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As emotionally invested as people are on this topic, TL rules still apply. That includes flaming and ad hominem attacks.
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
August 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#341
On August 30 2012 05:47 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 05:45 Contagious wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:41 sinsecticide wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:40 Contagious wrote:
Damn, dude. Destiny was thinking about fucking a 15 year old? That's just nast. You got kids man, you can't be pulling that shit.

... not even remotely paying attention to what actually happened. How does this misinformation keep propagating?


Read the skype chat log.

Link please.

It's in the OP.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#342
This kind of stuff gets you kicked out of professional sport teams, y'know.

I think CatZ made the right decision here.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
August 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#343
On August 30 2012 05:52 BuiBui wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:48 ROOTCatZ wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:20 algorithm0r wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:11 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:10 algorithm0r wrote:
So much for the edgy ROOT and welcome to just another BS team. Too bad Catz folded to the silly sponsor pressure too.


silly sponsor pressure? You mean.. those people that pay the bills?


I saw your "what's my favorite thing about america" on the TL clip. Basically there are more important things than money. Friends is one of them. I was a fan of ROOT because I thought money was less important to them than standing up for their dream and what they believe in. It would not be hard for ROOT to stand behind Steven in this case. This is not a big deal.

The pressure the sponsors felt was minor (messages on boards are not directly translated into money) and the pressure they put on ROOT was silly. Yes silly sponsor pressure.


If you think next time we get a sponsor they wont get spammed with emails about this and past incidents, then perhaps. But this was a really hard decision for us all, and I assure you it hurts me more than you having had to do this. We stood and we stand behind our players and friends a lot, but when having Steven on the team becomes a liability and potentially an obstacle for everyone else on the team to continue to move forward, a hard decision has to be made. This was a problem, and as much as we sat and thought about ways to go arround it, this was what we think to be the better, and perhaps only realistic solution. We want to continue to grow, we want to have a large budget and stay in eSports, and we need, good old silly sponsors, as I stated, this was not a decision made by our current sponsors, they were both very understanding of the situation, it was made by ROOT's managament, myself included, for what I believe is the greater good of the team and all of the people who work hard to help it succeed.


Its hard to comprehend how hard it must have been to come to your decision. I hope for the best for Root, and it's players.


I'd like to say that I appreciate how hard it must have been to take this decision, I really hope things work out for Root, for yourself and Destiny
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
August 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#344
This doesnt surprise me one bit to be honest.

as tough as it may have been, ROOT made the right decision. I think itll be so difficult if not next to impossible for destiny to even join a decent team again.

I am trying so hard not to be judgemental so i think i will refrain from continuing to write what i am really thinking..
Asharon
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 21:02:16
August 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#345
So wait a minute...

He showed pictures of her to two of his friends? Dickmove... yes

She: Got access to a PRIVATE conversation, Hacks his facebook and Twitter, shows pictures of his manhood to 37000 people, makes him lose his "job" and also got 2 others suspended from "work" for a month. In my opinion this is... incredibly way heavier than what he did. I really hope he does publish her pictures to her friends, parents, employers, local newspapers whatever... this really requires payback.

... or just sue her.
“I meant,” said Iplsore bitterly, “what is there in this world that makes living worthwhile?” Death thought about it. ‘CATS’, he said eventually, “CATS ARE NICE.”
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
August 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#346
On August 30 2012 05:47 FairForever wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:47 DarkPlague2863 wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:44 Bam Lee wrote:
Am i the only one that feels like bluetea overreacted? I mean seriously sharing nude pics among close friends is not cool especially if they make fun of her. But possibly destroying destinys future because of that? I mean its not like her nude pics were shared publicly.


It's not just you that "feels" like she overreacted, she overreacted on a level that's barely even concievable by a sane, non-sociopathic person. Someone was talking about her behind her back, so she goes out of her way to destroy that person's livelihood. She's insane.


And now he's going to her boss / college to ruin her life. I guess he's insane too.

I'm sure if you had nude pics of yourself posted and you found out you would be okay with it.


I went through my life making damn sure I never gave out nude photos because the risk is way too great. If she didn't want them to get around, she shouldn't have sent them in the first place. She has nobody to blame but herself.
"I wonder if there is a league below copper? If so, I would like to inhabit it." -TotalBiscuit "In the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, ROOF FLIES OFF!" -George Carlin <3 HerO <3 Kiwikaki <3 MKP
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#347
On August 30 2012 05:55 Sub40APM wrote:
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On August 30 2012 05:52 Tipany wrote:
Fuck, people need to stop perpetuating this lie about the girl being a 15 year old.

