially when you consider how boorish this community is about shit like this.
all things considered, i don't even know if it's right of us to blame him for his response, because we don't know what provoked that either. the one thing i think we can all be sure of is that the things we saw today from this explosion of drama are things that the public should never have seen, and both destiny and bluetea are responsible for that. but i really do sympathize with destiny, because regardless of who's right or wrong, the man had his shit hijacked and his wang posted pretty much everywhere. he said some dumb shit and did some dumb shit, but he never posted any bluetea nudes publicly. nothing bad happened to bluetea in all of this. in the end, his spot on a team is compromised and his integrity is more in question than ever before, while bluetea laughs it up. she won. i genuinely don't have the heart to blame destiny for wanting to bite back with a few idle threats.
i suppose it's good that catz ballsed up and showed that he can draw the line on things like this and not defend people in his team just for being his buddy (especially considering destiny isn't the only dude on ROOT with a somewhat checkered history), but i wish it had been waited on a bit, when things blew over or were at least better clarified. whether you think destiny's a dick, a victim of his own bad karma or just a regular guy being overkill punished for some bad decisions, i think we should all agree not to play god here and act like it's any of our places to judge him this brutally.
tl;dr: cmon guys.
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On August 30 2012 10:44 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 10:42 Khang wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 Dundron2000 wrote:On August 30 2012 10:39 Khang wrote:On August 30 2012 10:38 Dundron2000 wrote:On August 30 2012 10:36 Khang wrote:
Destiny is a dick, don't get me wrong. He may be good as like a show host or something related to SC2.
ANYWAY..
I think I speak for most of us when I say we've all stepped on the wrong girls toes from time to time. It happens..
actually i don't think you speak for must of us.. Most of us who have some sort of social life and have lost their virginity, sorry. just stop posting you abviously have no input to the discussion I'm sorry if I embarrassed you. Most normal guys have made a girl mad and have had a female come back at them, somehow. I guess, I forgot where I was at. I will continue contributing, since I've read your garbage and have seen absolutely nothing of value. your argument for Destiny sharing nude pictures of a girl with his friends and then threatening to blackmail her is that you have also "stepped on the wrong girls toes"? explain your point
I was saying one thing dude. It was cause and effect..
I may have the sequence of events out of order here, but to my knowledge Destiny made fun of her looks with TT1 and Fayth and leaks some photos. After the fact, she found out what was said and leaked his pictures over the internet which is what got this ball of shit rolling..
Did Destiny handle the situation like an adult? No, but we have to consider how immature the person has to be to even get to this point to begin with.
It wasn't intended to be that 'read in' to.
I was simply saying, most guys have pissed a girl off and had that girl come back at them twice as hard. There are a variety of different punch lines and such to go along with the idea.
That is all..
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On August 30 2012 10:44 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 10:41 Conti wrote:On August 30 2012 10:36 Yggdrazil wrote:On August 30 2012 10:34 Conti wrote:
Okay, I'm confused now. Did Destiny send his buddies nude pictures of the girl or perfectly ordinary ones? That's kind of a really damn important distinction here, and people keep saying one thing or the other in this thread. On August 30 2012 09:49 ROOTT1 wrote:nop what she posted was 100% true. me and fayth did receive nude pics of her, dunno why u guys would assume otherwise. i know theres alot of loyal destiny fans and ur trying to protect him but u guys need to stop twisting the truth. the reason why i linked that pic of bluetea was to show that we were looking at pics of bluetea in the main chat and not the 15 y.o girl -.,-. he just mentioned her Thank you. In that case.. bye bye Destiny, we're not going to miss you. And yes, what she did was equally unacceptable, but that in no way makes what Destiny did any better. Not to mention he completely disqualified himself later on with that public comment indirectly threatening her to get her out of her job, too. Ok so, let's see some girl shut you out of your social networking sites (especially ones that influence your revenue stream), post a picture of your dick for all and sundry to see, and respond calmly. I'm giving Destiny the benefit of the doubt and figure he posted that 'threat' while in a pissed off mood, and that he had no intention of following through with it. Maybe not, but if he was serious with it it would make him rather a hypocritical guy.
Of course he was angry. He was most likely more pissed off than he was in years. So he made a bloody stupid emotional statement. It's still no excuse.
Just like she was most likely seriously pissed off when she heard the guy who she shared nude pics with called her butt ugly, so she did an emotional, stupid thing. Not an excuse here, either.
The point of being an adult is to react in an adult fashion to issues like these. Neither party has done a very good job of showing us that they're adult human beings in this case.
