Destiny and Root part ways - Page 38

On August 30 2012 07:48 ROOTT1 wrote:
does anyone have a link to our skype chat?

This is the skype conversation linked. It sort of clarifies whats going on. It was linked in destiny's fanclub.

http://pastebin.com/B7yC0Xz5

On August 30 2012 07:42 D_K_night wrote:
OK for the record. There are THREE people here I'm gonna write my novel here on.

Number ONE is Catz.

I remember Catz back from the days of beta. He spoke out, about the need to foster smaller communities first, grow things gradually, and in this fashion give new faces a chance to stand out before they face off against the world. People didn't believe in him, only cared about thrusting everyone against Koreans and get their souls destroyed before even getting a chance to prove themselves in the smaller scenes.

And you know something? Catz was proven absolutely right.

What he did here, was show his leadership skills and willingness to take the blows head on. For this I say we need more people like him.

Number TWO is Destiny.

Destiny, we should honestly be able to see, are two people in one. Destiny the SC2 entertainer, and Steven Bonnell the real life person. If you seperate the two and just treat Destiny as the entertainer, personally I feel the biggest objections raised against his style would be all but nullified. He is performing the job of entertaining, putting on a show. Perhaps the only thing that might help, would be somewhere on his stream that says "all statements expressed within are fictional and do not represent the views of Root, Destiny, or any Sponsors herein".

Then there's Steven the human being, who is trying to provide for a son he dearly loves, and faced in a difficult relationship with the mother of his child. When you look around in the different threads, you will find scores of different people who actually met Steven in person, and shook his hand. He comes across as a fella who is very unlike his entertainer persona, and a very nice guy to interact with.

Number THREE is BlueTea.

I do not have enough information on her, aside from only breadcrumbs gathered by this incident. However sharing of the pictures...the follow up actions...without some more extensive detective work we cannot know if she was the one who logged into an already insecure Skype, access to logs of the chat, etc. Revenge has made the situation worse for all concerned. It is a huge downer that things even had to happen this way. Everything that's been said about safer computing and being diligent on password changes has been stated already by others.

On August 30 2012 07:50 Sombre wrote:
You reap what you sow. If he shared pictures of some girl naked, which were presumably sent in confidence, he deserves everything he got.

On August 30 2012 07:49 ghindo wrote:
Any talk about whether or not people have been emailing sponsors is purely speculative, from what I understand. Do we know for sure that Destiny was cut loose because people complained to sponsors? I haven't seen any proof.

It's convenient to blame Destiny's problems on this mysterious group of people who are supposedly running to sponsors at every chance they get, but I think it's an incredible leap to go from "Destiny was removed from Root" to "Destiny was removed from Root because of a widespread conspiracy that got him fired because they contacted Root's sponsors."

For all we know, this was a preemptive release from Root before sponsors caught wind of what was happening.

Again though, we're working off of conjecture and speculation, so who knows what the whole situation is. (But that won't stop people from making assumptions.)

On August 30 2012 07:44 Angel_ wrote:
I genuinely don't understand the people defending Destiny at this point.

To me it's the same as the people in whatever community it was defending those guys and coaches who were sexually harrassing and making comments at that girl gamer. Regardless of privacy and if it was okay, or sponsors and which ones were okay and which ones weren't and if people messaging sponsors is a problem because you genuinely think it scares sponsors away or if they just don't want to be part of such a community (note: either crybaby community that creates such drama about stupid things, OR a community full of such people that do such stupid shit in the first place (not the people, the players themselves))...Why do you continuously support and defend someone who continuously stirs up and causes so much shit? There is nothing positive that he contributes to the starcraft scene.

On August 30 2012 07:44 Angel_ wrote:
I genuinely don't understand the people defending Destiny at this point.

To me it's the same as the people in whatever community it was defending those guys and coaches who were sexually harrassing and making comments at that girl gamer. Regardless of privacy and if it was okay, or sponsors and which ones were okay and which ones weren't and if people messaging sponsors is a problem because you genuinely think it scares sponsors away or if they just don't want to be part of such a community (note: either crybaby community that creates such drama about stupid things, OR a community full of such people that do such stupid shit in the first place (not the people, the players themselves))...Why do you continuously support and defend someone who continuously stirs up and causes so much shit? There is nothing positive that he contributes to the starcraft scene.

On August 30 2012 07:52 ROOTT1 wrote:
hahaha the last line of the convo is me saying
"[1:32:16 PM] Payam Toghyan: hot dayum im gonna grind so many games today"

this following our conversation about sex, nude pics and pornstars LOL. aah im such a nerd

On August 30 2012 07:54 genius_man16 wrote:
It has always, and continues to, amaze me how rabid this guys fanbase is.

I mean, the guy continues to get involved in all kinds of terrible shit and then goes on his stream and tries to tell people how to be a good person. Like, dude, practice what you preach. Maybe if you acted like half the person you tell other people to be you wouldn't have had any of this crap happen to you. I'm honestly not sorry for him.

For those trying to defend him in this incident I have a few questions for you:

1) I see a lot of people hating on the girl for what she did, and saying "oh it's no big deal what Destiny did to start it". Why is it okay what destiny did but not what she did? He violated her trust by sharing her naked pics with his friends and so she violated his by using his passwords to show people his naked pictures. They are the same thing.

2) How do you like a guy that threatens to have a girls' scholarship revoked and fired from her job? Like what the fuck dude? She posted a picture of your penis, so fucking what. If you didn't want people to see it don't take a god damn picture of it. Also she did nothing to mess with your livelihood so on what grounds do you have to fuck with hers? And even if you can somehow argue that she did mess with your livelihood, then you started it and you should live with the consequences.

ROOT did the right thing letting him go. It's a guarantee that he will get into some other kind of stupid shit that becomes public within the next few months.

On August 30 2012 07:57 LimeNade wrote:
Umm the one thing I don't get is if it was only a couple people in the chat. Then someone aside from destiny had to snitch on him. Assuming they are all friends (i dunno but if it was only fayth and tt1 in the chat) fayth, tt1 and whoever else may have been in the chat what the hell were they doing snitching on their own friend/teammate which would only cause horrid publicity for their team. I wouldn't want a backstabber for a friend or teammate like that regardless of what the morality of the conversation/pics traded is considered. Sheesh man can't trust anyone these days