It's a serious allegation and people are stupid to not crosscheck their facts.


Well, this is from the chat log,

Show nested quote +

[1:18:25 PM] Steven Bonnell II: dude she's 15
[1:18:25 PM] Steven Bonnell II: wtf
[1:18:28 PM] Steven Bonnell II: but she sent me pictures
[1:18:29 PM] Payam Toghyan: WTF
[1:18:32 PM] Payam Toghyan: SHES HUGE
[1:18:33 PM] Steven Bonnell II: that made it so hard
[1:18:34 PM] Steven Bonnell II: to say no

How do you interpret this? In the context of nude-picture-gate.

You interpret it by not taking it out of context and reading the next couple lines?
[1:18:34 PM] Steven Bonnell II: to say no
[1:18:37 PM] Steven Bonnell II: payam no not this girl
[1:18:39 PM] Steven Bonnell II: i'm talking different one
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#348
Oh good lord, SC2 scene is becoming a parody of itself.

At this point this is so bad it's actually good.
Khang
Profile Joined August 2012
United States24 Posts
August 29 2012 20:58 GMT
#349
On August 30 2012 05:49 Chillax wrote:
Whole situation kinda sucks, I feel bad for Destiny though because lets face it, if he cant stay on a team with his closest friends where the heck does he go from here?



I hate to say it, he does it to himself. There are 'ups and down' that have to come with his rise to fame. We all know how he got to where he is now, it wasn't necessarily with his abilities as a player. Granted, hes better than me and a heap of other people. I don't call myself a pro gamer, nor does the overwhelming majority of masters.

I'll give him this. Hes where hes at today because of who he is. Does that mean he has to continue with his antics to stay where hes at? I really don't think so anymore. But, its just who he is, I guess.

Best of luck to Destiny. If one thing is for certain, if he leaves Poland beating top pros, I don't think he'll have a problem finding a team. This isn't 'IT' for him. He needs to consider a reform though. He has to get away from that persona that put him to where hes at to start being taken seriously as a professional.

FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 29 2012 20:58 GMT
#350
On August 30 2012 05:57 OmiDeLta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 05:47 FairForever wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:47 DarkPlague2863 wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:44 Bam Lee wrote:
Am i the only one that feels like bluetea overreacted? I mean seriously sharing nude pics among close friends is not cool especially if they make fun of her. But possibly destroying destinys future because of that? I mean its not like her nude pics were shared publicly.


It's not just you that "feels" like she overreacted, she overreacted on a level that's barely even concievable by a sane, non-sociopathic person. Someone was talking about her behind her back, so she goes out of her way to destroy that person's livelihood. She's insane.


And now he's going to her boss / college to ruin her life. I guess he's insane too.

I'm sure if you had nude pics of yourself posted and you found out you would be okay with it.


I went through my life making damn sure I never gave out nude photos because the risk is way too great. If she didn't want them to get around, she shouldn't have sent them in the first place. She has nobody to blame but herself.


You could say the same about Destiny, as it's how she got revenge.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
August 29 2012 20:58 GMT
#351
I think the lesson we can all take from this is that you should never store nude pics of yourself on a device with an internet connection.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 29 2012 20:58 GMT
#352
On August 30 2012 05:57 Talin wrote:
Oh good lord, SC2 scene is becoming a parody of itself.

At this point this is so bad it's actually good.


Almost as good as the match-fixing scandal.
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
August 29 2012 20:58 GMT
#353
dude.. if there are pics of destiny wearing a root shirt with his dick out going around, its completely reasonable that root let him ago. its sad to say that destiny has potential but he proves to be immature time after time, getting in trouble with sponsorships. companies listen to feedback from their customers and potential customers, so it is just business to want to get rid of someone with a bad reputation.
since 98'
XpNc
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Spain64 Posts
August 29 2012 20:59 GMT
#354
On August 30 2012 05:57 Asharon wrote:
So wait a minuten...

He showed pictures of her to two of his friends? Dickmove... yes

She: Got access to a PRIVATE conversation, showed a picture of his manhood to 37000 people, made him lose his "job" and also got 2 others suspended from "work" for a month. In my opinion this is... incredibly way heavier that what he did. I really hope he does publish her pictures to her friends, parents, employers, local newspapers whatever... this really requires payback.

