EPT@EGThorZaIN
I will unfortunately forfeit my GSL up & down spot due to a couple of reasons and focus completely on WCS European Finals instead.
EG.ThorZaIN forfeits Up/Down spot
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catplanetcatplanet
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@EGThorZaIN I will unfortunately forfeit my GSL up & down spot due to a couple of reasons and focus completely on WCS European Finals instead. | ||
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iamperfection
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SFX
United States89 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Jade
Poland289 Posts
I hope everything will go well for T-Funk from now on and that he can do well in the WCS | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
WTF THORZAIN! WHY??!!??! | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
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CptCutter
United Kingdom370 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. wasting your time? where the hell could you ever get that from? your just stupid and selfish. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. Huh? He didn't get seeded (this time), he got it by in Code S last season. And how is his seed vacated? He is still in Code A. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
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Melo.
United States63 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. He is in UD due to his Code S performance, so he isn't vacating any seed. He was only given a Code S seed. | ||
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TsGBruzze
Sweden1190 Posts
 now he better win the wcs eu! | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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HolydaKing
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RiceAgainst
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:39 GumBa wrote: Seed a Kespa Pro! ;P They prob just leave it vacant, which doesn't really matter in UnD (3 groups of 5 and 2 groups of 6, his was 6). The opposite is true also, if they wanted to seed KeSPA player they could just do it, regardless if ThorZaiN forfeit or not. (though they would need # of Code A seed so total number of Code A players not change). | ||
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Maddhatter1
United States51 Posts
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:39 HolydaKing wrote: what the fuck, he announced it 14 hours before the games happen? lol, hope everyone knew about it. pretty stupid for his opponents who maybe prepared for him. I don't think koreans bother to prepare for foreigners except Stephano right now. But yeah, forfeiting this close to the match is absurd. Come on, Thorzain. | ||
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Hiea
Denmark1538 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:42 Shinespark wrote: I don't think koreans bother to prepare for foreigners except Stephano right now. But yeah, forfeiting this close to the match is absurd. Come on, Thorzain. They do, just read Bombers interview for Up n' Downs, he prepared as much for MaNa as if he were a korean pro. | ||
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ThePiedPiper
Canada102 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. You clearly don't know that he was really sick at the MLG, and it seems that he is just recovering | ||
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Norzma
Sweden160 Posts
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. He was not seeded, maybe you should actually learn the facts before spouting entitled bullshit. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. Don't be an asshole. He's extremely ill with tonsilitis and has been for a couple weeks. He had to forfeit his winner's bracket match at Raleigh, and his throat hurts so much he can't talk. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4728 Posts
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TapetalKarma
United States127 Posts
best of luck to ThorZaIN, may he sprint down red carpets soon | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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Danzo
2820 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Don't be an asshole. He's extremely ill with tonsilitis and has been for a couple weeks. He had to forfeit his winner's bracket match at Raleigh, and his throat hurts so much he can't talk. Extremely ill with tonsillitis? lol I had my tonsillitis taken out when I was a little kid and I don't remember it being that bad. | ||
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
Why progamer like thorzain can't train for GSL and WGS at the same time? + Show Spoiler + Does he want to hide some secrets builds ? or other reason? | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
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Jtom
Ireland1044 Posts
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CeriseCherries
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TmzZ666
Poland144 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:58 Danzo wrote: Extremely ill with tonsillitis? lol I had my tonsillitis taken out when I was a little kid and I don't remember it being that bad. Cut the crap, he's sick period. | ||
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Leetley
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Groog
127 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:39 HolydaKing wrote: what the fuck, he announced it 14 hours before the games happen? lol, hope everyone knew about it. pretty stupid for his opponents who maybe prepared for him. You know there's 6 people in the U/D group, right? | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Then why doesn't he say that? O_o I didn't know he's ill and now he says he's practising for another tour. Doesn't sound like he couldn't participate. @Groog: Yes, but you can prepare for all of them a little bit, no? If it makes sense or not is another thing. | ||
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Hypertension
United States802 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:55 Silvanel wrote: Its kinda sad that gom is doing so much for foregin players and it ends in disapoitments so much ((Sounds like you missed Group A. Edit: GL in WCS ThorZain. | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
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PowerDes
United States520 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
I wish you best of luck, thorzain, in wcs and code a! (i assume he goes to code as if he lost every match in up & down) | ||
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:10 rhs408 wrote: WTF Thorzain...European WCS > GSL? Mostly WCS is after GSL, sp he actually has a chance to be healthy for that tournament. | ||
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Vaftrudner
Sweden1185 Posts
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:11 Yorbon wrote: Somewhat shocked by hate uncalled for in this thread. I wish you best of luck, thorzain, in wcs and code a! (i assume he goes to code as if he lost every match in up & down) I really hope he doesn't get to keep his spot if he forfeits the up and downs. | ||
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:01 Gyro_SC2 wrote: I have a question. Why progamer like thorzain can't train for GSL and WGS at the same time? + Show Spoiler + Does he want to hide some secrets builds ? or other reason? because he is really sick and will not be able to practice for gsl. | ||
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Goetzinho 88
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:15 karpo wrote: I really hope he doesn't get to keep his spot if he forfeits the up and downs. He wasn't GIVEN this spot in up and downs. He is there based on his performance in GSL last season. His forfeit knocks him down to Code A next season. Relax. He is really sick and would lose anyways because he cannot practice. Why are people hiveminding on this hate train. Chill the fuck out. | ||
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:18 Goetzinho 88 wrote: What happened to Thorzain since he joined EG? Its the same with HuK ...money corrupted their souls! Getting sick and being unable to play has nothing to do with stupid comments like that. | ||
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StarGalaxy
Germany744 Posts
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imEnex
Canada500 Posts
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Serinox
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:42 Shinespark wrote: I don't think koreans bother to prepare for foreigners except Stephano right now. But yeah, forfeiting this close to the match is absurd. Come on, Thorzain. He was in Raleigh yesterday and very very sick. He has to travel to Korea immediately and play matches without preparation? Forfeiting the spot isn't absurd. | ||
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:10 rhs408 wrote: WTF Thorzain...European WCS > GSL? WCS is much later which gives him ample time to recover from his illness AND practice. He would not be able to practice for his GSL matches so instead of playing horribly because he has been bedridden with illness he is going to forfeit. Would you get mad at someone who tore their ACL for not playing the first half of a basketball season because they want to regain their strength. Relax bro. | ||
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. i feel sorry for gomtv | ||
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
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NuKE[vZ]
United States249 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Seems like he's not even going to try for Code A despite it being a while away which is a shame. | ||
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ragz_gt
