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As emotionally invested as people are on this topic, TL rules still apply. That includes flaming and ad hominem attacks.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
August 29 2012 20:47 GMT
#301
On August 30 2012 05:45 Contagious wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:41 sinsecticide wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:40 Contagious wrote:
Damn, dude. Destiny was thinking about fucking a 15 year old? That's just nast. You got kids man, you can't be pulling that shit.

... not even remotely paying attention to what actually happened. How does this misinformation keep propagating?


Read the skype chat log.

Link please.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
August 29 2012 20:47 GMT
#302
does fayth even play? hes obviously not good enough to be participating in their clanwars regardless
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 29 2012 20:47 GMT
#303
On August 30 2012 05:47 DarkPlague2863 wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:44 Bam Lee wrote:
Am i the only one that feels like bluetea overreacted? I mean seriously sharing nude pics among close friends is not cool especially if they make fun of her. But possibly destroying destinys future because of that? I mean its not like her nude pics were shared publicly.


It's not just you that "feels" like she overreacted, she overreacted on a level that's barely even concievable by a sane, non-sociopathic person. Someone was talking about her behind her back, so she goes out of her way to destroy that person's livelihood. She's insane.


And now he's going to her boss / college to ruin her life. I guess he's insane too.

I'm sure if you had nude pics of yourself posted and you found out you would be okay with it.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 29 2012 20:48 GMT
#304
On August 30 2012 05:47 P7GAB wrote:
does fayth even play? hes obviously not good enough to be participating in their clanwars regardless


He's not very good, I beat him on ladder pretty easily and then he BM'ed me for no reason (I didn't bother responding to his BM either). And I'm a mid/high-masters player -_-
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1238 Posts
August 29 2012 20:48 GMT
#305
On August 30 2012 05:20 algorithm0r wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:11 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:10 algorithm0r wrote:
So much for the edgy ROOT and welcome to just another BS team. Too bad Catz folded to the silly sponsor pressure too.


silly sponsor pressure? You mean.. those people that pay the bills?


I saw your "what's my favorite thing about america" on the TL clip. Basically there are more important things than money. Friends is one of them. I was a fan of ROOT because I thought money was less important to them than standing up for their dream and what they believe in. It would not be hard for ROOT to stand behind Steven in this case. This is not a big deal.

The pressure the sponsors felt was minor (messages on boards are not directly translated into money) and the pressure they put on ROOT was silly. Yes silly sponsor pressure.


If you think next time we get a sponsor they wont get spammed with emails about this and past incidents, then perhaps. But this was a really hard decision for us all, and I assure you it hurts me more than you having had to do this. We stood and we stand behind our players and friends a lot, but when having Steven on the team becomes a liability and potentially an obstacle for everyone else on the team to continue to move forward, a hard decision has to be made. This was a problem, and as much as we sat and thought about ways to go arround it, this was what we think to be the better, and perhaps only realistic solution. We want to continue to grow, we want to have a large budget and stay in eSports, and we need, good old silly sponsors, as I stated, this was not a decision made by our current sponsors, they were both very understanding of the situation, it was made by ROOT's managament, myself included, for what I believe is the greater good of the team and all of the people who work hard to help it succeed.
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
August 29 2012 20:48 GMT
#306
On August 30 2012 05:44 The KY wrote:
What the fuck is this shit man. This whole thing is pretty fucked haha.

And this..

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Was to two people***, not an entire chat room of people, two people that I consider pretty close friends.
I never feigned ignorance, just didn't want to get into it right before an MLG.
I can't imagine how you can think that people will never, ever, ever talk about anything personal or private amongst their friends. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't see myself caring at all if you shared pictures between your close friends, especially given the fact that I'd never see any of them in real life.
Glad you think you have a right to every single private conversation I ever have, though. Posting pictures of my dick to 37k people + cutting me off from access to my e-mail/twitter is probably reasonable payback for me discussing something personal with two friends.
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid?