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On August 30 2012 10:46 canikizu wrote:bluetea posted on redddit: Show nested quote +When I confronted him about it, he first feigned ignorance. When it became clear he was then just going to ignore me, I snapped. Are people missing this point or I just missed the answer? If she confronted him first and he ignored her and didn't even apologize, then he's just a dick (as if we haven't established that yet) and deserves what comes at him.
I can see it now:
Bluetea: "Steven what did you do!"
Destiny: "..."
Bluetea: "Steven if you don't talk to me I'm gonna get really angry!"
Destiny: "...."
Bluetea: "That's it Steven you're gonna regret this!"
Destiny: lol, what could she possibly do to me
10 minutes later...
Destiny: Oh right....the dick pics
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-there is a very good tool to evaluate someones character and loyalty: compare what he is saying in private to what he is saying in public.
-if you are a douchebag, then you have douchebag friends.
-a gentlemen does not boast about his conquests, especially not on the internet.
-only degenerated people show their **** to a webcam.
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I think we've all missed the point here, so to get back to the original question...
Would you guys hit it or quit it?
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I really don't even understand how any of this can be related to starcraft
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On August 30 2012 10:46 canikizu wrote:bluetea posted on redddit: Show nested quote +When I confronted him about it, he first feigned ignorance. When it became clear he was then just going to ignore me, I snapped. Are people missing this point or I just missed the answer? If she confronted him first and he ignored her and didn't even apologize, then he's just a dick (as if we haven't established that yet) and deserves what comes at him.
The keyword here is that big "if" in your second sentence. From what has been said here and there, she has been found out to lie about a few things, ie she stated that someone in Texas gave her the chat log, that was found out to be false. Would it really be that farfetched to think she would lie to continue to strengthen her position and make Destiny look even worst?
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On August 30 2012 10:42 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 10:41 OmiDeLta wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 Fireflies wrote:On August 30 2012 10:38 Dante_A_ wrote:I can't believe Destiny would threaten to go to her boss or dean and try to get this girl harmed that way. That is ridiculous, and it makes it impossible for me to think much of Destiny (especially when he was the one that started this chain of events). He makes that comment in the reddit thread
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid?
Are you saying she shouldn't be held responsible for her actions? Why, because she's a woman? This. held accountable for what? Destinys actions of sharing private photos of her?
Held accountable for publicly humiliating him, compromising his accounts, and trying to sabotage him! AND THEN BRAGGING ABOUT IT. That is way, way worse than some dickish behavior behind closed doors.
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On August 30 2012 10:47 firrae wrote:
So many white knights, so little brain usage...
As opposed to this post which actually says nothing, even about the object of your ire?
And yeah, to the guy above me I don't condone his behaviour either, kind of silly. I just didn't think it was a threat that he had any intention of actually following through with.
I actually used to be a Destiny fan, enjoyed his stream. However I do feel he has this very questionable way of treating women that is very off-putting to me, but equally I think the guy should be left alone and not dragged through this kind of drama time and time again by people who have nothing better to do.
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On August 30 2012 10:42 Dundron2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 10:41 OmiDeLta wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 Fireflies wrote:On August 30 2012 10:38 Dante_A_ wrote:I can't believe Destiny would threaten to go to her boss or dean and try to get this girl harmed that way. That is ridiculous, and it makes it impossible for me to think much of Destiny (especially when he was the one that started this chain of events). He makes that comment in the reddit thread
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid?
Are you saying she shouldn't be held responsible for her actions? Why, because she's a woman? This. held accountable for what? Destinys actions of sharing private photos of her?
I was thinking about the whole the "posting a picture of his penis on twitter and changing his passwords and stuff" thing but sure, we can go with that.
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On August 30 2012 10:50 OmiDeLta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 10:42 Dundron2000 wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 OmiDeLta wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 Fireflies wrote:On August 30 2012 10:38 Dante_A_ wrote:I can't believe Destiny would threaten to go to her boss or dean and try to get this girl harmed that way. That is ridiculous, and it makes it impossible for me to think much of Destiny (especially when he was the one that started this chain of events). He makes that comment in the reddit thread
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid?
Are you saying she shouldn't be held responsible for her actions? Why, because she's a woman? This. held accountable for what? Destinys actions of sharing private photos of her? Held accountable for publicly humiliating him, compromising his accounts, and trying to sabotage him! AND THEN BRAGGING ABOUT IT. That is way, way worse than some dickish behavior behind closed doors.
A small pile of shit and a giant pile a shit are both a pile of shit. And stink.