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On August 28 2012 04:25 Greggle wrote: Good news, another spot for a Kespa player! Not true unless he also forfeit his Code A spot (which the tweet doesn't say) | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:11 Yorbon wrote: Somewhat shocked by hate uncalled for in this thread. I wish you best of luck, thorzain, in wcs and code a! (i assume he goes to code as if he lost every match in up & down) Expressing disappointment does not equal to hate. I didn't see anything unreasonable so far in this thread. Perhaps you should re-evaluate your definition of hate. | ||
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BobLobIaw
Oman142 Posts
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CeriseCherries
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On August 28 2012 04:30 Squeegy wrote: Expressing disappointment does not equal to hate. I didn't see anything unreasonable so far in this thread. Perhaps you should re-evaluate your definition of hate. On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. yup if that aint a haterade drinker idk what is | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:20 DivinO wrote: He was in Raleigh yesterday and very very sick. He has to travel to Korea immediately and play matches without preparation? Forfeiting the spot isn't absurd. But the constant traveling is absurd. This is why the KeSPA players will take over sooner or later because everyone else is just attending fucking everything they can. The fact that players goes overseas and gets back to Korea 1 day or the same day they play something GSL related is pretty sad tbh. Even more dissapointing that Thorzain was gonna do that again since he have done it before and played shit games those times aswell because he came to Korea tired/lack of preperation etc. :/ | ||
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HolydaKing
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On August 28 2012 04:31 CeriseCherries wrote: yup if that aint a haterade drinker idk what is actually given his excuse in this thread that post isn't that uncalled for... not everyone knows he's sick and can't play | ||
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Schlurpi
Germany109 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:31 BobLobIaw wrote: EG - GG Sometimes, so much stupidity makes me sad... he is sick!!! Get your informations right, before posting something. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:35 Schlurpi wrote: Sometimes, so much stupidity makes me sad... he is sick!!! Get your informations right, before posting something. I thought this was e "sports" and these were "athletes" bro. "Sorry coach I can't play in the playoffs-- got a sore throat." User was warned for this post | ||
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mathemagician1986
Germany549 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:36 xrapture wrote: I thought this was e "sports" and these were "athletes" bro. "Sorry coach I can't play in the playoffs-- got a sore throat." you have no idea what Tonsillitis is, do you. | ||
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Medrea
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:36 xrapture wrote: I thought this was e "sports" and these were "athletes" bro. "Sorry coach I can't play in the playoffs-- got a sore throat." You can't be serious. Acute Tonsillitis is horribly painful and can last for a while. Stop trolling. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:36 xrapture wrote: I thought this was e "sports" and these were "athletes" bro. "Sorry coach I can't play in the playoffs-- got a sore throat." Oh common... why do people feel the need to be such dicks about it. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:38 mathemagician1986 wrote: you have no idea what Tonsillitis is, do you. He probably had a minor case of it in the past and thinks that it's the same for everyone or something. Really shocks me how ridiculous some people can be. | ||
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ref4
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
Get better soon! | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:36 xrapture wrote: I thought this was e "sports" and these were "athletes" bro. "Sorry coach I can't play in the playoffs-- got a sore throat." It happens and it's completely reasonable. Stop talking out of your ass. | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. Wtf dude. He's been horribly sick. The fact the he didn't state that as the reason was merely an effort to make sure it didn't look like he was making bad excuses. Maybe do a little research before making these assumptions. On August 28 2012 04:44 helvete wrote: Wow joining EG didn't do Thorzain's public image any good! How in the fuck is this related to anything? | ||
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helvete
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sekritzzz
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I don't fault thorzain its his choice afterall but I really wish GSL would stop giving Foreigners seeds and let everyone work for his spot. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10700 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:43 Mr Showtime wrote: Wtf dude. He's been horribly sick. The fact the he didn't state that as the reason was merely an effort to make sure it didn't look like he was making bad excuses. Maybe do a little research before making these assumptions. How in the fuck is this related to anything? The ways of the EG curse is miracoulous  .Nah, hope he gets better soon, i'm sure he himself is disappointed enough not being able to attend these games... | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:48 sekritzzz wrote: For thorzain this is lacking class. Maybe he is sick but then again he said he's preparing for another tournament so I don't know how well that stands as an excuse? I don't fault thorzain its his choice afterall but I really wish GSL would stop giving Foreigners seeds and let everyone work for his spot. The other tournament is many weeks after GSL so he has TIME to recoup. stop jumping to conclusions. | ||
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Norzma
Sweden160 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:48 sekritzzz wrote: For thorzain this is lacking class. Maybe he is sick but then again he said he's preparing for another tournament so I don't know how well that stands as an excuse? I don't fault thorzain its his choice afterall but I really wish GSL would stop giving Foreigners seeds and let everyone work for his spot. Europe WCS is in the end of september, his up&down matches is tomorrow. If you cant figure it out I cant be bothered to explain. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:57 BlitchizSC2 wrote: I can't believe reddit is more sensible than TL. This is a first. I think a lot of people missed the fact that he's sick and are just assuming he gave up on korea. Such a shame that he won't be playing but hopefully he'll get a shot again next season | ||
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:00 chipmonklord17 wrote: I think a lot of people missed the fact that he's sick and are just assuming he gave up on korea. Such a shame that he won't be playing but hopefully he'll get a shot again next season I think a lot of people don't read the thread. Reading too hard I guess. lolz | ||
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seiferoth10
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On August 28 2012 04:57 BlitchizSC2 wrote: I can't believe reddit is more sensible than TL. This is a first. Yup, this is what I'm getting from this thread. | ||
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Vapaach
Finland994 Posts
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:02 seiferoth10 wrote: Yup, this is what I'm getting from this thread. At first I had to make sure I was in the right tab; sadly I wasn't incorrect. Maybe its opposite day or something strange. Did I miss a memo? | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:03 Vapaach wrote: Does he still get to keep his code A spot? Yes. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
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a3den
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On August 28 2012 05:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote: I know it's not his fault but I wish GOM would stop giving away seeds, especially code s seeds. (yes I know it wasn't a code s seed) So you want no foreigner in GSL ? I don't see the point, it's good business for them, it attracts viewers. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Business wise, giving seeds to foreigners and kespa is the smartest choice for maximum views and profit margin for GOM. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
Get well soon ThorZaiN and gl at WCS. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:17 WolfintheSheep wrote: Apparently the real EG Curse is that everyone on the Teamliquid forums become complete assholes to you. It's how it always worked on the forums, put on a black shirt with the EG logo on it and you're satan. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Thorzain was eliminated last season in the round of 32. He became 3rd in the group after beating gumiho, so got a spot in the round of 32 of code a, which gives the right to a place in the up & down matches. No matter how you look at it, his place in u&d was no seed.I know it's not his fault but I wish GOM would stop giving away seeds, especially code s seeds. (yes I know it wasn't a code s seed) People have a short memory, or jump to conclusions véry quickly. On August 28 2012 05:17 WolfintheSheep wrote: sadly.Apparently the real EG Curse is that everyone on the Teamliquid forums become complete assholes to you. Maybe it's an idea to put in the op his illness atm and that his up & downplace was no seed, his up & down matches are tomorrow and that wcs will be the end of september. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:18 Fusilero wrote: It's how it always worked on the forums, put on a black shirt with the EG logo on it and you're satan. For some, maybe. I think several EG players are quite well-liked though (idra, incontrol, axslav etc). Also the shirts are dark blue not black right. | ||
