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On August 25 2012 03:49 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 03:46 bearhug wrote:On August 24 2012 22:16 pencil_ethics wrote:
Right now the prevailing opinion in the Korean community is "Don't fall for KeSPA's bull****, this is how the GOMTV Classic got wiped off the face of the planet; since they're not participating in this season's GSL, keep the Federation out of this season's Starleague".
Nobody trusts KeSPA over there, whether they are Brood War fans or StarCraft II fans. Are you sure? or just you do not trust? I can vouch for him. Just make yourself an account in any of the korean community sites and ask what they think of KeSPa. They will answer you the best can with their broken english. Most will just say "fucking kespa" though.
Korean forums have forever been a cesspool of rage. Korean netizen translations often were a source of amusement on TeamLiquid reports.
It is hardly an objectce source of information or evidence.
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haha kespa, pussys!
in all seriousness, thank fucking god. for the sake of Kespa's name they can't afford to pull this shit anymore.
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On August 25 2012 04:06 VManOfMana wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 03:49 JiPrime wrote:On August 25 2012 03:46 bearhug wrote:On August 24 2012 22:16 pencil_ethics wrote:
Right now the prevailing opinion in the Korean community is "Don't fall for KeSPA's bull****, this is how the GOMTV Classic got wiped off the face of the planet; since they're not participating in this season's GSL, keep the Federation out of this season's Starleague".
Nobody trusts KeSPA over there, whether they are Brood War fans or StarCraft II fans. Are you sure? or just you do not trust? I can vouch for him. Just make yourself an account in any of the korean community sites and ask what they think of KeSPa. They will answer you the best can with their broken english. Most will just say "fucking kespa" though. Korean forums have forever been a cesspool of rage. Korean netizen translations often were a source of amusement on TeamLiquid reports. It is hardly an objectce source of information or evidence.
As a Korean, I admit, our online community is very emotional and extremely volatile. But they are the voice that matters to KeSPA, not foreigners. Believe me, I don't like that fact as much as you do. I really wish they follow the example of nice stable community like here.
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kespa is starting to seem like a terrible waste of time.
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On August 25 2012 04:12 Grampz wrote:
haha kespa, pussys!
in all seriousness, thank fucking god. for the sake of Kespa's name they can't afford to pull this shit anymore.
Is this even allowed?
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On August 24 2012 22:17 OminouS wrote:
What a circus. I hope everything works out well in the end.
Same, but you never know with KeSPA -_-;;;
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I'm a BW fan over and over but this has gotten me a bit confused.
KeSPA has long known to sort of bully in BW but I don't think they are able to do this anymore. Even if KeSPA players draw the crowds in general, they cannot power play anymore, it will hurt the scene more then anything. I feel like ESF might have done something bad too...
Couldn't they have just been the bigger people in this and kept their players in the OSL to prove a point? They withdraw isn't that the same conclusion?
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On August 25 2012 04:18 Seraphic wrote:
I'm a BW fan over and over but this has gotten me a bit confused.
KeSPA has long known to sort of bully in BW but I don't think they are able to do this anymore. Even if KeSPA players draw the crowds in general, they cannot power play anymore, it will hurt the scene more then anything. I feel like ESF might have done something bad too...
Couldn't they have just been the bigger people in this and kept their players in the OSL to prove a point? They withdraw isn't that the same conclusion?
No because that's exactly what KeSPA wanted them to do; not withdraw and just let themselves be pushed around.
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On August 25 2012 04:18 Seraphic wrote:
I'm a BW fan over and over but this has gotten me a bit confused.
KeSPA has long known to sort of bully in BW but I don't think they are able to do this anymore. Even if KeSPA players draw the crowds in general, they cannot power play anymore, it will hurt the scene more then anything. I feel like ESF might have done something bad too...
Couldn't they have just been the bigger people in this and kept their players in the OSL to prove a point? They withdraw isn't that the same conclusion?
let them play and let gomtv die? hell no
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On August 25 2012 04:12 Grampz wrote:
haha kespa, pussys!
in all seriousness, thank fucking god. for the sake of Kespa's name they can't afford to pull this shit anymore.
I think at this point, even they know that their rep is beyond recoverable. Koreans made their displeasure completely clear in the past whenever KeSPa fucked up like this, but they couldn't really do much because there was only KeSPA who even bothered to keep the scene going at the time. ;_;
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GOM isn't going to die, simply because Blizzard is there now to prevent KeSPA from doing whatever the hell they want.
They pull out of OSL is just the same as what KeSPA did with GSL Season 4. If they continue to do this, it's going to turn into BW all over again with the bad blood between the 2.
This is a massive crap shoot.
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On August 25 2012 04:25 Seraphic wrote:
GOM isn't going to die, simply because Blizzard is there now to prevent KeSPA from doing whatever the hell they want.
They pull out of OSL is just the same as what KeSPA did with GSL Season 4. If they continue to do this, it's going to turn into BW all over again with the bad blood between the 2.
This is a massive crap shoot.
They won't go out of business, but they will always be treated as "That other league" or worse, even considered as an amateur prizefight if KeSPA is left unchecked. As an avid supporter of GOM, I won't have that. Either both are playing on an even field or fuck everything.
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I do not like what Kespa is doing, lots of unnecessary drama they produce.
If those are mind games, it almost looks like they want to take over the SC2 community and get rid of GOM.
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On August 25 2012 04:30 yungSC2 wrote:
It almost looks like they want to take over the SC2 community and get rid of GOM.
Not almost. Why wouldn't they want to? They did it in BW.
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On August 25 2012 04:30 yungSC2 wrote:
I do not like what Kespa is doing, lots of unnecessary drama they produce.
If those are mind games, it almost looks like they want to take over the SC2 community and get rid of GOM.
whoaaaa now let's not be hasty man
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On August 25 2012 04:25 Seraphic wrote:
They pull out of OSL is just the same as what KeSPA did with GSL Season 4. If they continue to do this, it's going to turn into BW all over again with the bad blood between the 2.
No, because the OS2L is already in progress. There's a difference between saying ahead of time that you won't go to a league and messing up a league in the middle of it by taking half of the players out.
On August 25 2012 04:29 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:25 Seraphic wrote:
GOM isn't going to die, simply because Blizzard is there now to prevent KeSPA from doing whatever the hell they want.
They pull out of OSL is just the same as what KeSPA did with GSL Season 4. If they continue to do this, it's going to turn into BW all over again with the bad blood between the 2.
This is a massive crap shoot. They won't go out of business, but they will always be treated as "That other league" or worse, even considered as an amateur prizefight if KeSPA is left unchecked. As an avid supporter of GOM, I won't have that. Either both are playing on an even field or fuck everything.
Why do they have to be on an even field? They're competitors.
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On August 25 2012 04:25 Seraphic wrote:
GOM isn't going to die, simply because Blizzard is there now to prevent KeSPA from doing whatever the hell they want.
They pull out of OSL is just the same as what KeSPA did with GSL Season 4.
Not remotely. It would be grotesque sabotage of a competition that's already underway, and frankly it would be more than enough reason to ban the offenders from OSL for life.
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I started to watch the recent SPL and kind of showing some interests in it. However, this whole Kespa's move against GOMTV/GSL is disgusting. Kespa acts like a dictator in Korean SC community. I hope their team and individual were denied by every foreign SC2 events unless they change their attitude.
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What, did anyone expected KeSpa to not have some crap to fall on as a defence?
I hope ESL stands and the OLS goes without ESL players. KeSpa should not try to do the shit, and be let with just an appology. without loosing just about anything.
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