Granted this girl did something vindictive and stupid but I wouldn't be sharing nude pictures of any girl if she sent them to me and certainly not if she was 15, and that threat at the end there is just nasty.


Yeah, that threat it pretty classless, but then again Destiny used to clean carpets for a living and is now making a living of entertaining people on a stream by spouting crude shit nonstop.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 20:50:02
August 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#307
On August 30 2012 05:46 Houkka wrote:
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On August 30 2012 04:52 MVega wrote:The FGC is at least as bad as the SC2/LoL communities, and more racist.


Really? I wasn't aware of this. Who does the fighting game community discriminate against based on race?
Edit: I almost completely missed the fact that you also implied the SC2 and LoL communities are racist. I would also like to know who I, as part of at least one of those communities, am racist against?

On topic ->

I support Destiny, because his problem is that he tries to live a normal life and be a normal, everyday person, even though he's a public figure. In a community closely connected to the internet. He doesn't want to put on a PR-mask and run a media-friendly theater, and that's why some people decide he's objectively evil and and should be "taught a lesson" by having constant attempts at ruining his livelihood targeted at him. He's a public figure, so people think they have the right and obligation to interfere with his private life and personality. Because somehow a lot of people, if not most, have got it in their heads that other people's personal affairs somehow concern them.

I'm not saying the conversation (that we've unfortunately all read by now) was just fine and dandy, but that's what people do. They talk about other people all the time, usually behind their backs. This is a matter that should've been handled between the parties involved, and I'm pretty damn sure everyone who went out of their way to involve themselves and other unrelated parties to it by contacting sponsors and other similar stupid shit are completely aware of it. Just because a private/personal matter is made or otherwise becomes public doesn't mean it's anyone else's business. People are way too quick to judge others completely based on minimal information about them. If it doesn't concern you, it's none of your business, you don't even know any of the parties involved and it's a private matter anyway, just stay out of it. Talk about it and think about it all you want, but don't get involved. It's stupid and unnecessary, even if it is the norm in our culture.


The FGC is infinitely more ethnically diverse than esports and accepting because they have to be. They have too many diffrerent kinds of people interacting to be able to exist without at least being tolerant of each other. They actually have black people playing their games, unlike esports (as a whole, not in an absolute sense).
Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
August 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#308
Whole situation kinda sucks, I feel bad for Destiny though because lets face it, if he cant stay on a team with his closest friends where the heck does he go from here?

Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
August 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#309
On August 30 2012 05:42 TheSir wrote:
this hole Destiny shit is so dumb, im not even gonna read it and i dont care about it.


Thanks for coming in to the thread to let us know that, and assuming that people care that you don't care, or something.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
August 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#310
On August 30 2012 05:41 Hypemeup wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:40 Mr Showtime wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:35 mrtomjones wrote:
Why the hell do people still go directly to the sponsors? God I hate this community sometimes. Grow up. I bet not a single one of those people goes to sponsors to say how they buy their products or to congratulate them on doing well in a tournament.


They are the same people that emailed Gigabyte calling Destiny a racist and had him dropped as a caster (okay, this is an assumption. same type of people if you will). Any opportunity they get to bring Destiny down they will take.


It is not like they are lacking examples of him being a dork though.


Correct, but my point was that their solution is to always go to the very top and inflict as much unnecessary damage as possible. It's a similar issue as the EG/orb thing. This particular instance was 'more' justified, but it's still wrong. When a player does something that you don't like, you complain to his team or his PERSONAL sponsors (if he/she has any). Going to the very top and complaining to the ROOT sponsors about Destiny's mess is inappropriate. Complaints to the ROOT sponsors directly should only happen when the collective organization (ROOT) or leader of said organization (CatZ) does something out of line.
IHaveArms
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom42 Posts
August 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#311
On August 30 2012 05:43 xrapture wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:40 Contagious wrote:
Damn, dude. Destiny was thinking about fucking a 15 year old? That's just nast. You got kids man, you can't be pulling that shit.