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Batssa
United States154 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:17 WolfintheSheep wrote: Apparently the real EG Curse is that everyone on the Teamliquid forums become complete assholes to you. Yes, sadly thats the case, if an EG player can not attend to smth., he instantly "sold his soul" or some BS. I wonder how much hate T-ZaiN would have gotten, if he would be playing for Liquid. | ||
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eeyz
Canada39 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:23 Blazinghand wrote: For some, maybe. I think several EG players are quite well-liked though (idra, incontrol, axslav etc). Also the shirts are dark blue not black right. WHAT!? I always thought that they were black now I hate EG for breaking my heart like this. | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:27 Batssa wrote: Wha... I don't know? seemed pretty back and forth and now it's an EG handjob fest? Wha...? I guess sensibility = EG handjob fest now. I would tell you to take it to reddit, but they're actually doing better with this topic than we are. Keep your garbage here, I guess. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:17 WolfintheSheep wrote: Apparently the real EG Curse is that everyone on the Teamliquid forums become complete assholes to you. Yup. If they have the word "evil" in their name, they have to be evil, right? | ||
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Chargelot
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On August 28 2012 05:17 WolfintheSheep wrote: Apparently the real EG Curse is that everyone on the Teamliquid forums become complete assholes to you. No, see, it's completely reasonable that Thorzain, with tonsillitis, should be made to travel to Korea literally minutes after MLG Raleigh ends, and have his flight fly through a mother-fucking typhoon, all so that he could play in the Up and Down matches. This has nothing to do with EG. Everyone else is right, serious illness and natural disasters should not be enough to stop Thorzain from competing in the Up and Down matches. Also Mr. Chae Said: We have some additional news regarding the Up&Down matches. Because of a severe typhoon warning, the return of the Korean players who were attending MLG will be delayed. It is possible that we will have to adjust the schedule for the Up&Down matches on short notice, due to some players not being able to attend because of this natural disaster. We are currently in contact with the players in the US and will revise the schedule accordingly, if needed. How dare these other people stay in the US. | ||
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Theovide
Sweden914 Posts
, due to his sickness it was probably the only resonable decision, but still sucks to not see him in the up&downs. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:38 Chargelot wrote: No, see, it's completely reasonable that Thorzain, with tonsillitis, should be made to travel to Korea literally minutes after MLG Raleigh ends, and have his flight fly through a mother-fucking typhoon, all so that he could play in the Up and Down matches. This has nothing to do with EG. Everyone else is right, serious illness and natural disasters should not be enough to stop Thorzain from competing in the Up and Down matches. Serious illness is no excuse to skip out on your job ever. | ||
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Luisa_2
Germany200 Posts
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BBMorti
Denmark242 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:11 Yorbon wrote: Somewhat shocked by hate uncalled for in this thread. I wish you best of luck, thorzain, in wcs and code a! (i assume he goes to code as if he lost every match in up & down) I was shocked too for my first few months here. =/ | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:41 Luisa_2 wrote: Really sad to hear that, but seems like he's more into money at this point, regarding his excuse is to prep fpr WCS. I wish I could take you seriously, but you can't even type your malarkey correctly. At least make some attempt at reading the thread. He said there were a couple reasons, and that he would instead practice for WCS. He didn't say "I won't attend the Up and Down matches so that I may practice." Practicing for WCS is his fall back plan, instead of going to Korea for the Up and Down matches. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7297 Posts
Get better T-Zain, hope you do great in WCS EU. :-D :-D | ||
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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:06 HolydaKing wrote: Then why doesn't he say that? O_o I didn't know he's ill and now he says he's practising for another tour. Doesn't sound like he couldn't participate. @Groog: Yes, but you can prepare for all of them a little bit, no? If it makes sense or not is another thing. You didn't know it just because you were too filled with rage to read all the comments on even the first page here. That's not asking for much you know, the first page of the thread... Tonsillitis is a shitty fucking deal. I had a tonsillectomy as a kid but one of my buddies got tonsillitis in high school and he was totally outa commission for about two weeks. | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7297 Posts
Just going to leave that there for anyone who wants to tell Thorzain to just get over the tonsillitis. <3 The rest of us will support him in the next Code A and WCS EU. :-D | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:49 sam05396 wrote: doesnt make any sense to me unless he isnt in korea, even if he doesnt prepare for the matches at all, it is easily still worth a shot for code s he's not in korea. he was at MLG this weekend and is sick. He couldn't even play on friday and lost 0-2 to Puck when he tried to play on Saturday. | ||
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Fluffboll
Sweden516 Posts
Too bad you won't be attending the Up&Downs but it's completely understandable. To all the douchebags in this thread ->  | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:49 TheDougler wrote: You didn't know it just because you were too filled with rage to read all the comments on even the first page here. That's not asking for much you know, the first page of the thread... Tonsillitis is a shitty fucking deal. I had a tonsillectomy as a kid but one of my buddies got tonsillitis in high school and he was totally outa commission for about two weeks. I used to get tonsillitis like it was the frikin common cold... not fun at all. Got to the point where I had to get them taken out at the age of 20... even less fun. I do not envy him. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4838 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:41 ref4 wrote: was there a virus outbreak in Raliegh or something why did everyone got sick after MLG Air travel, minimal sleep, and a high-stress environment render the body vulnerable to sickness; contact with many other humans exposes the body to a lot of pathogens. (Including ones from other regions, that you're less likely to have any sort of built-up resistance to.) A lot of people probably get sick after long-weekend lans. | ||
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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HolydaKing
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On August 28 2012 05:49 TheDougler wrote: You didn't know it just because you were too filled with rage to read all the comments on even the first page here. That's not asking for much you know, the first page of the thread... Tonsillitis is a shitty fucking deal. I had a tonsillectomy as a kid but one of my buddies got tonsillitis in high school and he was totally outa commission for about two weeks. Nice accusation, but my first post was on the first page and no one said before that he's ill. And yeah i'm not an EG fan so i haven't seen any EG videos or specially looked for Thorzain at the MLG. I just feel like something about this could have been either in the OP or in Thorzain's announcement. edit: Although i knew something is wrong, because Thorzain is a nice person from what i've seen and it would've been quite a dick move to do it that late. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
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MrSexington
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 28 2012 06:01 Dosey wrote: I used to get tonsillitis like it was the frikin common cold... not fun at all. Got to the point where I had to get them taken out at the age of 20... even less fun. I do not envy him. yeah same thing happened with me, but i was 5 years old when that happened. still sucked. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 28 2012 06:11 HolydaKing wrote: Nice accusation, but my first post was on the first page and no one said before that he's ill. And yeah i'm not an EG fan so i haven't seen any EG videos or specially looked for Thorzain at the MLG. I just feel like something about this could have been either in the OP or in Thorzain's announcement. edit: Although i knew something is wrong, because Thorzain is a nice person from what i've seen and it would've been quite a dick move to do it that late. Thorzain was clearly trying to power on through and deal with tonsillitis. That is why he went to MGL, but was not able to play. It is clear that his ability to play is compromised by the tonsillitis. Also, infections in your face and near your glands are no joke. Although easily treated, that treatment assumes you are going to rest. Some of the complications for tonsillitis are dehydration and kidney failure. That is not stuff you fuck around with. There is no doctor in the world that is going to recommend 16 hour flights with dry, recycled air, jet lag and practice for 8 hours while trying to recover. | ||