... or just sue her.



Ever heard of the phrase "Payback's a bitch"?

Good decision by ROOT. Sucks they have one less good player though.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
August 29 2012 20:59 GMT
#355
On August 30 2012 04:35 BlooDAnGeL wrote:
What was in the photos & private conversations?

Basically, Bluetea compromised his twitter account and posted pictures of his cock.
Houkka
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland51 Posts
August 29 2012 21:00 GMT
#356
On August 30 2012 05:49 Serpico wrote:

The FGC is infinitely more ethnically diverse than esports and accepting because they have to be. They have too many diffrerent kinds of people interacting to be able to exist without at least being tolerant of each other. They actually have black people playing their games, unlike esports (as a whole, not in an absolute sense).


I know, man. I was just trying to make a point about how stupid it is to call any of the aforementioned communities racist because of exactly what you said. I'm pretty sure it's a very, very small minority of people playing any of these games that are actually racist (I'm talking about real racism, not politically incorrect words here. If any of you don't know the difference, you might want to look up on that).
“Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist” -George Carlin
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
August 29 2012 21:00 GMT
#357
On August 30 2012 05:58 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 05:57 OmiDeLta wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:47 FairForever wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:47 DarkPlague2863 wrote:
On August 30 2012 05:44 Bam Lee wrote:
Am i the only one that feels like bluetea overreacted? I mean seriously sharing nude pics among close friends is not cool especially if they make fun of her. But possibly destroying destinys future because of that? I mean its not like her nude pics were shared publicly.


It's not just you that "feels" like she overreacted, she overreacted on a level that's barely even concievable by a sane, non-sociopathic person. Someone was talking about her behind her back, so she goes out of her way to destroy that person's livelihood. She's insane.


And now he's going to her boss / college to ruin her life. I guess he's insane too.

I'm sure if you had nude pics of yourself posted and you found out you would be okay with it.


I went through my life making damn sure I never gave out nude photos because the risk is way too great. If she didn't want them to get around, she shouldn't have sent them in the first place. She has nobody to blame but herself.


You could say the same about Destiny, as it's how she got revenge.


This is true, and just that probably would have been fair. But no! She has to go digging around into his personal life, expose him for something dumb that he did, and ACTIVELY ATTEMPT TO SABOTAGE HIS JOB. I don't care what he might have done to her, THAT is completely over the line no matter how you look at it.
"I wonder if there is a league below copper? If so, I would like to inhabit it." -TotalBiscuit "In the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, ROOF FLIES OFF!" -George Carlin <3 HerO <3 Kiwikaki <3 MKP
Iberville
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada207 Posts
August 29 2012 21:00 GMT
#358
Full grown people acting like underaged teenagers. Yawn/boring.

Good on CatZ not beating around the bush with this one and asserting a clear fact that he's trying to get his team to be professional.
I promise not to make a tasteless joke.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
August 29 2012 21:00 GMT
#359
On August 30 2012 05:47 DarkPlague2863 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 05:44 Bam Lee wrote:
Am i the only one that feels like bluetea overreacted? I mean seriously sharing nude pics among close friends is not cool especially if they make fun of her. But possibly destroying destinys future because of that? I mean its not like her nude pics were shared publicly.


It's not just you that "feels" like she overreacted, she overreacted on a level that's barely even concievable by a sane, non-sociopathic person. Someone was talking about her behind her back, so she goes out of her way to destroy that person's livelihood. She's insane.

This is pretty much my reaction too. Cannot understand how people can make out Destiny to be the bad guy here. It was her choice to send the pictures to him, and by sending nude pictures you have to accept they might be shown to other people. Her reaction was over the top, and to be frank I hope he press charges if possible; her mentality is just scary.
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NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
August 29 2012 21:00 GMT
#360
Anyone who says they've never had a similar conversation with a group of guys (even if you weren't directly participating, just sitting listening) than you're pretty much lying... Guys (and girls also) talk like this, on the internet when you read it in text it seems a lot worse than sitting around the poker table but everyone's blowing this out of proportion.

One: The person who leaked this is a Fucking idiot and should be removed from ROOT, not Destiny for trusting in his friends confidence.

Two: Legal action should be taken directly against the fangirl who decided to do this, it's hard to argue that this is not fighting fire with fire but what she did is very much illegal, especially since she seems so proud about it.

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