Yup, he's god a kid, no job, and no education while talking about fucking 15 year girls, sexually harassing Mia Rose, giving underage kids alcohol, saying racial slurs daily, and sending pics of his tiny dick. He is just fantastic for the SC2 scene!

Bro, are you actually stupid? First off, streaming is his job. Second, I'm pretty sure he's got a education from what I've heard. Bluetea is not underaged, and I don't think he ever said he wanted to fuck her. When did he give underaged kids alcohol? And I think his dick is slightly above average, after studying it for 5 hours (that was a joke). And yes, he brings a bit of adult humor to the scene...You probably just want the SC2 scene to be PG 13 don't you?
"Your par game is weak" - Tim Westwood
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#312
This is what happens when you reveal your spire.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
August 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#313
I looked everything over, read the Skype chat, etc... never seen such a big deal made of a private conversation between friends, wow... I guess if it had stayed private it would have been fine, but damn, that really sucks for Destiny (and I'm not a fan of his AT ALL).
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
August 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#314
On August 30 2012 05:48 FairForever wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:47 P7GAB wrote:
does fayth even play? hes obviously not good enough to be participating in their clanwars regardless


He's not very active, I beat him on ladder pretty easily and then he BM'ed me for no reason (I didn't bother responding to his BM either). And I'm a mid/high-masters player -_-

fyp
GGDeMoN
Profile Joined April 2011
109 Posts
August 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#315
surely destiny will get put in prison? hes sending porn to a minor age lol, in most countries this would be illegal and the police would be straight round your house if they found out about this ^^ I guess everyone will loose destiny's respect now for this, how stupid can he be? sendind naked pictures do a 15 year old girl... insane if u ask me..

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The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 20:53:23
August 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#316
On August 30 2012 05:41 sinsecticide wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:40 Contagious wrote:
Damn, dude. Destiny was thinking about fucking a 15 year old? That's just nast. You got kids man, you can't be pulling that shit.

... not even remotely paying attention to what actually happened. How does this misinformation keep propagating?


It comes from a different part of the conversation they were having. Destiny was not sharing pics of a 15 year-old, but he did talk/joke about how it was 'hard to say no' to a hookup request from one:

[1:17:10 PM] Steven Bonnell II: you want to see
[1:17:11 PM] Steven Bonnell II: the sickest shi
[1:17:14 PM] Steven Bonnell II: in the world?
[1:17:15 PM] Steven Bonnell II: so many fangirls
[1:17:17 PM] Steven Bonnell II: i had one
[1:17:19 PM] Steven Bonnell II: that was 15
[1:17:34 PM] Josue "Fayth" Sauvageau: what did she do
[1:17:42 PM] Payam Toghyan: yea dude so shes pretty much the rl reincarnation of shrek
[1:17:50 PM] Josue "Fayth" Sauvageau: t'as vu la pic?
[1:17:50 PM] Josue "Fayth" Sauvageau: LOL
[1:17:50 PM] Payam Toghyan: but np
[1:17:56 PM] Payam Toghyan: sick tits
[1:17:58 PM] Steven Bonnell II: she wanted to meet
[1:17:59 PM] Steven Bonnell II: and hook up
[1:18:07 PM] Josue "Fayth" Sauvageau: and?
[1:18:13 PM] Payam Toghyan: just tell her to not look at u
[1:18:22 PM] Payam Toghyan: u get uncomfortable when ppl make eye contact
[1:18:25 PM] Payam Toghyan: or something
[1:18:25 PM] Steven Bonnell II: dude she's 15
[1:18:25 PM] Steven Bonnell II: wtf
[1:18:28 PM] Steven Bonnell II: but she sent me pictures
[1:18:29 PM] Payam Toghyan: WTF
[1:18:32 PM] Payam Toghyan: SHES HUGE
[1:18:33 PM] Steven Bonnell II: that made it so hard
[1:18:34 PM] Steven Bonnell II: to say no
[1:18:37 PM] Steven Bonnell II: payam no not this girl
[1:18:39 PM] Steven Bonnell II: i'm talking different one
[1:18:42 PM] Payam Toghyan: i
[1:18:43 PM] Payam Toghyan: o
[1:18:44 PM] Josue "Fayth" Sauvageau: pics plz
[1:18:50 PM] Payam Toghyan: fayth likes the preteens
[1:18:50 PM] Josue "Fayth" Sauvageau: but what happened then
[1:18:51 PM] *** Steven Bonnell II sent 0235.jpg TIYLP .jpg ***
[1:18:53 PM] Steven Bonnell II: girl on the left
[1:19:07 PM] Steven Bonnell II: so hard to say no
[1:19:11 PM] Steven Bonnell II: gonna get arrested one of these MLGs man
You Got The Touch
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 20:56:33
August 29 2012 20:51 GMT
#317
I feel dirty for reading other's people private conversation. This whole thing is a sad mess. I'm thankful for having feminist sisters that taught me what respect looks like.