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CamoPillbox
Czech Republic229 Posts
 health is important more .......... he gets another chance soon too i am sure.... | ||
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
MONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY User was warned for this post | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Germany1434 Posts
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
On August 28 2012 06:33 bucckevin wrote: I'm surprised that nobody has come out and blamed SlayerS yet since he was living in their training house. =p I'm surprised that nobody has blamed queen range yet ... or have they? | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
T-FUNK FIGHTING! <3 | ||
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
On August 28 2012 07:10 SoniC_eu wrote: All u ppl posting it's ridculous that he forfeits, should know that there must be a REALLY good reason for him doing so. Obviously he is sick or something, and he needs support not ppl saying "oh come on thorzain, just play the match". That's ridiculous. Why should he play when he is sick? Better to focus on getting better soon and then play at 100% at WCS. T-FUNK FIGHTING! <3 Sick is obvious, but very tired, it's ok? Just asking. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
Would have loved to see him back in code S | ||
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stangstang
Canada281 Posts
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Danzo
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Hey don't be aggressive man. Many people still played in the GSL and were sick. I'm not even mocking him...you need to chill out. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:39 TsGBruzze wrote: damn it now he better win the wcs eu!This sums up my thoughts exactly. I hope he crushes them EU nubs. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 28 2012 07:07 FrogOfWar wrote: I'm surprised that nobody has blamed queen range yet ... or have they? If T-Funk was a Kespa player, he'd have an immune system made of diamond-studded gold. Not only would he never be sick, he'd cure other people's illnesses and SCV all-ins merely by laying his spoon on their brow and giving them his Viking blessing. Also he'd bring back vultures. | ||
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Australia207 Posts
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United States1383 Posts
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On August 28 2012 05:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote: I know it's not his fault but I wish GOM would stop giving away seeds, especially code s seeds. (yes I know it wasn't a code s seed) I understand where you are coming from, but there is with them not giving seeds. In the past, GSL was THE tournament, so many of the best foreigners would go out to Korea and try to qualify. Now, the foreign scene is very well developed and there is much less of a need for foreigners to fight for months and earn no money when there is a lot of money outside Korea. These seeds are a way to mix in some of the best foreigners and give them an opportunity to earn a win at the world's most prestigious SC2 tournament. | ||
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Cornstarched
Canada74 Posts
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On August 28 2012 07:45 Cornstarched wrote: yaya go go id rather watch thorizane than in gsl, shit quality and bad times. People need to reolize, that the days of korean being the best dosnt matter anymore. More people than not like people like thorizane over pople like puma or koreans, with 0 personalliy as a viewer. We dont speak korean and they cant speak english so all we see is skill. Id rather watch less ksill but personality than all skill and some korean krackmusic in thebackground. MAINSTREAM=money. GG thorzane! high as fuck bro? | ||
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Brindled
United States508 Posts
On August 28 2012 07:45 Cornstarched wrote: yaya go go id rather watch thorizane than in gsl, shit quality and bad times. People need to reolize, that the days of korean being the best dosnt matter anymore. More people than not like people like thorizane over pople like puma or koreans, with 0 personalliy as a viewer. We dont speak korean and they cant speak english so all we see is skill. Id rather watch less ksill but personality than all skill and some korean krackmusic in thebackground. MAINSTREAM=money. GG thorzane! Wat the fuck did I just read? Fuuuuuck, my IQ dropped...I felt it. | ||
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virtu
United Kingdom147 Posts
On August 28 2012 07:45 Cornstarched wrote: yaya go go id rather watch thorizane than in gsl, shit quality and bad times. People need to reolize, that the days of korean being the best dosnt matter anymore. More people than not like people like thorizane over pople like puma or koreans, with 0 personalliy as a viewer. We dont speak korean and they cant speak english so all we see is skill. Id rather watch less ksill but personality than all skill and some korean krackmusic in thebackground. MAINSTREAM=money. GG thorzane! wow | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
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Gonff
United States686 Posts
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Mycl
Australia1370 Posts
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BgSBendeR
Canada170 Posts
They can't play it all the way through, which makes it look bad but the can get away with it. MC, Mvp leaving WCS for IEM in middle of tournament HerO leaving WCS for MLG and so on.. Main reason why I was siding with KesPA during the whole OSl boycott thing, at least they play in a tournament from start to finish.. | ||
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HoLe
Canada183 Posts
(Gordon Ramsay voice) "What a shame.." | ||
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Jepsyn
Canada364 Posts
On August 28 2012 07:45 Cornstarched wrote: yaya go go id rather watch thorizane than in gsl, shit quality and bad times. People need to reolize, that the days of korean being the best dosnt matter anymore. More people than not like people like thorizane over pople like puma or koreans, with 0 personalliy as a viewer. We dont speak korean and they cant speak english so all we see is skill. Id rather watch less ksill but personality than all skill and some korean krackmusic in thebackground. MAINSTREAM=money. GG thorzane! Umm What? ThorZaIN is one of my favorite players as well and this is probably ripping him apart to not be able to play. He is really sick(if you dont have your tonsils out young tonsilitis can really be a doozy) He talks about always wanting to compete in the very best top level tournaments and that's exactly what GSL is and whats with all the racism? The games are all cast in English by awesome casters What does it matter if the players cant speak English? | ||
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Rah
United States973 Posts
On August 28 2012 11:15 Mycl wrote: News on the grapevine was that this thread was particularly disgusting and it did not disappoint. Hoping for Tzain to fully recover and get back to the full swing of things for WCS Europe and maybe Code A Yea some of these reactions are pushing the boundries of human ignorance.. On that note, stay strong Thorzain, fight off dat EG curse. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 28 2012 11:27 Megaliskuu wrote: Were you people expecting him to play a day after he flys back to korea, and being sick? He can't fly back to Korea anyway, what with the weather. | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On August 28 2012 08:11 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote: pretty sad. gets offered a seat in gsl and forfeits it. =/ He got the seed last code s season he got third in his group which put him in code a r2 he then lost to JYP so he is put in up and down matches, he forfeit his spot in up and downs so he's back in code a now. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 28 2012 11:26 Headnoob wrote: He ain't getting into code s so it makes sense. He's been so sick he hasn't been able to talk for weeks, so it makes sense. That's what you should have said. | ||
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SayGen
United States1209 Posts
GSL is a long term tounry. Forgein tounrys are 1-3 day events and instant payouts. Also winning GSL as a forgeiner has never been done. GJ Thorzain going for the smart money. Nice to see someone with a brain. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
While at the lair he slept 14+ hours each day. Medicated (went to the doctor) drank warm tea and consumed as many healthy things as he possibly could. He did that for the week he was here. He went to MLG thinking he could recover in time but that wasn't the case. Traveling to korea and competing in the hardest league with an illness as severe as this is just plain dumb. He has WCS in a short chunk of time after that and travel takes a toll on your health so rather than indanger that event he bit the bullet on this one. Thorzain is a fucking warrior and he cares deeply for each opportunity he has. I can promise you.. everything possible was done to make him get healthy but he couldn't get there. Please send em some love as he is struggling both in health and emotion at the moment. | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
On August 28 2012 11:51 iNcontroL wrote: If anyone COULD have gotten healthy in any amount of time to make this it would have been thorzain. While at the lair he slept 14+ hours each day. Medicated (went to the doctor) drank warm tea and consumed as many healthy things as he possibly could. He did that for the week he was here. He went to MLG thinking he could recover in time but that wasn't the case. Traveling to korea and competing in the hardest league with an illness as severe as this is just plain dumb. He has WCS in a short chunk of time after that and travel takes a toll on your health so rather than indanger that event he bit the bullet on this one. Thorzain is a fucking warrior and he cares deeply for each opportunity he has. I can promise you.. everything possible was done to make him get healthy but he couldn't get there. Please send em some love as he is struggling both in health and emotion at the moment. You sir should know that the mob doesn't want a logical and reasonable explanation, it has no place in these forums....they want fire and pitchforks  Hope he gets better soon | ||
