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KeSPA Agrees to Participate in GSL Season 5 - Page 15

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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 24 2012 16:51 GMT
#281
On August 25 2012 01:49 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 01:45 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 25 2012 01:44 pms wrote:
On August 25 2012 01:36 Lordanubis wrote:
The ESF can't back down here. They absolutely need to, as many others have said, say "Ok, then we're boycotting this OSL but we'll join in next time". If they don't, this whole mess will happen again and KeSPA will have the time they need to ensure they have additional leverage when this DOES happen again.

If they re-commit to the OSL without getting participation in GSL Season 4 as a return, there's a huge problem here.


Agreed. Hopefully ESF will follow.


They won't. ESF is a lot less unified than KeSPA is, and I think this move from KeSPA throws just enough doubt into the minds of the player collective that it will keep them from a firm decision like that.

KeSPA isn't unified, they just rule with an iron fist. Plenty of players are discontent with this decision, they just can't disobey or they will get the smack down laid upon them.

ESF is doing this of their own free will and for self preservation. They likely will not cave.


Really? How do you know that?
Что?
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
August 24 2012 16:52 GMT
#282
I don´t believe them at all. I wouldn´t be suprised at all if the Kespa players will miss the Code A season 5 qualifiers because they had a planned field trip on that day or something.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 24 2012 16:55 GMT
#283
On August 25 2012 01:22 ShadeR wrote:
Ernie: Yo Bert I've been real busy lately i can't make it to your party.

Bert: What the fuck Ernie i thought you were attending. I ain't ever going to your parties ever again.

Ernie: Bert! I'll be at your next one i swear!

Bert: __________________________________(fill in the blanks)


Thanks for the good laugh.
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
August 24 2012 16:55 GMT
#284
On August 25 2012 01:51 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 01:49 Dosey wrote:
On August 25 2012 01:45 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 25 2012 01:44 pms wrote:
On August 25 2012 01:36 Lordanubis wrote:
The ESF can't back down here. They absolutely need to, as many others have said, say "Ok, then we're boycotting this OSL but we'll join in next time". If they don't, this whole mess will happen again and KeSPA will have the time they need to ensure they have additional leverage when this DOES happen again.

If they re-commit to the OSL without getting participation in GSL Season 4 as a return, there's a huge problem here.


Agreed. Hopefully ESF will follow.


They won't. ESF is a lot less unified than KeSPA is, and I think this move from KeSPA throws just enough doubt into the minds of the player collective that it will keep them from a firm decision like that.

KeSPA isn't unified, they just rule with an iron fist. Plenty of players are discontent with this decision, they just can't disobey or they will get the smack down laid upon them.

ESF is doing this of their own free will and for self preservation. They likely will not cave.


Really? How do you know that?


Because ESF doesn't have control over their players the same way Kespa does. It would be a lot easier for the pfederation players to ignore ESF and play in OSL, than it would be for Kespa players to ignore Kespa and play in GSL. The ESF also must understand the idea of self-preservation, which is why they requested this decision.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 24 2012 16:55 GMT
#285
On August 25 2012 01:52 Hakanfrog wrote:
I don´t believe them at all. I wouldn´t be suprised at all if the Kespa players will miss the Code A season 5 qualifiers because they had a planned field trip on that day or something.


Or maybe they just all lose and crash out of the league? Could be very possible.
Что?
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
August 24 2012 16:56 GMT
#286
Man they made that statement pretty fucking quick, i guess losing half their OSL players is enough of a shock
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
August 24 2012 16:58 GMT
#287
lol that was quick...
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 16:59:32
August 24 2012 16:59 GMT
#288
seems like a ploy to get ESF players to join OSL now, so they get those players to join and then come up with some excuse to not goto future GSLs.
aaycumi
Profile Joined March 2011
England265 Posts
August 24 2012 17:00 GMT
#289
That's cool, but a bit delayed. So, GSL back in the OSL?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 24 2012 17:01 GMT
#290
On August 25 2012 02:00 aaycumi wrote:
That's cool, but a bit delayed. So, GSL back in the OSL?


As long as there is no announcement of them discontinuing the boycott, no.
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 17:01:52
August 24 2012 17:01 GMT
#291
hahaha crazy morning. i love it.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 17:02:50
August 24 2012 17:02 GMT
#292
On August 24 2012 22:14 HolydaKing wrote:
Great, and before Season 5 they'll say: No, we have that giant Kespa project and have no time for Season 5.


This.

Nothing got solved, they got a free passup on GSL4 Kespa wins.

You can only play fire with fire, tell OSL you will be there next season.
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
August 24 2012 17:03 GMT
#293
On August 25 2012 01:33 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 01:22 ShadeR wrote:
Ernie: Yo Bert I've been real busy lately i can't make it to your party.

Bert: What the fuck Ernie i thought you were attending. I ain't ever going to your parties ever again.

Ernie: Bert! I'll be at your next one i swear!

Bert: __________________________________(fill in the blanks)


Ernie, your dick much bigger and girlfriend much hotter, I'm sorry pal, I overreacted.


unfortunately i don't see this being the response.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
August 24 2012 17:07 GMT
#294
that's exactly how the ESF should respond actually.

"well attend gsl5"

"okay, we'll attend osl next season too. thanks, sorry but our schedule is ...very tight, we have foreign tournaments where... you know... we actually have to fly for 10+ hours but we make due, i'm sure you'll find a way to drive 1 hour to the gom qualifiers in your busy schedules"

I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
August 24 2012 17:09 GMT
#295
they will screw GSL over next season, it's almost obvious. you don't deal with sharks like they're your friends.
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
August 24 2012 17:09 GMT
#296
one of the first times in korea where the sc2 fanboys unite with bw fanboys to talk shit about kespa
자연속에 내가 있다! 운!지!
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
August 24 2012 17:09 GMT
#297
Sorry to say all that korean drama stuff reminded me of a good old #WWE storyline.
All we need is Sundance coming out today.. revealing he is Vince McMahons lost son and OSL and GSL would be 2 different brands of MLG now.

Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 17:11:24
August 24 2012 17:10 GMT
#298
On August 25 2012 02:09 stew_ wrote:
one of the first times in korea where the sc2 fanboys unite with bw fanboys to talk shit about kespa

You obviously haven't peeked at the other thread with tons of KeSPA fanboys bashing GOM and Blizzard.

Ah nvm, you said "in Korea"
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 24 2012 17:10 GMT
#299
This is hilarious. Sad at the same time that any of this nonsense was necessary in the first place.
Ripeace
Profile Joined January 2012
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 17:15:59
August 24 2012 17:15 GMT
#300
"Season 3 fuck off, maybe season 4.." *later* "Season 4 fuck off, but season 5, I promise.."
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