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On August 30 2012 10:49 ROOTFayth wrote:
I really don't even understand how any of this can be related to starcraft
This is why this scene has to get over this giant hump with the lack of professionalism with the players.
Chad Johnson headbutting his girlfriend has nothing to do with Football, but it got him kicked off the Dolphins didn't it?
You're associated with companies who intend on making money off a brand you wear on your shoulders. You're professionals at that point and your SPONSORS typically expect you to conduct yourself as such.
If the rest of the pro community is as short sighted as you're being, I really fear for the future of eSports.
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starcraft is life, life is drama , starcraft is drama, naked penis is drama, starcraft = naked penis? o.O
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On August 30 2012 10:52 valium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 10:50 OmiDeLta wrote:On August 30 2012 10:42 Dundron2000 wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 OmiDeLta wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 Fireflies wrote:On August 30 2012 10:38 Dante_A_ wrote:I can't believe Destiny would threaten to go to her boss or dean and try to get this girl harmed that way. That is ridiculous, and it makes it impossible for me to think much of Destiny (especially when he was the one that started this chain of events). He makes that comment in the reddit thread
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid?
Are you saying she shouldn't be held responsible for her actions? Why, because she's a woman? This. held accountable for what? Destinys actions of sharing private photos of her? Held accountable for publicly humiliating him, compromising his accounts, and trying to sabotage him! AND THEN BRAGGING ABOUT IT. That is way, way worse than some dickish behavior behind closed doors. A small pile of shit and a giant pile a shit are both a pile of shit. And stink.
Would you rather have the small pile or the big pile sitting in your room?
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On August 30 2012 10:52 valium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 10:50 OmiDeLta wrote:On August 30 2012 10:42 Dundron2000 wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 OmiDeLta wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 Fireflies wrote:On August 30 2012 10:38 Dante_A_ wrote:I can't believe Destiny would threaten to go to her boss or dean and try to get this girl harmed that way. That is ridiculous, and it makes it impossible for me to think much of Destiny (especially when he was the one that started this chain of events). He makes that comment in the reddit thread
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid?
Are you saying she shouldn't be held responsible for her actions? Why, because she's a woman? This. held accountable for what? Destinys actions of sharing private photos of her? Held accountable for publicly humiliating him, compromising his accounts, and trying to sabotage him! AND THEN BRAGGING ABOUT IT. That is way, way worse than some dickish behavior behind closed doors. A small pile of shit and a giant pile a shit are both a pile of shit. And stink.
Ok yeah but a small pile of shit could come from a smaller animal like a dog whereas a giant pile of shit could come from a cow, horse, giraffe, a fucking lion....
Think about it.....
(I just described a microcosm of this thread)
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On August 30 2012 10:53 OmiDeLta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 10:52 valium wrote:On August 30 2012 10:50 OmiDeLta wrote:On August 30 2012 10:42 Dundron2000 wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 OmiDeLta wrote:On August 30 2012 10:41 Fireflies wrote:On August 30 2012 10:38 Dante_A_ wrote:I can't believe Destiny would threaten to go to her boss or dean and try to get this girl harmed that way. That is ridiculous, and it makes it impossible for me to think much of Destiny (especially when he was the one that started this chain of events). He makes that comment in the reddit thread
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid?
Are you saying she shouldn't be held responsible for her actions? Why, because she's a woman? This. held accountable for what? Destinys actions of sharing private photos of her? Held accountable for publicly humiliating him, compromising his accounts, and trying to sabotage him! AND THEN BRAGGING ABOUT IT. That is way, way worse than some dickish behavior behind closed doors. A small pile of shit and a giant pile a shit are both a pile of shit. And stink. Would you rather have the small pile or the big pile sitting in your room?
I would rather have neither.
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Reading all these posts flaming and what not.. you can't really go passed the whole issue on a larger scale.. it will only escalate to become who will do what to be right.
i.e - Destiny showed the pics to his friends (in private) - ok this can be seen as a bad thing but if he considers these people as family then obviously he was betrayed, then some will argue that he shouldn't of sent them at all (each to his own).
the next argument is what the girl went and did.. is it considered payback? i think it was more along the lines of "destroying a reputation" a small group of guys compared to what 37,000 people on twitter and personal email... why couldn't she just go and post it to a smaller private basis.. guess she always had big plans in mind.
people are arguing about this on the small basis, i don't honestly agree with what the girl did in regards to "getting back at steve" and the steve posting pics to his friends... but others are going to say "good on her for doing what she did after she was humiliated..
Just weigh up the differences.. Small group of people that you can count on 2 hands, compared to the number of people that can be seen at big sporting events.. hell some football games don't even get that many numbers.
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