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HoLe
Canada183 Posts
On August 28 2012 11:51 iNcontroL wrote: If anyone COULD have gotten healthy in any amount of time to make this it would have been thorzain. While at the lair he slept 14+ hours each day. Medicated (went to the doctor) drank warm tea and consumed as many healthy things as he possibly could. He did that for the week he was here. He went to MLG thinking he could recover in time but that wasn't the case. Traveling to korea and competing in the hardest league with an illness as severe as this is just plain dumb. He has WCS in a short chunk of time after that and travel takes a toll on your health so rather than indanger that event he bit the bullet on this one. Thorzain is a fucking warrior and he cares deeply for each opportunity he has. I can promise you.. everything possible was done to make him get healthy but he couldn't get there. Please send em some love as he is struggling both in health and emotion at the moment. Any updates on the state of his health? What's wrong exactly? Anyone? | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
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On August 28 2012 11:51 iNcontroL wrote: If anyone COULD have gotten healthy in any amount of time to make this it would have been thorzain. While at the lair he slept 14+ hours each day. Medicated (went to the doctor) drank warm tea and consumed as many healthy things as he possibly could. He did that for the week he was here. He went to MLG thinking he could recover in time but that wasn't the case. Traveling to korea and competing in the hardest league with an illness as severe as this is just plain dumb. He has WCS in a short chunk of time after that and travel takes a toll on your health so rather than indanger that event he bit the bullet on this one. Thorzain is a fucking warrior and he cares deeply for each opportunity he has. I can promise you.. everything possible was done to make him get healthy but he couldn't get there. Please send em some love as he is struggling both in health and emotion at the moment. Thanks for this. I'm sorry for T-Funk's sake (god I love that nickname) that this is the worst thread on the site. | ||
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Mortal
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On August 28 2012 11:51 iNcontroL wrote: If anyone COULD have gotten healthy in any amount of time to make this it would have been thorzain. While at the lair he slept 14+ hours each day. Medicated (went to the doctor) drank warm tea and consumed as many healthy things as he possibly could. He did that for the week he was here. He went to MLG thinking he could recover in time but that wasn't the case. Traveling to korea and competing in the hardest league with an illness as severe as this is just plain dumb. He has WCS in a short chunk of time after that and travel takes a toll on your health so rather than indanger that event he bit the bullet on this one. Thorzain is a fucking warrior and he cares deeply for each opportunity he has. I can promise you.. everything possible was done to make him get healthy but he couldn't get there. Please send em some love as he is struggling both in health and emotion at the moment. Glad someone decided to give Thorzain's side of it. I think we can all agree that it would've been ridiculous to go through with it under conditions that extreme. Hope he gets better soon! | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 28 2012 12:05 Dispersion wrote: It makes sense...he doesn't feel quite ready to go up to the highest level yet and wants to focus on a world championship. No. | ||
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khaydarin9
Australia423 Posts
On August 28 2012 11:29 Rah wrote: Yea some of these reactions are pushing the boundries of human ignorance. Welcome to the internet - where human ignorance has no boundaries! Hope he gets better soon. Take it easy, man. | ||
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fAnTaCy
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On August 28 2012 12:12 Enzymatic wrote: Why wouldn't he cite "health complications" in his announcement? Not doing so just makes him look sketchy and unprofessional. It wasn't an official announcement or anything like that, just Thorzain letting people know that he wouldn't be able to compete via his twitter. Of course if you wanted context for his tweet you could look at his recent tweets which include: 26 Aug Marcus Eklöf @EGThorZaIN I tried to play my losers bracket match after forfeiting wb due to being sick but i lost 0-2 vs root puck. At least i tried. 24 Aug Marcus Eklöf @EGThorZaIN I have some bad news to all my fans. Due to being sick in tonsillitis i wont compete at #mlg raleigh. | ||
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StarStruck
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On August 28 2012 11:51 iNcontroL wrote: If anyone COULD have gotten healthy in any amount of time to make this it would have been thorzain. While at the lair he slept 14+ hours each day. Medicated (went to the doctor) drank warm tea and consumed as many healthy things as he possibly could. He did that for the week he was here. He went to MLG thinking he could recover in time but that wasn't the case. Traveling to korea and competing in the hardest league with an illness as severe as this is just plain dumb. He has WCS in a short chunk of time after that and travel takes a toll on your health so rather than indanger that event he bit the bullet on this one. Thorzain is a fucking warrior and he cares deeply for each opportunity he has. I can promise you.. everything possible was done to make him get healthy but he couldn't get there. Please send em some love as he is struggling both in health and emotion at the moment. Perfectly logical. All I knew is he wasn't feeling well at all this weekend and I actually like players prioritizing events. There is nothing wrong with resting and there is nothing wrong with missing a few events here and there to rest and practice so when they show up. They're ready to go. | ||
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cactusjack914
United States183 Posts
Very unprofessional imo Yea man, getting sick is really unprofessional. Who the hell do you guys think you are honestly? "so unprofessional" Seriously, do you guys know anything about being professional or even know what the word means? Are you aware of how many SC tournaments there are a year? Dropping out of one due to illness isnt unprofessional (not to mention this is only the UD matches), and dropping and not citing its because you are ill isnt being unprofessional either. Thorzain has NO obligations to you guys. And if the future of you watching starcraft depends on whether or not players will release every part of their life to you, you might as well just stop now. The future of Esports doesn't depend on stuff like this guys. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On August 28 2012 12:09 khaydarin9 wrote: Welcome to the internet - where human ignorance has no boundaries! Hope he gets better soon. Take it easy, man. Eh, when I see Tebow win a championship with a broken leg, Romo playing a game with a pierced lung, and Leftwich playing with a broken Tibia it just makes me kind of shrug when someone says they can't play a video game because they're sick. Also the saying you're going to focus on WCS practice instead is just insulting to the GSL. GSL is the most prestigious tournament in the world and was kind enough to give you the privilege of playing in their league. Did he even try to get it rescheduled? | ||
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Majynx
United States1431 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:12 xrapture wrote: Eh, when I see Tebow win a championship with a broken leg, Romo playing a game with a pierced lung, and Leftwich playing with a broken Tibia it just makes me kind of shrug when someone says they can't play a video game because they're sick. Also the saying you're going to focus on WCS practice instead is just insulting to the GSL. GSL is the most prestigious tournament in the world and was kind enough to give you the privilege of playing in their league. Did he even try to get it rescheduled? Yes, because playing in GSL while sick is totally gonna help him win that Code S spot instead of getting better so he can move on to another tournament... Furthermore, is he really going to "respect" GSL by going to Mokdong Studio sick and not at his best? As you said GSL is the most prestigious tournament in the world, with the best players. If you're going to play in GSL, you had damn well better be at your 100% best. Playing while sick and therefore not showing your best is even more insulting than not showing up. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. Way to be an ass. GL and I know you know whats best for you Thorzain. | ||
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ramask2
Thailand1024 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:12 xrapture wrote: Eh, when I see Tebow win a championship with a broken leg, Romo playing a game with a pierced lung, and Leftwich playing with a broken Tibia it just makes me kind of shrug when someone says they can't play a video game because they're sick. Also the saying you're going to focus on WCS practice instead is just insulting to the GSL. GSL is the most prestigious tournament in the world and was kind enough to give you the privilege of playing in their league. Did he even try to get it rescheduled? On the contrary, Thorzain going to GSL to play in this condition WOULD have been insulting to GSL. He doesn't want to show sloppy games in such a prestigious league. | ||