On August 30 2012 05:48 Hypemeup wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:44 The KY wrote:
What the fuck is this shit man. This whole thing is pretty fucked haha.

And this..

Was to two people***, not an entire chat room of people, two people that I consider pretty close friends.
I never feigned ignorance, just didn't want to get into it right before an MLG.
I can't imagine how you can think that people will never, ever, ever talk about anything personal or private amongst their friends. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't see myself caring at all if you shared pictures between your close friends, especially given the fact that I'd never see any of them in real life.
Glad you think you have a right to every single private conversation I ever have, though. Posting pictures of my dick to 37k people + cutting me off from access to my e-mail/twitter is probably reasonable payback for me discussing something personal with two friends.
Thanks for the new work location, I wonder what your boss will think of this. Or your dean, for that matter. I wonder if it'd affect your scholarship or financial aid?


Granted this girl did something vindictive and stupid but I wouldn't be sharing nude pictures of any girl if she sent them to me and certainly not if she was 15, and that threat at the end there is just nasty.


Yeah, that threat it pretty classless, but then again Destiny used to clean carpets for a living and is now making a living of entertaining people on a stream by spouting crude shit nonstop.


What, is there anything wrong with people who clean carpets for a living? Poor people are classless? Aw come the fuck on, watch your mouth kid.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 29 2012 20:51 GMT
#318
On August 30 2012 05:49 IHaveArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 05:43 xrapture wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:40 Contagious wrote:
Damn, dude. Destiny was thinking about fucking a 15 year old? That's just nast. You got kids man, you can't be pulling that shit.


Yup, he's god a kid, no job, and no education while talking about fucking 15 year girls, sexually harassing Mia Rose, giving underage kids alcohol, saying racial slurs daily, and sending pics of his tiny dick. He is just fantastic for the SC2 scene!

And yes, he brings a bit of adult humor to the scene...

..lol...

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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 29 2012 20:51 GMT
#319
On August 30 2012 05:47 FairForever wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:47 DarkPlague2863 wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:44 Bam Lee wrote:
Am i the only one that feels like bluetea overreacted? I mean seriously sharing nude pics among close friends is not cool especially if they make fun of her. But possibly destroying destinys future because of that? I mean its not like her nude pics were shared publicly.


It's not just you that "feels" like she overreacted, she overreacted on a level that's barely even concievable by a sane, non-sociopathic person. Someone was talking about her behind her back, so she goes out of her way to destroy that person's livelihood. She's insane.


And now he's going to her boss / college to ruin her life. I guess he's insane too.

I'm sure if you had nude pics of yourself posted and you found out you would be okay with it.

An eyelash for an eye... and he reciprocates with an eye.

Makes sense if you ask me.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
August 29 2012 20:52 GMT
#320
On August 30 2012 05:50 Boucot wrote:
This is what happens when you reveal your spire.

Or when Spirewatch 2011 ends with a dead spire off creep
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