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boretusmax
Finland75 Posts
PS. saying unprofessional should be bannable offense, that word get misused all the time. | ||
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sdecker32
United States38 Posts
Eh, when I see Tebow win a championship with a broken leg, Romo playing a game with a pierced lung, and Leftwich playing with a broken Tibia it just makes me kind of shrug when someone says they can't play a video game because they're sick. Also the saying you're going to focus on WCS practice instead is just insulting to the GSL. GSL is the most prestigious tournament in the world and was kind enough to give you the privilege of playing in their league. Did he even try to get it rescheduled? This is real real dumb. Pro football players have litterally one obligation, to the NFL. Thorzian has multiple obligations, and they involve things like flying across the world. If he is very very sick, so sick that he couldn't compete at a tournament where he was physically located, it does not make sense for him to fly across the world to play in another tournament. He also owes it to his team to get well as soon as possible to represent them/their sponsers in other events. It helps no one if prolongs his recovery and plays badly in everything. Also, those guys get paid millions of millions of dollars. Your analogy is terrible. Also, as many people have pointed out, he was not seeded into up and downs, he was placed after his Code S performance last season. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:12 xrapture wrote: Eh, when I see Tebow win a championship with a broken leg, Romo playing a game with a pierced lung, and Leftwich playing with a broken Tibia it just makes me kind of shrug when someone says they can't play a video game because they're sick. Also the saying you're going to focus on WCS practice instead is just insulting to the GSL. GSL is the most prestigious tournament in the world and was kind enough to give you the privilege of playing in their league. Did he even try to get it rescheduled? The EG hate is strong in this one. And when i see teams resting their star players who are perfectly healthy before the playoffs I will pretend they are too injured to play. Why would Thorzain fly to Korea while sick to play in Up and Down matches making his condition even worse for the WCS? WCS is bigger and more important than GSL. No different than teams taking the last game of the season off like they do every year if possible. And even if Thorzain wanted to get to Korea in time, he couldn't. There is a typhoon going on right now, hence why all the Koreans were at the twitch offices in San Francisco today. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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hagrin
United States278 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:35 sdecker32 wrote: This is real real dumb. Pro football players have litterally one obligation, to the NFL. Thorzian has multiple obligations, and they involve things like flying across the world. If he is very very sick, so sick that he couldn't compete at a tournament where he was physically located, it does not make sense for him to fly across the world to play in another tournament. He also owes it to his team to get well as soon as possible to represent them/their sponsers in other events. It helps no one if prolongs his recovery and plays badly in everything. Also, those guys get paid millions of millions of dollars. Your analogy is terrible. Also, as many people have pointed out, he was not seeded into up and downs, he was placed after his Code S performance last season. Total fucking nonsense. My sister-in-law who was 24 was going for cancer treatments for stage 2A lymphoma ... and then teaching for 8 hours a day just so she could make sure she got tenure in a highly competitive teaching market (NYC grade school). For lunch, she would go puke her brains out in the bathroom. Seriously, go fuck yourself - your post is insulting to anyone who's actually been seriously ill and still had to grind at adult life. User was warned for this post | ||
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. If not mistaken ThorZaIN is ill at the moment (Atleast he got ill at MLG), so probably he could use his day of the U/D matches to try and qualify, which probably won't work, because he is ill, and wasn't able to practise most likely. OR he could use this day to rest a little more and recover a bit, and perhaps a bit of practise. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:03 hagrin wrote: Total fucking nonsense. My sister-in-law who was 24 was going for cancer treatments for stage 2A lymphoma ... and then teaching for 8 hours a day just so she could make sure she got tenure in a highly competitive teaching market (NYC grade school). For lunch, she would go puke her brains out in the bathroom. Seriously, go fuck yourself - your post is insulting to anyone who's actually been seriously ill and still had to grind at adult life. ok... what does this have to do with Thorzain? Its a completely different situation. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:03 hagrin wrote: Total fucking nonsense. My sister-in-law who was 24 was going for cancer treatments for stage 2A lymphoma ... and then teaching for 8 hours a day just so she could make sure she got tenure in a highly competitive teaching market (NYC grade school). For lunch, she would go puke her brains out in the bathroom. Seriously, go fuck yourself - your post is insulting to anyone who's actually been seriously ill and still had to grind at adult life. If ThorZain's career and livelihood depended on him making it in GSL I would see your point. But it's not, it much worse off for him if he prolongs his tonsilitis and plays poorly in BOTH GSL and WCS. It sucks your aunt had it bad, but that is irrelevant to ThorZain's situation.. | ||
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:03 hagrin wrote: Total fucking nonsense. My sister-in-law who was 24 was going for cancer treatments for stage 2A lymphoma ... and then teaching for 8 hours a day just so she could make sure she got tenure in a highly competitive teaching market (NYC grade school). For lunch, she would go puke her brains out in the bathroom. Seriously, go fuck yourself - your post is insulting to anyone who's actually been seriously ill and still had to grind at adult life. Seriously don't go all crazy about his post. He is saying that in ThorZaINs situation he shouldn't travel all over the world while being ill, simply because there is nothing to gain, there is nothing to win in this case. How could that be insulting for anyone, he doesn't say its impossible he says its doesnt make sense to do so! | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:03 hagrin wrote: Total fucking nonsense. My sister-in-law who was 24 was going for cancer treatments for stage 2A lymphoma ... and then teaching for 8 hours a day just so she could make sure she got tenure in a highly competitive teaching market (NYC grade school). For lunch, she would go puke her brains out in the bathroom. Seriously, go fuck yourself - your post is insulting to anyone who's actually been seriously ill and still had to grind at adult life. So Thorzain doesn't want to sacrifice his health and well-being for one tournament in the year, so that makes him the scum of the earth, right? Your post is insulting to human decency. Rising above and beyond is a trait that deserves praising, not an expectation that gives you excuses to shit over the rest of the world. So, as you so aptly said, go fuck yourself. User was warned for this post | ||
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
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Canada16217 Posts
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ramask2
Thailand1024 Posts
Just look at his past record. Thorzain at one point this year was traveling between MLG, GSL and Dreamhack in the span of a single week. Heck, even he tried playing at this past MLG while being half dead! (and lost to root.Puck) He wants to compete in tournaments. Just trust in the guy. He's the last person in the world who wants to forfeit this tournament. | ||
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aviator116
United States820 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:03 hagrin wrote: Total fucking nonsense. My sister-in-law who was 24 was going for cancer treatments for stage 2A lymphoma ... and then teaching for 8 hours a day just so she could make sure she got tenure in a highly competitive teaching market (NYC grade school). For lunch, she would go puke her brains out in the bathroom. Seriously, go fuck yourself - your post is insulting to anyone who's actually been seriously ill and still had to grind at adult life. Good fucking god, what an asshole He's saying that Thorzain has absolutely NOTHING to gain by going to Korea. I'm sorry about your sister-in-law and all, but in all honesty, go fuck yourself. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:03 hagrin wrote: Total fucking nonsense. My sister-in-law who was 24 was going for cancer treatments for stage 2A lymphoma ... and then teaching for 8 hours a day just so she could make sure she got tenure in a highly competitive teaching market (NYC grade school). For lunch, she would go puke her brains out in the bathroom. Seriously, go fuck yourself - your post is insulting to anyone who's actually been seriously ill and still had to grind at adult life. Way to post a idiotic response about a situation that is entirely unrelated to Thorzains. Sorry about your sister-in-law, I really am. But can you please try to explain why Thorzain should risk his recovery by wasting energy on this tournament. Because there are other people in the world that are in a worse spot? That argument is about as hollow as the "eat your food, the children in Africa are starving"-bullshit that people tell children... Everyone should try to make the best out of their situation, not to make their situation shittier so that everyone has to go through an equal amount of shit. Best of luck to Thorzain in the future, hope you get well soon! | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Rah
United States973 Posts
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TheEmulator
28089 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. typical TL gsl only relevant tournament everything else is for scrubs attitude | ||
Waxangel
United States33388 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:58 sixfour wrote: typical TL gsl only relevant tournament everything else is for scrubs attitude damn right :O but I'm sure thorzain had a good reason | ||
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
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Celimas
United States75 Posts
Get well soon Thorzain, can't wait to see you in WCS and Code A!! Also, personally I've gotta blame the EG curse for this one. | ||
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Evangelist
1246 Posts
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:42 Shinespark wrote: I don't think koreans bother to prepare for foreigners except Stephano right now. But yeah, forfeiting this close to the match is absurd. Come on, Thorzain. If you dont know why something happens, please shut the hell up until you've found out more about the situation... Get well Thorzain! | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:39 GumBa wrote: Seed a Kespa Pro! ;P LOL. Yes please. Flash! | ||
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Becuula
Germany65 Posts
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:58 sixfour wrote: typical TL gsl only relevant tournament everything else is for scrubs attitude Well, GSL (and not OSL) /are/ the only top tournaments, yes :-P That being said, it doesn't change the fact that ThorZain seems to have a rather good reason to forfeit his seed. I don't recall people giving Boxer shit when he withdrew... Heck, ForGG and GanZi forfeited Code A because they didn't feel like participating and people didn't complain. Feels like foreigners are sometime held to a higher standard on TL. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:58 sixfour wrote: typical TL gsl only relevant tournament everything else is for scrubs attitude Um.... of course lol, wtf? Mvp's recent IEM where he beat a bunch of foreigners and won is not even comparable to any of his GSL wins.. | ||
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MicroTastiC
375 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 29 2012 00:40 MicroTastiC wrote: wow. someone more deserving couldve taken up the spot. so disrespectful.. Tonsilitis is disrespectful now? I don't know if you've ever had it but I think I was in bed for a while when that sprang up on me. I could barely move around the house, let alone play any video games on regular capacity. | ||
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ramask2
Thailand1024 Posts
On August 29 2012 00:40 MicroTastiC wrote: wow. someone more deserving couldve taken up the spot. so disrespectful.. ........wow. Can't you just try to respect Thorzain enough to try to understand his position? The guy's dead sick for god's sake. Thorzain, if you're reading this, for every one of these kinds of hater, please know that there are at least thousands more of your supporters. I'll be cheering for you in WCS Europe and next GSL. | ||
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
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Sikly
United States413 Posts
GL Thorzain, focus on your health first! | ||
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Silencioseu
Cyprus493 Posts
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On August 28 2012 23:01 Fischbacher wrote: Well, GSL (and not OSL) /are/ the only top tournaments, yes :-P That being said, it doesn't change the fact that ThorZain seems to have a rather good reason to forfeit his seed. I don't recall people giving Boxer shit when he withdrew... Heck, ForGG and GanZi forfeited Code A because they didn't feel like participating and people didn't complain. Feels like foreigners are sometime held to a higher standard on TL. Perhaps because the people you mentioned earned their seeds, Thorzain got one for free because he's a foreigner. I'm sure he had his reasons, but it's a bit sad to deny such a spot...now some korean dude doesn't have it :/ | ||
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Chrisje
Netherlands29 Posts
Not sure if some people are trolling because it's really ridiculous to have the nerve that you know what he's going through. Obviously he hasn't got something like cancer or whatever, but think about it, why would you fly to Korea when you're really ill/ not fit, to then go up against some really skilled Koreans who are on the top of their game when you're not in mental or physical shape. What will happen is that he will fuck up there because regardless if he's sick or not he will have a hard time, don't really get why it would make any sense to go there because you WILL NOT preform how you normally would. Finally it also has ZERO to do with being unprofessional or disrespect to GOM because he simply cannot preform in his current state, please give me one reason why it would be unprofessional or disrespectful to choose to not play when you're in bad shape. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:58 sixfour wrote: typical TL gsl only relevant tournament everything else is for scrubs attitude TL is correct. | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
I could understand if he dropped out of GSL, I could understand if he was given a Code S seed and then forfied that before his match. But look at it this way, in his current state even if he showed up he wasn't going to win and he would have fallen to Code A. Nothing was lost, he is ending up where he would have ended up if he tried to show up and play. Let's be honest you don't have to look much further than his MLG performance to know the guy is really just hurting. Trying to do any job feeling that ill is near impossible. I actually think it would have been worse to show up and play horrible, talk about disrespectful. Everyone waking up early just to watch him lose. So I guess TL;DR - Isn't he ending up in the same spot he would have even if he attended? He isn't taking anything FROM someone, and he isn't giving up what he didn't already have costing someone else a spot. | ||
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Norzma
Sweden160 Posts
On August 29 2012 00:40 MicroTastiC wrote: wow. someone more deserving couldve taken up the spot. so disrespectful.. I hope you dont get sick, because then you are taking up a spot at your job, so disrespectful x) | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On August 29 2012 02:57 Norzma wrote: I hope you dont get sick, because then you are taking up a spot at your job, so disrespectful x) I wonder if Jaedong would forfeit a tournament spot if he were sick...it's just the spirit of the thing that people are pissed at. Like, just the word "forfeit" doesn't register with some pro gamers, haha. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 29 2012 13:39 mierin wrote: I wonder if Jaedong would forfeit a tournament spot if he were sick...it's just the spirit of the thing that people are pissed at. Like, just the word "forfeit" doesn't register with some pro gamers, haha. I wonder if Jaedong would run a Spartan race if he'd had three limbs amputated. Probably not, because he's a TOTAL WUSS. | ||
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Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
So sad for my favorite Swede, gogo recover and go with the flow once again | ||
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sdecker32
United States38 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:03 hagrin wrote: Total fucking nonsense. My sister-in-law who was 24 was going for cancer treatments for stage 2A lymphoma ... and then teaching for 8 hours a day just so she could make sure she got tenure in a highly competitive teaching market (NYC grade school). For lunch, she would go puke her brains out in the bathroom. Seriously, go fuck yourself - your post is insulting to anyone who's actually been seriously ill and still had to grind at adult life. User was warned for this post You are misunderstanding my post. Sometimes in life you have to suffer greatly to get what you want/need. However, there is no point in putting yourself in a bad situation in which you will perform badly for very little gain. I would make this analogy - You are supposed to participate in a presentation at work but are very sick(to the point were you cannot see yourself doing any type of good job), and so you decide to stay home and get better so that you can show up the next day(rather than being out all week). Sure, you not showing up does hurt the presentation, but it will still go on as yours was only a medium to small(1/5 in this case) part of the whole. Good luck to your sister. | ||
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HoLe
Canada183 Posts
On August 28 2012 11:44 SayGen wrote: WCS is more important. GSL is a long term tounry. Forgein tounrys are 1-3 day events and instant payouts. Also winning GSL as a forgeiner has never been done. GJ Thorzain going for the smart money. Nice to see someone with a brain. This. He's done it before. And of course it'll give him time to recover his health. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
goms never gonna stop giving seeds its a really good business for them. I mean, think of how many viewers they can attract from giving out seeds to big names like stephano and naniwa (which he already got and maintained ). I, for one, do strongly agree with gom giving out seeds because its way more entertaining to watch koreans vs foreigners than just koreans vs koreans. | ||
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Evangelist
1246 Posts
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
Hope Thorzain recovers and gets back to his best!!! | ||
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On August 29 2012 13:39 mierin wrote: I wonder if Jaedong would forfeit a tournament spot if he were sick...it's just the spirit of the thing that people are pissed at. Like, just the word "forfeit" doesn't register with some pro gamers, haha. Well, if he had to fly half way around the world for the tournament... probably? KeSPA wouldn't let him go, anyway | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On August 29 2012 13:39 mierin wrote: I wonder if Jaedong would forfeit a tournament spot if he were sick...it's just the spirit of the thing that people are pissed at. Like, just the word "forfeit" doesn't register with some pro gamers, haha. .. If he was sick, and needed to fly through a typhoon literally hours after ending a tournament, at which he could barely play because of his illness? Yes. He would forfeit. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On August 29 2012 01:30 Andr3 wrote: Perhaps because the people you mentioned earned their seeds, Thorzain got one for free because he's a foreigner. I'm sure he had his reasons, but it's a bit sad to deny such a spot...now some korean dude doesn't have it :/ But he didn't get a seed into the up/downs. He didn't accept a seed and forfeit after that. He got there by falling from code S but not in last in his group. Sure he was seeded in code S but these up/downs were not a seed he could for go. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
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KazmA
United States117 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Croxter
Sweden39 Posts
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
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vinsang1000
Belgium365 Posts
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agh39
Sweden180 Posts
http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=224214&cid=0&kind=8 | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:03 agh39 wrote: ThorZaIN doesn't play in code A next season. http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=224214&cid=0&kind=8 Why would you not take such a great change of proving yourself among the best. Also, Code A starts after WCS EU | ||
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agh39
Sweden180 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:09 WindWolf wrote: Why would you not take such a great change of proving yourself among the best. Also, Code A starts after WCS EUI think it is the punishment from GomTV for not showing up when sick.. | ||
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
I dont believe gom would underhandedly punish him just for being sick on the other side of the world and missing a qualifier. | ||
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ramask2
Thailand1024 Posts
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
Quite embarrassing how people are quick to draw conclusions based on their own stupidity and lack of checking up facts. | ||
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Gben592
United Kingdom281 Posts
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:25 Gben592 wrote: GL ThorZain! + There actually isn't really much hate in this thread tbh ^^ :D :D Well even if it isn't that much hate it's still really weird considering how insanely mannered ThorZaIN is. He doesn't deserve any kind of hate ever tbh. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:25 Gben592 wrote: GL ThorZain! + There actually isn't really much hate in this thread tbh ^^ :D :D Probably the fact he got a bug and he rather focus on WCS for whatever personal reason. Should be much easier to get a better result there though. GOM's response is nothing strange either. If the player gives up his spot then he doesn't deserve to comeback in a similar position. They would have to re-earn it just like the other guys who forfeited. | ||
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agh39
Sweden180 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
Suck it up. | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 02 2012 07:02 TRaFFiC wrote: Sigh, another foreigner afraid to compete in Korea. I don't get it. Korea is best place to improve. Suck it up. so afraid to compete in Korea that he's done it twice? come on now. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On September 02 2012 07:02 TRaFFiC wrote: Sigh, another foreigner afraid to compete in Korea. I don't get it. Korea is best place to improve. Suck it up. Yeah we as fans know better than Thorzain what's best for him. After all maximum player skill is most entertaining for the fans, therefore Thorzain must practice in Korean. Also, very few foreigners have commented how miserable, depressing and lonely it is to live in a team house and practice for 10 hours a day with people who don't speak English. Fans' judgment of player passion outweighs players' personal judgment of their own emotional health. I'm pretty impressed with my logic there. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On September 02 2012 07:02 TRaFFiC wrote: Sigh, another foreigner afraid to compete in Korea. I don't get it. Korea is best place to improve. Suck it up. Alright then, next month move to country for an entire year where the language and culture is alien to you, for minimal pay. Oh yes, you might not have a stable place to stay either (now that the Slayers-EG partnership is over). It's easy to forget how much commitment and a challenge traveling across the world long-term is. | ||
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shadowrunner99
Belarus93 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On September 02 2012 07:22 Bagration wrote: Alright then, next month move to country for an entire year where the language and culture is alien to you, for minimal pay. Oh yes, you might not have a stable place to stay either (now that the Slayers-EG partnership is over). It's easy to forget how much commitment and a challenge traveling across the world long-term is. Moving abroad is overrated. All pro gamers have to travel a lot and I bet the majority of them are used to it. Sounds like a comment from someone who has never left their back yard. I've lived in 4 different countries. Adjusting is easy and fun. On September 02 2012 07:19 Doodsmack wrote: Yeah we as fans know better than Thorzain what's best for him. After all maximum player skill is most entertaining for the fans, therefore Thorzain must practice in Korean. Also, very few foreigners have commented how miserable, depressing and lonely it is to live in a team house and practice for 10 hours a day with people who don't speak English. Fans' judgment of player passion outweighs players' personal judgment of their own emotional health. I'm pretty impressed with my logic there. Many players don't know what's best for them. They follow the easy money, but should also think long term. I remember when Sheth left Korea and his results have been lacking ever since + I have no respect for someone who throws away an opportunity like that. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On September 02 2012 06:53 agh39 wrote: StarStruck: So if you get sick and have to stay home to get better, you dont deserve to get back to work, its that what you are saying? It's not the same fucking thing. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On September 02 2012 07:44 TRaFFiC wrote: Moving abroad is overrated. All pro gamers have to travel a lot and I bet the majority of them are used to it. Sounds like a comment from someone who has never left their back yard. I've lived in 4 different countries. Adjusting is easy and fun. Many players don't know what's best for them. They follow the easy money, but should also think long term. I remember when Sheth left Korea and his results have been lacking ever since + I have no respect for someone who throws away an opportunity like that. It's a bit condescending of you to claim that progamers' decision hinges on easy money, and they "don't know what's best for themselves", while completely ignoring the mental health reasons. You actually didn't even address the point of my post which was about the mental health reasons, but instead insinuated that anyone who claims mental health is really just chasing easy money. Again it's condescending and oddly harsh. It's also inaccurate to claim that international tournaments are "easy money". | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On September 02 2012 07:44 TRaFFiC wrote: Moving abroad is overrated. All pro gamers have to travel a lot and I bet the majority of them are used to it. Sounds like a comment from someone who has never left their back yard. I've lived in 4 different countries. Adjusting is easy and fun. Many players don't know what's best for them. They follow the easy money, but should also think long term. I remember when Sheth left Korea and his results have been lacking ever since + I have no respect for someone who throws away an opportunity like that. This is... I dont know what to call it. It seems like you think you know better whats good for Thorzain than the guy himself? ahaha, you made a joke of yourself :D Also, Sheth was really really really unhappy in Korea and his results are not particularly lacking, I think he does a good job in team leagues and is overall a good zerg player. Also about the whole 'good for someone'-thing: has it ever occured to you, that there are things more important than giving everything you have to your job? | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:37 xrapture wrote: Sigh, why did he bother taking it and wasting our time? Now that seed is vacated. Stupid and selfish. Yes after all, Pro players are our bitches, right? /sarcasm Seriously dude,you are the one who is selfish. | ||
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